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What exactly has Lee done wrong??
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Icabod Crane
09-01-2014
Lee had a snog and fumble with casey, then a snog and fumble with Jasmine. Unless this is the 1930's, that behaviour is not a contract of commitment, exclusivity or marriage. Casey, ffs, if you get in bed with someone you dont know, hrs after meeting, live on tv and perform a sex act on him, DON'T expect him to respect you!!! She looks like she has been round the block a fair few times, it can't come as a surprise that men sometimes say things in bed that they don't actually mean!! I feel so sorry for lee, hes acting like any lad in the country would, what has he done wrong??
xtramo
09-01-2014
I sort of concur, I mean you could argue that he has been a bit insensitive but not the overblown drama that it has become in the mind of Casey.
Pitman
09-01-2014
OP, you sound like Lee's ideal woman
JVS
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Icabod Crane:
“Lee had a snog and fumble with casey, then a snog and fumble with Jasmine. Unless this is the 1930's, that behaviour is not a contract of commitment, exclusivity or marriage. Casey, ffs, if you get in bed with someone you dont know, hrs after meeting, live on tv and perform a sex act on him, DON'T expect him to respect you!!! She looks like she has been round the block a fair few times, it can't come as a surprise that men sometimes say things in bed that they don't actually mean!! I feel so sorry for lee, hes acting like any lad in the country would, what has he done wrong??”

Are you trolling???
Icabod Crane
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by xtramo:
“I sort of concur, I mean you could argue that he has been a bit insensitive but not the overblown drama that it has become in the mind of Casey.”

They need to get the psych in to see her, 72hrs "relationship" and shes screaming and crying like a fish wife? Shes going to dine out on this til the final
shelleyj89
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by JVS:
“Are you trolling???”

I was going to post a serious reply to the OP, then thought better of it.
Icabod Crane
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by JVS:
“Are you trolling???”

Absolutely not, no1 can actually say what he has done wrong? Nothing. Its crazy
abs2512
09-01-2014
I don't feel sorry for any of them in this 'triangle'. After three days Casey got her knickers down (ok, there is no real evidence, but I just don't understand why she would be so upset if it was just a snog under the covers) and Jasmine has done the same albeit after 5 days.

Do none of them have any self control or self esteem. IMO Lee has brought this on himself and I have no sympathy for him or the 'ladies' in question. They are all just as bad as each other.
Skepticism
09-01-2014
He's done it to deceive both jasmine and Casey.

He's done it with no emotion. The way he acts now he looks like a rabbit caught in the headlights. He knows what he's done and knows that he's effectively blown it with the public.

What woman would trust him following this?

You don"t go on tv, get off with someone just because they were chained to you (that's his excuse). Lionel and Ollie didn't get it on.
eyespy
09-01-2014
He told Casey there was more to it, which makes him look like a liar, also he obviously tried to "get it in" in bed with Casey then next day was all over Jasmine, he's lucky he didn't succeed.
Icabod Crane
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by shelleyj89:
“ I was going to post a serious reply to the OP, then thought better of it.”

Please post a serious reply, what has he actually done wrong to warrant the bile on last nights bbbots? And on here? When did he make any promises, or commit? When did a snog and fumble become engagement, and why does she demand respect now when she has behaved like that on tv? Im not saying its wrong or right but you cant have it both ways
onfencewithrach
09-01-2014
Not evolving from troglodyte.
Will_Loz
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by eyespy:
“He told Casey there was more to it, which makes him look like a liar, also he obviously tried to "get it in" in bed with Casey then next day was all over Jasmine, he's lucky he didn't succeed. ”

He never said there was more to it. It's all in her thick head. He just said they would do stuff on the outside. No different to what every housemate says. She is a bunny boiler. Imagine dating a psycho like that!
Deb Arkle
09-01-2014
He's not as demonic as he's being made out - however, he did say to Casey that he wanted to go on holiday with her after the series, and that re them having a relationship "we'll see, outside the house". Also, didn't they disappear into the loos together a few days ago? I definitely had the impression they had shagged (may be mistaken, of course). It certainly looked like she gave him some sort of 'relief' under the covers, too....
Icabod Crane
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by eyespy:
“He told Casey there was more to it, which makes him look like a liar, also he obviously tried to "get it in" in bed with Casey then next day was all over Jasmine, he's lucky he didn't succeed. ”

When did he say there was more to it? And if he did say that, a woman her age, a page 3 girl, ought to grow up and know that men say things they dont mean in bed occasionally! After 3 glorious long days, would it not be more dignified to say "oh, I see his game, I wont bother with him" shes acting like they have been married 11 years with 4 kids
eyespy
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Will_Loz:
“He never said there was more to it. It's all in her thick head. He just said they would do stuff on the outside. No different to what every housemate says. She is a bunny boiler. Imagine dating a psycho like that! ”

she said let's just be friend he said there's more to it, this isn't civilian BB you can easily watch it back two days and see the quotes.
Cranberryapple
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Icabod Crane:
“Lee had a snog and fumble with casey, then a snog and fumble with Jasmine. Unless this is the 1930's, that behaviour is not a contract of commitment, exclusivity or marriage. Casey, ffs, if you get in bed with someone you dont know, hrs after meeting, live on tv and perform a sex act on him, DON'T expect him to respect you!!! She looks like she has been round the block a fair few times, it can't come as a surprise that men sometimes say things in bed that they don't actually mean!! I feel so sorry for lee, hes acting like any lad in the country would, what has he done wrong??”

Eh!!

And why shouldn't he respect her?

She's not there just for his pleasure you know.
Icabod Crane
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Deb Arkle:
“He's not as demonic as he's being made out - however, he did say to Casey that he wanted to go on holiday with her after the series, and that re them having a relationship "we'll see, outside the house". Also, didn't they disappear into the loos together a few days ago? I definitely had the impression they had shagged (may be mistaken, of course). It certainly looked like she gave him some sort of 'relief' under the covers, too....”

But seriously, if the above did happen, does that make them boyfriend/girlfriend? If you put ou, live on tv, with a virtual stranger, dont be coming over all virtuous and delicate Casey....
goroos1994
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Icabod Crane:
“Please post a serious reply, what has he actually done wrong to warrant the bile on last nights bbbots? And on here? When did he make any promises, or commit? When did a snog and fumble become engagement, and why does she demand respect now when she has behaved like that on tv? Im not saying its wrong or right but you cant have it both ways”

You're kidding? If Casey has behaved like the way she is believed to have with one guy, but Lee has behaved like that with two women... I don't think you can say he deserves respect and she doesn't. What you seem to be implying is that because he is a male he can get away with such behaviour. To me this thread reeks of double standards. A
shelleyj89
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Icabod Crane:
“Please post a serious reply, what has he actually done wrong to warrant the bile on last nights bbbots? And on here? When did he make any promises, or commit? When did a snog and fumble become engagement, and why does she demand respect now when she has behaved like that on tv? Im not saying its wrong or right but you cant have it both ways”

I didn't watch BBOTS, so I don't know what was said.

What he had told Casey, didn't match up with his actions with Jasmine. And what he told Jasmine, didn't match up with what he had told Casey. He flat out lied to her when he said nothing had happened between him and Jasmine. As Casey said herself, it's not necessarily what he did or that she wanted to be with him, it's the fact that he has lied to her and made her look like an idiot. Even now he has been caught out, he's still acting innocent.
Deb Arkle
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Icabod Crane:
“But seriously, if the above did happen, does that make them boyfriend/girlfriend? If you put ou, live on tv, with a virtual stranger, dont be coming over all virtuous and delicate Casey....”

I don't see her as trying to look virtuous - I think she's just annoyed at the 'splattergun approach' he employs with his knob.
pac_girl
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Icabod Crane:
“But seriously, if the above did happen, does that make them boyfriend/girlfriend? If you put ou, live on tv, with a virtual stranger, dont be coming over all virtuous and delicate Casey....”

you need to watch the part where he was waffling on to Casey about how he felt about her and his feelings for her and how he didn't expect to meet anyone etc just before he got off with her in bed. He made out he really wanted to be with her, she later gave him an out, but he said he wanted to be with her and then got off with Jasmine hours later.
Icabod Crane
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Cranberryapple:
“Eh!!

And why shouldn't he respect her? She's not there just for his pleasure you know.”

Why should he respect her? Im not saying that malarky is wrong, consenting adults can do what they like, but she knows, clearly, hes the type to jump into bed at the drop of a hat, as is she, why all the shock, drama, offense, wronged woman act?? You cant expect respect if you dont respect yourself
SnowStorm86
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Icabod Crane:
“When did he say there was more to it? And if he did say that, a woman her age, a page 3 girl, ought to grow up and know that men say things they dont mean in bed occasionally! After 3 glorious long days, would it not be more dignified to say "oh, I see his game, I wont bother with him" shes acting like they have been married 11 years with 4 kids”

So you concede that he is playing a game, and thus has done something wrong.
goroos1994
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Icabod Crane:
“Why should he respect her? Im not saying that malarky is wrong, consenting adults can do what they like, but she knows, clearly, hes the type to jump into bed at the drop of a hat, as is she, why all the shock, drama, offense, wronged woman act?? You cant expect respect if you dont respect yourself”

Why are you saying Casey doesn't respect herself when clearly Lee doesn't either?!? I don't get why you are omitting his role in all this.
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