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What exactly has Lee done wrong??
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KatrinaK
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by pac_girl:
“well it is wrong. If he was more of a man and said to Casey - 'hey we are chained together, I fancy you, you fancy me, do you fancy a bit, no strings' - thats okay. But he has to lie and make out he really likes them and has feelings to get them into bed. Women don't need to be lied to, they might fancy a bit of no strings. Its the 21st century, women don't need a promise of love or romance these days!!
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Exactly. Nail on head.

I don't think the issue is that Lee snogged two different women on different nights. This is not peoples issue with Lee at all. Like its been said, these days it's happens and if had had JUST done that, he wouldn't be coming under so much fire.

Where Lee went wrong was give Casey the impression that what they had was more than just casual. When you tell someone you like them, want to spend time with them outside and go on holiday with them that gives that person the impression that he see's some sort of future. Before anyone has a go, I know it was only 3 days and I doubt Casey was expecting a proposal but you can't spout that crap and then snog someone else.

If Lee had just been straight with her from the begining and told her, "I want Yasmin but since we're tied up together, fancy a snog?" then Casey wouldn't have reacted the way she did.

Sorry but Lee dug his own grave here.
purplesky99
09-01-2014
I think more to the point is that all this is playing out on TV. Now wouldn't you think that people would be MORE aware of their behaviour with it being a TV programme.

And this makes me think that he perhaps went in with the idea of being a bit carefree (player if that is your choice of phrase) when it comes to flirting etc, and it has all gone a bit wrong/out of control.

He now doesn't know whether to stick or twist, and in effect the decision has been made for him - he is stuck with Casey for the foreseeable. Thereby forcing him to confront his behaviour, whether we agree with it or not...so the public chose wisely..
BellaRosa
09-01-2014
Casey is making it sound like her and Lee have been in a relationship for 3 years rather than 3 days!

Imo The luv triangle are all as bad as each other. And who says you 'Love' someone after a couple of days? Think this sums this lot up, they have no standards and do not have a clue what 'Love' is.
revolver44
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Icabod Crane:
“Lee had a snog and fumble with casey, then a snog and fumble with Jasmine. Unless this is the 1930's, that behaviour is not a contract of commitment, exclusivity or marriage. Casey, ffs, if you get in bed with someone you dont know, hrs after meeting, live on tv and perform a sex act on him, DON'T expect him to respect you!!! She looks like she has been round the block a fair few times, it can't come as a surprise that men sometimes say things in bed that they don't actually mean!! I feel so sorry for lee, hes acting like any lad in the country would, what has he done wrong??”

There was a clip shown in one of the early shows where she asked him if he wanted a serious relationship with her and he replied "yes" and started going on about the two of them flying off on holiday soon as the show ended. All this chat seemed to be coming from him, not her. Whether that was manipulated by BB I don't know but it's there to see. Suddenly in less than 24 hours he's squirming his way out of this giving the old "better to be friends" bullshine and sneaking off to the bathroom for some jiggy time with Jasmine.
Not cricket really is it? I'm not saying Casey is crushed because she was in love with the fella or anything that ridiculous, but she must have felt a complete numpty knowing this was going out on tv each night. Can't help feel sorry for her. As for him, he's not evil, he hasn't murdered anyone, he's just shown himself up to be a self-satisfied, selfish, unfeeling manchild with the self-discipline of a two dicked dog on viagra.
StephenMoore
09-01-2014
What annoys me is the fact that Casey will probably cruise to the final now, just because of this one event! Really annoying but its inevatable, I mean look how much her odds have shortened, and also currently she is 2nd on the new BBSpy poll with 16%!! I don't hate her but their are much better housemates but regardless of that Casey will get to the final on sympathy alone!
sandy50
09-01-2014
the insult to Casey was the way he dumbed down what he said and did with her , to her face and what he didn't say to Jasmine before he embarked on exactly the same behaviour with her - It's a shame she didn't react the way most woman would have reacted and as soon as he did puppy dog sorry for himself eyes and had a cry she went all sympathetic towards him, after having a bit of backbone and having a go at him for how he made a fool out of her on National TV -

He managed to turn it round to making her feel that it was her fault for being a bunny boiler and that he had every right to bed hop - and she let him turn it back on her - she's a fool for that -

and yet it still comes across that Casey would forgive Lee if he suddenly told her he'd gone off Jasmine and decided out of thin air, he wants her again, they're both immature and fickle, but Lee's just not very nice, and she is. Can't believe Casey is so naive, wonder what's happened to her with guys before now, they must have really trodden on her.

There was a clip of Lee sitting on a sofa and Casey and Jasmine were either side of him - and they both seemed to vying for his attention, it was really wierd ---- and this was after Casey had told Jasmine what Lee had got up to with her !!!

those woman allowed this idiot to use them, although I don't think Jasmine cares either way, I think Lee was just 'there' and 'fun' for her - Casey, however, got wayyyyy in over her head after two nights with Lee I'm more annoyed they paid Lee any attention at all, as he just seems so weedy.

(I bet his mates will high five him when he gets out, which is sickeningly juvenille like he is)
zx50
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by Icabod Crane:
“Lee had a snog and fumble with casey, then a snog and fumble with Jasmine. Unless this is the 1930's, that behaviour is not a contract of commitment, exclusivity or marriage. Casey, ffs, if you get in bed with someone you dont know, hrs after meeting, live on tv and perform a sex act on him, DON'T expect him to respect you!!! She looks like she has been round the block a fair few times, it can't come as a surprise that men sometimes say things in bed that they don't actually mean!! I feel so sorry for lee, hes acting like any lad in the country would, what has he done wrong??”

There's nothing wrong with heavily flirting with different lasses, but Lee didn't make it clear enough to Casey (or drop big enough hints) that he was only having fun with her. He even said that he wanted to start something with her when they were talking on the couch. Heavily flirting with different lasses is okay, just so long as the lasses are clear that there's nothing more to it. He didn't even have to boldly state anything, just drop big hints that it was only fun that they were having. It was Lee that indicated that he wanted to start something after being grilled by Casey.
Laura_Styles
09-01-2014
I agree that it's not about his actions as a 'normal lad' but about the fact that he is on TV knowing full well that everyone will see inc those in the house.
michaelkegnan
09-01-2014
Thank God Lee being in there. Good TV!
michaelkegnan
09-01-2014
Ok i will be real here. Lee is not a legend; i just say that to wind people up. He is a nice guy but has f**ked up! He made a rookie mistake and needs to apologize to Casey for it.
That being said i HATE the way people are acting like he is evil. Crazy. Relax. Great TV show this year IMO.
Kromm
09-01-2014
The worst thing he's done is not ADMITTING to being a player. Playing the coy little "I don't want to be the bad guy" angle, but doing it anyway. If you are that way, have the confidence and guts to be honest about it. Otherwise you are a toad. Snog both girls in a row, fine. But don't you dare act like the injured part. Ever.
Cornchips
09-01-2014
I think alot of people are seriously over reacting tbh. He is a total prat (this cannot be denied) but all he did was upset a girl who had designs on him after only a couple of days by leading her on a bit and then getting off with someone else. Its not a huge deal and no doubt goes on all the time.

Yes he is spoilt and selfish and narcissistic, and completely oblivious to how he may have hurt others with his actions. I think that there are more concerning things in the world to be outraged about.

I find it all quite hilarious seeing what prattish thing he might do next. He is at least keeping the show moving even if its for the wrong reasons.
Cornchips
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by michaelkegnan:
“Ok i will be real here. Lee is not a legend; i just say that to wind people up. He is a nice guy but has f**ked up! He made a rookie mistake and needs to apologize to Casey for it.
That being said i HATE the way people are acting like he is evil. Crazy. Relax. Great TV show this year IMO.”

This I agree with.
Virgil Tracy
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by xtramo:
“I sort of concur, I mean you could argue that he has been a bit insensitive but not the overblown drama that it has become in the mind of Casey.”

so why is he in the DR blubbing like a baby ?
danielleh
09-01-2014
He led Casey to believe that they would make a go of a relationship, albeit in very uncertain terms with the way he rambles when he speaks. He asked her if they would go on holiday together, which she said yes to, and said to her that they would see how it develops on the outside (when he said "YES" and kissed her, on the sofa).

I'm not a particular fan of anyone involved in this love triangle thing, but it's as clear as day that Lee is in the wrong. Jasmine herself even said to Lee that he had led Casey on.
Nosaer
09-01-2014
Lee has done nothing wrong at all, ever. It is everybody else's fault, always. I don't believe that but he does, this is how his head works, he has a very low level of awareness and that, combined with boy band fame and the girls that come with it, leaves a trail of emotional destruction behind him.
mysty211
09-01-2014
Lee was just stupid to get with Casey when all along he's liked Jasmine now Jasmine seems to be doing the same to him, karma.
quirkyquirk
09-01-2014
Originally Posted by JVS:
“Are you trolling???”

I think Lee's PR team are going into overdrive lol.
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