I think he can only truly evaluate how he gets into these bizarre situations with women if he can see himself from another man's eyes.

Why would he have a gay relationship if he isn't gay? I'm not sure I understand your logic

Wishful thinking on your part maybe?

Well, from what we got tonight... it sounded like he has experimented with another member of Blue (the same member he lives with at the moment! - or did a few weeks ago when they were on Through The Keyhole!).

What I'm trying to say is that Lee needs to know what it's like to be in a relationship with a man, and objectified and dominated by him. See how he likes it!

He has previously admitted to sharing girls with Duncan when Blue were at their height. From the way he spoke about it in the HL show I think he was just fudging things to make himself sound a bit more interesting.

Goodness knows what he needs but a big dose of man the f up and stop being a twit would help him, he's an idiot.

Err, that's kind of creepy, but ok

It would make him feel uncomfortable and then he'd finally have a clue about what he does to these women.

Woah there. I don't see how being in a relationship with another man would teach him about how the girls he messes around feel?

I'm failing to see the link or logic myself, brb

Because I have a theory about Lee. When he kisses or makes love to a woman, he gets off on the image of himself, as opposed to the woman. He has some kind of autoeroticism complex. If he saw himself with a man, he would finally have a different self-image, being a heterosexual and all, and then maybe he would have a breakthrough about the way these women feel.

He'd probably be more uncomfortable at the fact that he was doing a dude when he isn't even gay... just a thought

I have to say, I'm still failing to see the connection! And if Lee is to be believed, it sounds like he's already been with another man.

Lee just needs to accept that he acted like an idiot, and it is time to stop. apologise to Casey - again, and stay at arms length from the girls in the house, spend more time with Olly, Jim and Lionel and keep his head down for the rest of his time in the house.

I think maybe someone should try sitting him down and talking to him about it first, rather than forcing a heterosexual man to have a gay sexual relationship...

I think he needs it.

Well that makes it alright then

Be sure to let him know and get his view on it first, before you facilitate anything, won't you?

So in other words, you fancy Lee...



Pop psychology, but I think it works

I think you've discovered the root of all this

Ok this wins my personal 'weird thread of the day' award.

OP you're kidding me right? Would you say a gay man who was an arse to his boyfriends should perhaps go with a girl to sort out any issues he had?

If not, why not.

No. A gay man should go with a straight man to sort out those issues.

I'm with you. This is bizarre, and getting more so with every comment from the OP.

Miss Libertine, assuming you like the penis... have you ever had an experience with a woman, that threw into question your own self-image?

Ah, I've come across this attitude before in gay clubs

It's like a small minority of gay men can't accept that some men are straight and they don't need to be in a gay relationship, they're straight

You need to perhaps try and see something from someone else's side. I know this thread might mostly be in jest (at least, I hope it is), but since it's so similar to the type of thing I've come across, I thought it was worth mentioning.

If you can't see that, you are really no better than the straight men who think a gay man can be turned straight. You're pretty much exactly like them.

And while we're on the subject, not all men objectify women, just so you know. I find this attitude of yours pretty sexist and generalist. I don't objectify my girlfriend at all, and I don't dominate her either (unless she wants me to)