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Old 09-01-2014, 11:00
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When did he say there was more to it? And if he did say that, a woman her age, a page 3 girl, ought to grow up and know that men say things they dont mean in bed occasionally! After 3 glorious long days, would it not be more dignified to say "oh, I see his game, I wont bother with him" shes acting like they have been married 11 years with 4 kids
And have you seen the footage of him in the Diary Room bubbling about his feelings for Jasmine?......After only 2 escapades in the toilet!!
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:00
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you need to watch the part where he was waffling on to Casey about how he felt about her and his feelings for her and how he didn't expect to meet anyone etc just before he got off with her in bed. He made out he really wanted to be with her, she later gave him an out, but he said he wanted to be with her and then got off with Jasmine hours later.
If she was 15, yeah, id expect her to fall for that, but really....is she that naive? I didnt see him say that, and ive watched every episode. She has no dignity, why not accept he is not her future husband and back off gracefully?
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:01
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Why should he respect her? Im not saying that malarky is wrong, consenting adults can do what they like, but she knows, clearly, hes the type to jump into bed at the drop of a hat, as is she, why all the shock, drama, offense, wronged woman act?? You cant expect respect if you dont respect yourself
just go back watch the show mate. Newspaper snippets aren't doing t for you, they were handcuffed at the start so naturally shared a bed, she didn't ask him to try and put his penis in her.
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:01
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Are you trolling???
Has to be. Snow day perhaps?
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:02
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And have you seen the footage of him in the Diary Room bubbling about his feelings for Jasmine?......After only 2 escapades in the toilet!!
Yeah, jasmine has done to him what he did to casey, what millons of people do every weekend!! To be fair, Jasmine is a professional seducer, isnt that how she became famous?
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:03
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I get the impression that were he to give her more attention she would be in his arms in no time at all.
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:03
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From the HL it showed that he was well into Casey. Asking her that even when they're unchained "we can still sleep in the same bed, right?" Ok that doesn't spell love, but it would certainly make you think that that person likes you enough to want to sleep (as in actually sleep, not sex) with you even if they don't have to.

Along with him discussing holidays and relationships with her, 3 days or not 3 days, I think she was well within her right to think that he genuinely liked her.

Everybody know Z-list thick-as-shit "celebs" move faster than the speed of light in relationships. They're not like us normal people. She obviously did think that this was the beginnings of a fully fledged relationship, as sad and pathetic as it is.

Lee's an absolute knob, as is Casey, but I defo have more sympathy for her as he led her on.

Edit: AND! Major hit to the confidence to be shown interest, even if it's based around sex, one day only to be dropped like a cold bag of sick for another girl!!
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:03
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just go back watch the show mate. Newspaper snippets aren't doing t for you, they were handcuffed at the start so naturally shared a bed, she didn't ask him to try and put his penis in her.
She didnt bloody stop him either
And, mate, I dont read the papers...
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:04
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Yeah, jasmine has done to him what he did to casey, what millons of people do every weekend!! To be fair, Jasmine is a professional seducer, isnt that how she became famous?
I thought about the weekend as well !
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:06
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Yeah, jasmine has done to him what he did to casey, what millons of people do every weekend!! To be fair, Jasmine is a professional seducer, isnt that how she became famous?
So if you can't beat them join them, thousands of crimes are committed everyday why do we just commit crimes to, so it's o.k. to pretend to like someone for sex in your view.
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:06
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Yeah, jasmine has done to him what he did to casey, what millons of people do every weekend!! To be fair, Jasmine is a professional seducer, isnt that how she became famous?
I'm not a fan of Jasmine, but what he told her about what happened with/what he said to Casey was not what actually happened/what he actually said. He has played them both. From what Jasmine was saying to Sam right after Lee and Casey had been "evicted," it would seem she knows that now too.
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:07
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From the HL it showed that he was well into Casey. Asking her that even when they're unchained "we can still sleep in the same bed, right?" Ok that doesn't spell love, but it would certainly make you think that that person likes you enough to want to sleep (as in actually sleep, not sex) with you even if they don't have to.

Along with him discussing holidays and relationships with her, 3 days or not 3 days, I think she was well within her right to think that he genuinely liked her.

Everybody know Z-list thick-as-shit "celebs" move faster than the speed of light in relationships. They're not like us normal people. She obviously did think that this was the beginnings of a fully fledged relationship, as sad and pathetic as it is.

Lee's an absolute knob, as is Casey, but I defo have more sympathy for her as he led her on.
Great post, fair do's. Personally, if that were the case, I would have showed a bit of dignity and moved on. Shes gonna ride this wronged woman role now, what a load of crap...I dont think lee is a knob, hes doing what a lot of people is age do..
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:07
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Yeah, jasmine has done to him what he did to casey, what millons of people do every weekend!! To be fair, Jasmine is a professional seducer, isnt that how she became famous?
Well if you think Casey is being all dramatic and acting wronged, isn't Lee doing the same?

Jeez, he told BB he couldn't give a fcuk what anybody thought as he 'liked her'! Can't say I have seen Casey behave in this way.
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:08
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She didnt bloody stop him either
And, mate, I dont read the papers...
I think she did stop him and told him to go to the toilet, there's undeniable evidence for that mate.
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:11
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So if you can't beat them join them, thousands of crimes are committed everyday why do we just commit crimes to, so it's o.k. to pretend to like someone for sex in your view.
Are you SERIOUS??!!! Its a crime??? Good lord how old are you?? Have you ever heard of the concept of "talking someone into bed"?? only a complete idiot would fall for it, and I doubt Casey is stupid. She showed loose morals, and now feels ashamed probably, so shes turning it on Lee
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:12
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Say what you want, chatting intimately, flirting regularly and close physical contact like cuddling in bed is going to draw someone in and you've already developed a bond at that point, albeit a small bond.

It's all about respect and concern for someone else's feelings. Lee has hurt her feelings and humiliated here. You don't need to be in a serious relationship to hurt someone's feelings.

She'll get over it soon but it's still a pretty bad way to treat someone.
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:12
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I think she did stop him and told him to go to the toilet, there's undeniable evidence for that mate.
Oh, right, classy lady....
So whats she complaining about then, if they havent done the deed, whats her problem?
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:13
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Go back and watch the footage.

He told Casey that he liked her, wanted to see her on the outside, wanted to go on holiday with her - all while he was gropping and kissing her. Did he claim he wanted to marry her..? No but did give her the impression that he liked her more than a friend wanted to see how things progress.

Then the next day, he's giving her mixed signals and giving this whole speil about the whole house talking about him and Yasmin (except no one was). When Casey asked him point blank to be honest with her, he wasn't. He was being indesisive, sending all the mixed signals and messed with her head yet again.

He also yet again kissed her the next day and gropped her in the kitchen. This was after that conversation.

Then he flirts with Yasmin right in front of her.

Tell me which woman wouldn't feel like a mug? Humiliated? a fool? It's not like Casey ever thought he was her boyfriend but she's right. You don't kiss someone, tell them you like them, want to see them outside and then the next day openly flirt with someone else in front on you the next day.

Lee bought this all upon himself. If he had just been honest with Caasey when he had the chance, it wouldn't have escalated into the situation that it has now. Instead, he cowardly danced around the truth and it's now blown up in his face. I do think the hate he has recieved has been OTT but it's a situation he could have quite easily avoided.
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:14
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The art of seduction is based on exaggerations.
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:14
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Great post, fair do's. Personally, if that were the case, I would have showed a bit of dignity and moved on. Shes gonna ride this wronged woman role now, what a load of crap...I dont think lee is a knob, hes doing what a lot of people is age do..
he's in his 30's - not 18.
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:15
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Say what you want, chatting intimately, flirting regularly and close physical contact like cuddling in bed is going to draw someone in and you've already developed a bond at that point, albeit a small bond.

It's all about respect and concern for someone else's feelings. Lee has hurt her feelings and humiliated here. You don't need to be in a serious relationship to hurt someone's feelings.

She'll get over it soon but it's still a pretty bad way to treat someone.
Call me old fashioned, but if you dont respect yourself, how can you expect others to do if for you?? She was acting, talking and behaving sexually and explicitly, she was clearly up for whatever happened, I dont thing she is some innocent child from the sticks who has been seduced and deflowered by big bad Lee
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:16
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he's in his 30's - not 18.
Thats young to me!!
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:16
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Oh, right, classy lady....
So whats she complaining about then, if they havent done the deed, whats her problem?
Like Lee, you just don't get it. Human beings are more complexed than: X doesn't want to sleep with me so sleep with Y.
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:17
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Great post, fair do's. Personally, if that were the case, I would have showed a bit of dignity and moved on. Shes gonna ride this wronged woman role now, what a load of crap...I dont think lee is a knob, hes doing what a lot of people is age do..
Yes the ideal situation would be for Casey to take the high road and be like "Well, you win some you lose some. I guess he just likes her more. But he's got another thing coming if he thinks he can come back to me for flirting or whatnot" But she didn't because a) That's obviously not the type of person she is (I.e. She loves the drama) and b) She must know it makes for better tv to make a big ol' domestic deal out of it.

And sorry OP, I still think Lee is a knob Not specifically for just this scenario, but in general.

Also, he's a 30 year old father with 2 impressionable young daughters. Is this REALLY appropriate behaviour from him?! I'm 26 and if I saw a 30 year old recently-separated from his fiancé and mother of his children man gallivanting round the club scene hitting on and sleeping with multiple women, I would honestly think What. A. Loser.
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:19
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Call me old fashioned, but if you dont respect yourself, how can you expect others to do if for you?? She was acting, talking and behaving sexually and explicitly, she was clearly up for whatever happened, I dont thing she is some innocent child from the sticks who has been seduced and deflowered by big bad Lee
Exactly, and this is why Lee is getting the backlash he is getting. He doesn't respect himself one little bit, after all, he's had his 'shenannigans' with 2 women in the space of 3/4 days. So the 'OTT' reaction he is getting is justifiable.

Just thought I would balance it out
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