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What exactly has Lee done wrong??
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pac_girl
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Icabod Crane:
“Call me old fashioned, but if you dont respect yourself, how can you expect others to do if for you?? She was acting, talking and behaving sexually and explicitly, she was clearly up for whatever happened, I dont thing she is some innocent child from the sticks who has been seduced and deflowered by big bad Lee”

you asked what Lee has done wrong - not about Casey being wronged by him.

Basically what he did wrong, is act like a lying slapper who can't keep it in his pants showing no respect for himself by getting it on with 2 women, in the toilets on 2 days (on TV) and then acting like a whiney victim because he 'really really' likes Jasmine and can't help it - and is upset the public booed him as he's come across as a whiney, self indulgent slapper. Boohoo.

Thats why
SnowStorm86
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Icabod Crane:
“Oh, right, classy lady....”

Defending him by attempting to discredit her tells me he is indefensible.

Quote:
“So whats she complaining about then, if they havent done the deed, whats her problem?”

They did something though. She tried to mention it during their chat on the sofas but Lee kept talking over her and saying she's embarrassing him.
Heavenly
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by SnowStorm86:
“Defending him by attempting to discredit her tells me he is indefensible.



They did something though. She tried to mention it during their chat on the sofas but Lee kept talking over her and saying she's embarrassing him.”

Yes, they definitely did something a lot more than kissing, she eluded to it more than once and he kept saying under his breath 'ok fair enough'.
Flower Pot
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Will_Loz:
“He never said there was more to it. It's all in her thick head. He just said they would do stuff on the outside. No different to what every housemate says. She is a bunny boiler. Imagine dating a psycho like that! ”

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...ine-Waltz.html

Quote:
“The All Rise singer then had a change of heart, after calling it all off with Casey just an hour before, and asked her for another chance.
He said: 'I do want to go for it with you. It’s more than that [just a house relationship] and you know it is.'”

just because you may not have seen him saying things to her, doesnt mean it didnt happen
Cranberryapple
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by pac_girl:
“you asked what Lee has done wrong - not about Casey being wronged by him.

Basically what he did wrong, is act like a lying slapper who can't keep it in his pants showing no respect for himself by getting it on with 2 women, in the toilets on 2 days (on TV) and then acting like a whiney victim because he 'really really' likes Jasmine and can't help it - and is upset the public booed him as he's come across as a whiney, self indulgent slapper. Boohoo.

Thats why ”

Give that Girl a round of applause
xtramo
09-01-2014
Casey is by no means a victim and that is what it seems like everyone who is attacking Lee seems to be suggesting.

This kind of thing happens regularly - there are plenty of girls and guys who will get off with multiple people on a night out all under one roof.

The fact that this has become so much of an issue for Casey after what two or three days? astounds me
Icabod Crane
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by goroos1994:
“You're kidding? If Casey has behaved like the way she is believed to have with one guy, but Lee has behaved like that with two women... I don't think you can say he deserves respect and she doesn't. What you seem to be implying is that because he is a male he can get away with such behaviour. To me this thread reeks of double standards. A”

Nobody said lee deserves respect.
No double standards
The difference is, lee isnt running round wailing, slagging casey or jasmine off, hes not acting like he has been wronged?!! Ist not a male female thing at all. Men and women do stuff, its a fact. Its not the victorian times
Icabod Crane
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by xtramo:
“Casey is by no means a victim and that is what it seems like everyone who is attacking Lee seems to be suggesting.

This kind of thing happens regularly - there are plenty of girls and guys who will get off with multiple people on a night out all under one roof.

The fact that this has become so much of an issue for Casey after what two or three days? astounds me ”

Thank you, I agree. Little miss innocent she aint. Put the tears away Casey....jeez
SnowStorm86
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by xtramo:
“Casey is by no means a victim and that is what it seems like everyone who is attacking Lee seems to be suggesting.

This kind of thing happens regularly - there are plenty of girls and guys who will get off with multiple people on a night out all under one roof.

The fact that this has become so much of an issue for Casey after what two or three days? astounds me ”

Yes I think Luisa mentioned attending those types of parties.
Flower Pot
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Icabod Crane:
“Why should he respect her? Im not saying that malarky is wrong, consenting adults can do what they like, but she knows, clearly, hes the type to jump into bed at the drop of a hat, as is she, why all the shock, drama, offense, wronged woman act?? You cant expect respect if you dont respect yourself”

her point is, he backed off with her because he made a big deal of not wanting be involved in a showmance & be seen as a player then turned around & started a showmance with jasmine! o.O
Icabod Crane
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Flower Pot:
“http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...ine-Waltz.html

just because you may not have seen him saying things to her, doesnt mean it didnt happen”

Ohhh the daily mail?? Must be true then
xtramo
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by SnowStorm86:
“Yes I think Luisa mentioned attending those types of parties.”

No I'm just referring to a night out at any club throughout the UK.

Luisa's parties are different and dare I say it - a lot more fun!
Joey_J
09-01-2014
Regardless to whats happened

Lee is just a total cringe worthy D**K anyway
Icabod Crane
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by pac_girl:
“you asked what Lee has done wrong - not about Casey being wronged by him.

Basically what he did wrong, is act like a lying slapper who can't keep it in his pants showing no respect for himself by getting it on with 2 women, in the toilets on 2 days (on TV) and then acting like a whiney victim because he 'really really' likes Jasmine and can't help it - and is upset the public booed him as he's come across as a whiney, self indulgent slapper. Boohoo.

Thats why ”

Is this so wrong? In 2014? Between single adults? Snogging 2 women on separate days!!!!!!! Lying?!!!!!! OMG *faints*
chuck_wippl
09-01-2014
If we all take a step back, isn't this whole thing actually quite hilarious?

Like, I'm in Casey's corner re. Lee vs. Casey, but I can still see that she'll get over it. Of course she'll get over it as really, there's not much to get over. Like I said in a previous post, at first glance, 3 intensive days of someone acting as if they genuinely liked you and wanted to make a go of it with you, only for them to drop you for another girl is of course really upsetting. But it's still only 3 days. In the BB house with cameras watching you. It's not real life!!

She'll feel like a prize fool when she realises what a big deal she's made of it all. And what a big deal she made of such a prat like Lee! But then again, she could just be doing this all for the cameras and to entertain us. Who knows?
B L Zeebub
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Icabod Crane:
“Great post, fair do's. Personally, if that were the case, I would have showed a bit of dignity and moved on. Shes gonna ride this wronged woman role now, what a load of crap...I dont think lee is a knob, hes doing what a lot of people is age do..”

You do know that he is a thirty year old, don't you?
Icabod Crane
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by abs2512:
“I don't feel sorry for any of them in this 'triangle'. After three days Casey got her knickers down (ok, there is no real evidence, but I just don't understand why she would be so upset if it was just a snog under the covers) and Jasmine has done the same albeit after 5 days.

Do none of them have any self control or self esteem. IMO Lee has brought this on himself and I have no sympathy for him or the 'ladies' in question. They are all just as bad as each other.”

Exactly, I was beginning to think I was alone in this opinion
chuck_wippl
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by B L Zeebub:
“You do know that he is a thirty year old, don't you?”

He/she (the OP) doesn't consider that old enough to excuse one behaving in such a way. I do. More so because he's got 2 impressionable young girls...and an ex fiancé.
Icabod Crane
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by chuck_wippl:
“Yes the ideal situation would be for Casey to take the high road and be like "Well, you win some you lose some. I guess he just likes her more. But he's got another thing coming if he thinks he can come back to me for flirting or whatnot" But she didn't because a) That's obviously not the type of person she is (I.e. She loves the drama) and b) She must know it makes for better tv to make a big ol' domestic deal out of it.

And sorry OP, I still think Lee is a knob Not specifically for just this scenario, but in general.

Also, he's a 30 year old father with 2 impressionable young daughters. Is this REALLY appropriate behaviour from him?! I'm 26 and if I saw a 30 year old recently-separated from his fiancé and mother of his children man gallivanting round the club scene hitting on and sleeping with multiple women, I would honestly think What. A. Loser.”

thats exactly what casey shoud have done/said, and have nothing to do with him. I wouldnt be surprised if she tries it on in the bung hole, he will oblige, then the drama will unfold once again...
Flower Pot
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Icabod Crane:
“Ohhh the daily mail?? Must be true then”

its quoted from the show that was aired and seen by many on here so i guess it is
Icabod Crane
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by chuck_wippl:
“He (the OP) doesn't consider that old enough to excuse one behaving in such a way. I do. More so because he's got 2 impressionable young girls...and an ex fiancé.”

Im a she, not a he, older than lee, and in my group of 40 somethings, its not unknown for men and women to have a flirt or sexual encounter. Its not my thing, but I know its normal for millions of people. It really is not a big deal, its not an offense, and Lee is being badly treated imo
chuck_wippl
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Icabod Crane:
“thats exactly what casey shoud have done/said, and have nothing to do with him. I wouldnt be surprised if she tries it on in the bung hole, he will oblige, then the drama will unfold once again...”

Oh God if she does....then she's a bigger fool than I thought, haha!!

It's so empowering for anyone to take the high road like that though. Why would you not take advantage of it! It's basically just giving someone the ol' "Talk to the hand because the face don't wanna know!"

Do...do people still say that?
xtramo
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by chuck_wippl:
“She'll feel like a prize fool when she realises what a big deal she's made of it all. And what a big deal she made of such a prat like Lee! But then again, she could just be doing this all for the cameras and to entertain us. Who knows?”

See, given she is a glamour model and not some shy innocent vulnerable virgin maiden, I'd bet on the latter - it's bloody capitalism is what it is!!
pac_girl
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Icabod Crane:
“Is this so wrong? In 2014? Between single adults? Snogging 2 women on separate days!!!!!!! Lying?!!!!!! OMG *faints*”

well it is wrong. If he was more of a man and said to Casey - 'hey we are chained together, I fancy you, you fancy me, do you fancy a bit, no strings' - thats okay. But he has to lie and make out he really likes them and has feelings to get them into bed. Women don't need to be lied to, they might fancy a bit of no strings. Its the 21st century, women don't need a promise of love or romance these days!!

I'm not on anyones side... its not about Lee v Casey v Jasmine. What self respecting person gets in on with different people in the toilet on TV... that goes for all of them. But his lying and whining and the fact he's a 30 year old acting like an 18 year who thinks with his dick - makes him look worse in all this.
chuck_wippl
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Icabod Crane:
“Im a she, not a he, older than lee, and in my group of 40 somethings, its not unknown for men and women to have a flirt or sexual encounter. Its not my thing, but I know its normal for millions of people. It really is not a big deal, its not an offense, and Lee is being badly treated imo”

Sorry! I did quickly edit it to say "He/she" just in case!

And fair enough. I agree that yes, of course it's not uncommon for people in Lee's situation (as in age and kids) to act as he has done, but like you, it's not my thing, and I also call it as I see it, and I personally find it really sad and pathetic.
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