DS Forums

 
 

Dappy's victim blaming rationale.


Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 09-01-2014, 14:38
Nosaer
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 3,204
Last night on HL Dappy was saying to Lee 'that's what happens when you lead em on'. So he does in fact know who is to blame.
Nosaer is offline   Reply With Quote
Please sign in or register to remove this advertisement.
Old 09-01-2014, 14:39
KatrinaK
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 27,092
Lee is crying even more over Jasmine.
LOL. This. The hypocrisy is astounding.

Lee and the many FM here have berated Casey for becoming attached to him after 3 days (though this was never the real issue). Yet, Lee has whined more about his feelings for Yasmin than Casey has over him.

As for Dapey, I don't think he articulated very well what he meant.

I think ultimately he knows that Lee is responsible for the public response. It's his behaviour that's got him in a pickle. However when you have the "victim" crying about it in the DR (for good reason), it just makes him appear even worse.
KatrinaK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2014, 14:43
Heavenly
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 30,890
LOL. This. The hypocrisy is astounding.

Lee and the many FM here have berated Casey for becoming attached to him after 3 days (though this was never the real issue). Yet, Lee has whined more about his feelings for Yasmin than Casey has over him..

Exactly! Of course, 3 days sounds silly, but this is the micro-bubble that is the BB house and to be fair to Casey, it was Lee who mentioned a holiday afterwards and see how things went, so she was under the impression he wanted to see her after. And he has the cheek to wonder why she has got involved so quickly, when there is Lee, completely besotted with Jasmine.
Heavenly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2014, 14:48
bulldog rosie
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: merseyside
Posts: 1,700
LOL. This. The hypocrisy is astounding.

Lee and the many FM here have berated Casey for becoming attached to him after 3 days (though this was never the real issue). Yet, Lee has whined more about his feelings for Yasmin than Casey has over him.

As for Dapey, I don't think he articulated very well what he meant.

I think ultimately he knows that Lee is responsible for the public response. It's his behaviour that's got him in a pickle. However when you have the "victim" crying about it in the DR (for good reason), it just makes him appear even worse.
Yes they're as bad as one another.....They are both so pathetic , they're probably meant to be together!
bulldog rosie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2014, 14:55
onfencewithrach
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: On the Fence With Rachel Rice
Posts: 6,314
LOL. This. The hypocrisy is astounding.

Lee and the many FM here have berated Casey for becoming attached to him after 3 days (though this was never the real issue). Yet, Lee has whined more about his feelings for Yasmin than Casey has over him.

As for Dapey, I don't think he articulated very well what he meant.

I think ultimately he knows that Lee is responsible for the public response. It's his behaviour that's got him in a pickle. However when you have the "victim" crying about it in the DR (for good reason), it just makes him appear even worse.
If he knows it's Lee's fault then what was that whole rationalization he did, he went over the scenario with Jasmine talking about how Lee felt it was Casey crying and her broken heart that caused the crowd response, then he went on this rant about "you can't fall for someone in 72 hours in Brother Brother, broken heart, back off lady", and the whole tone of the conversation was more on Lee's side, "he, he, he, he" it was never "she" or about Casey and how she might be feeling, it was all about how Lee feels... adding in the way he imitated her crying as an over the top cartoonish context, and then he ends it by saying and "it's probably true that's what it was" that caused it, and that it's "necessarily and could be her fault".

Jasmine throwing her "people are stupid" which again is more blaming of Casey, implying that she's somehow manipulating the situation and people are stupid in falling for it, which again puts the conversation more in the positive direction and supporting of Lee and blaming of Casey.
onfencewithrach is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2014, 15:04
Neuchowski
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 15
What about the objectification and mistreatment of men?? Please try and stay in the real world ........He didn't beat her up !
i don't really want to get into a debate with some kind of mens rights activist but the events in the house are not reflecting the "objectification of men" which is why we're not discussing it. and the "beat her up" comment is just totally irrelevant, physical abuse is not the only way in which someone can be mistreated.
Neuchowski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2014, 15:08
Hoffmister
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,407
For my thinking Lee just had a one night stand with Casey, it may of ended in the bathroom but it was just that sex... but just like with PJ he couldnt run away from her fast enough, the guy being too thick too understand that in the house a one night stand wont go away. The tool then moved on to girl no2 ... and was shocked when girl no 1 got the hump ... in the real world he would just ignore her calls .. there he cant.

As for Dappy, of course he would blame any girl or anything .. thats how he rolls
Hoffmister is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2014, 15:12
bulldog rosie
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: merseyside
Posts: 1,700
For my thinking Lee just had a one night stand with Casey, it may of ended in the bathroom but it was just that sex... but just like with PJ he couldnt run away from her fast enough, the guy being too thick too understand that in the house a one night stand wont go away. The tool then moved on to girl no2 ... and was shocked when girl no 1 got the hump ... in the real world he would just ignore her calls .. there he cant.

As for Dappy, of course he would blame any girl or anything .. thats how he rolls
lee and Casey didn't have sex. She said to Sam on Tuesday's show that they kissed in the toilet, nothing more.
bulldog rosie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2014, 15:15
NatoPMT
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,946
Adding insult to injury,

"It's Casey's fault because she was hurt and cried and made him look bad"

By the stars! You couldn't make this stuff up!

Yeah, it didn't have anything to do with Lee's actions making him look bad, take the blame off of him and blame it all on Casey for not allowing Lee to be a jerk and accepting it.

And then Lee acting like he's the victim and did nothing in the bolthole. He hasn't even learned anything after all of this.

Lee, Dappy and Jasmine and whoever else in there who supports them are so unbelievably slimy, and cretinous... sleazeballs and neanderthals.
What Dappy said was 'He's pissed off with her, he feels, because she went in there and cried..."

which could mean that its wholly Lee's perspective he is relaying.....

If he knows it's Lee's fault then what was that whole rationalization he did, he went over the scenario with Jasmine talking about how Lee felt it was Casey crying and her broken heart that caused the crowd response, then he went on this rant about "you can't fall for someone in 72 hours in Brother Brother, broken heart, back off lady", and the whole tone of the conversation was more on Lee's side, "he, he, he, he" it was never "she" or about Casey and how she might be feeling, it was all about how Lee feels... adding in the way he imitated her crying as an over the top cartoonish context, and then he ends it by saying and "it's probably true that's what it was" that caused it, and that it's "necessarily and could be her fault".

Jasmine throwing her "people are stupid" which again is more blaming of Casey, implying that she's somehow manipulating the situation and people are stupid in falling for it, which again puts the conversation more in the positive direction and supporting of Lee and blaming of Casey.
but I do agree with this, and Dappy said "Lee feels thats whats turned the public against him, and its most probably true" showing that he does blame Casey directly....however, I think it was more for Jasmine's benefit, ie Dappy showing Jasmine he is on her side rather than Casey's (or Lee's for that matter.)

He then says to Jasmine her looks are causing trouble, as his little attempt to have a cheeky 'you and me' bonding thing, which he then tries to seal with physical contact that she brushes off and walks away.

He's a weasel.
NatoPMT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2014, 15:19
onfencewithrach
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: On the Fence With Rachel Rice
Posts: 6,314

but I do agree with this, and Dappy said "Lee feels thats whats turned the public against him, and its most probably true" showing that he does blame Casey directly....however, I think it was more for Jasmine's benefit, ie Dappy showing Jasmine he is on her side rather than Casey's (or Lee's for that matter.)

He then says to Jasmine her looks are causing trouble, as his little attempt to have a cheeky 'you and me' bonding thing, which he then tries to seal with physical contact that she brushes off and walks away.

He's a weasel.
and "it necessarily could be her fault"... "probably true" and "could be her fault", the focus on he, he, he... the over the top imitation of her crying, the hard stance taken on the amount of time, not disagreeing with Jasmine's "people are stupid" comment, it's all there, it all adds up.

Perhaps it could've been for Jasmine's benefit in some way but that doesn't make it a whole lot better that he would blame Casey even though he didn't believe that to get in with Jasmine.
onfencewithrach is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2014, 15:20
Hoffmister
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,407
lee and Casey didn't have sex. She said to Sam on Tuesday's show that they kissed in the toilet, nothing more.
yes you are correct, his pee pee dintnt enter her hoo hoo.. however he did get so excited he was sent to the toilet by her ...thats not just cuddling is it
Hoffmister is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2014, 15:22
NatoPMT
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,946
and "it necessarily could be her fault"... "probably true" and "could be her fault", the focus on he, he, he... the over the top imitation of her crying, the hard stance taken on the amount of time, not disagreeing with Jasmine's "people are stupid" comment, it's all there, it all adds up.

Perhaps it could've been for Jasmine's benefit in some way but that doesn't make it a whole lot better that he would blame Casey even though he didn't believe that to get in with Jasmine.
Nope, means he's a misogynist who's also prepared to do the dirty on his supposed ally
NatoPMT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2014, 15:23
bulldog rosie
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: merseyside
Posts: 1,700
i don't really want to get into a debate with some kind of mens rights activist but the events in the house are not reflecting the "objectification of men" which is why we're not discussing it. and the "beat her up" comment is just totally irrelevant, physical abuse is not the only way in which someone can be mistreated.
I hate to break into your fantasy world ...but in reality, you're the only one discussing it !
bulldog rosie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2014, 15:24
Pumping Iron
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 22,981
the objectification and mistreatment of women isn't a real issue?
She's a topless model. She's probably not that fussed about objectification. Infact she may well enjoy it.
Pumping Iron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2014, 15:35
SegaGamer
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 19,601
Great comeback, not. It's impossible to argue with you because you fail to take anyone else's opinions on board.
SegaGamer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2014, 15:36
onfencewithrach
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: On the Fence With Rachel Rice
Posts: 6,314
She's a topless model. She's probably not that fussed about objectification. Infact she may well enjoy it.
SMH.

Unbelievable, you do realize that's the kind of thing some of us are talking about. Geez.

Did they allow Lee or Dappy to get on the internet?
onfencewithrach is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2014, 15:41
bulldog rosie
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: merseyside
Posts: 1,700
SMH.

Unbelievable, you do realize that's the kind of thing some of us are talking about. Geez.

Did they allow Lee or Dappy to get on the internet?
What does SMH mean ? And why aren't you sitting on the fence ?
bulldog rosie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2014, 15:41
onfencewithrach
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: On the Fence With Rachel Rice
Posts: 6,314
What does SMH mean ? And why aren't you sitting on the fence ?
"Shaking My Head"

Usually in disbelief or disgust.

...because Rachel Rice isn't there currently.
onfencewithrach is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2014, 15:42
Pumping Iron
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 22,981
SMH.

Unbelievable, you do realize that's the kind of thing some of us are talking about. Geez.

Did they allow Lee or Dappy to get on the internet?
I don't have a clue what you're on about.
Pumping Iron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2014, 16:02
NatoPMT
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,946
I don't have a clue what you're on about.
Evidently
NatoPMT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2014, 16:15
Pumping Iron
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 22,981
Yes I must admit I am not quite up to date with internet abbreviations and slang.
Pumping Iron is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2014, 16:23
revolver44
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: In Front Of The OLED
Posts: 20,888
Looking after his homeboy innit blud!

etc etc
revolver44 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2014, 16:56
mysty211
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 4,885
I know many guys and some girls but overall guys are thinking the same thing as Dappy , because he's single and they didn't really know each other, that it takes two to tango.
Thats what I've heard.
mysty211 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2014, 21:02
wishfulthinking
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: North of Hadrian's Wall
Posts: 3,580
Adding insult to injury,

"It's Casey's fault because she was hurt and cried and made him look bad"

By the stars! You couldn't make this stuff up!

Yeah, it didn't have anything to do with Lee's actions making him look bad, take the blame off of him and blame it all on Casey for not allowing Lee to be a jerk and accepting it.

And then Lee acting like he's the victim and did nothing in the bolthole. He hasn't even learned anything after all of this.

Lee, Dappy and Jasmine and whoever else in there who supports them are so unbelievably slimy, and cretinous... sleazeballs and neanderthals.
I totally agree op, it annoyed me too.

There is no rational explanation for any blame for this whole sorry mess being put on anyone other than lee himself. That and misogyny at any rate, no matter what happens there will be some idiots always blame the woman regardless.
wishfulthinking is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply




 
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 12:46.