Last night on HL Dappy was saying to Lee 'that's what happens when you lead em on'. So he does in fact know who is to blame.
Dappy's victim blaming rationale.
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Originally Posted by aggielane:
“Lee is crying even more over Jasmine.”
“Lee is crying even more over Jasmine.”
LOL. This. The hypocrisy is astounding.
Lee and the many FM here have berated Casey for becoming attached to him after 3 days (though this was never the real issue). Yet, Lee has whined more about his feelings for Yasmin than Casey has over him.
As for Dapey, I don't think he articulated very well what he meant.
I think ultimately he knows that Lee is responsible for the public response. It's his behaviour that's got him in a pickle. However when you have the "victim" crying about it in the DR (for good reason), it just makes him appear even worse.
Originally Posted by KatrinaK:
“LOL. This. The hypocrisy is astounding.
Lee and the many FM here have berated Casey for becoming attached to him after 3 days (though this was never the real issue). Yet, Lee has whined more about his feelings for Yasmin than Casey has over him..”
“LOL. This. The hypocrisy is astounding.
Lee and the many FM here have berated Casey for becoming attached to him after 3 days (though this was never the real issue). Yet, Lee has whined more about his feelings for Yasmin than Casey has over him..”
Exactly! Of course, 3 days sounds silly, but this is the micro-bubble that is the BB house and to be fair to Casey, it was Lee who mentioned a holiday afterwards and see how things went, so she was under the impression he wanted to see her after. And he has the cheek to wonder why she has got involved so quickly, when there is Lee, completely besotted with Jasmine.
Originally Posted by KatrinaK:
“LOL. This. The hypocrisy is astounding.
Lee and the many FM here have berated Casey for becoming attached to him after 3 days (though this was never the real issue). Yet, Lee has whined more about his feelings for Yasmin than Casey has over him.
As for Dapey, I don't think he articulated very well what he meant.
I think ultimately he knows that Lee is responsible for the public response. It's his behaviour that's got him in a pickle. However when you have the "victim" crying about it in the DR (for good reason), it just makes him appear even worse.”
“LOL. This. The hypocrisy is astounding.
Lee and the many FM here have berated Casey for becoming attached to him after 3 days (though this was never the real issue). Yet, Lee has whined more about his feelings for Yasmin than Casey has over him.
As for Dapey, I don't think he articulated very well what he meant.
I think ultimately he knows that Lee is responsible for the public response. It's his behaviour that's got him in a pickle. However when you have the "victim" crying about it in the DR (for good reason), it just makes him appear even worse.”
Yes they're as bad as one another.....They are both so pathetic , they're probably meant to be together!
Originally Posted by KatrinaK:
“LOL. This. The hypocrisy is astounding.
Lee and the many FM here have berated Casey for becoming attached to him after 3 days (though this was never the real issue). Yet, Lee has whined more about his feelings for Yasmin than Casey has over him.
As for Dapey, I don't think he articulated very well what he meant.
I think ultimately he knows that Lee is responsible for the public response. It's his behaviour that's got him in a pickle. However when you have the "victim" crying about it in the DR (for good reason), it just makes him appear even worse.”
“LOL. This. The hypocrisy is astounding.
Lee and the many FM here have berated Casey for becoming attached to him after 3 days (though this was never the real issue). Yet, Lee has whined more about his feelings for Yasmin than Casey has over him.
As for Dapey, I don't think he articulated very well what he meant.
I think ultimately he knows that Lee is responsible for the public response. It's his behaviour that's got him in a pickle. However when you have the "victim" crying about it in the DR (for good reason), it just makes him appear even worse.”
If he knows it's Lee's fault then what was that whole rationalization he did, he went over the scenario with Jasmine talking about how Lee felt it was Casey crying and her broken heart that caused the crowd response, then he went on this rant about "you can't fall for someone in 72 hours in Brother Brother, broken heart, back off lady", and the whole tone of the conversation was more on Lee's side, "he, he, he, he" it was never "she" or about Casey and how she might be feeling, it was all about how Lee feels... adding in the way he imitated her crying as an over the top cartoonish context, and then he ends it by saying and "it's probably true that's what it was" that caused it, and that it's "necessarily and could be her fault".
Jasmine throwing her "people are stupid" which again is more blaming of Casey, implying that she's somehow manipulating the situation and people are stupid in falling for it, which again puts the conversation more in the positive direction and supporting of Lee and blaming of Casey.
Originally Posted by bulldog rosie:
“What about the objectification and mistreatment of men?? Please try and stay in the real world ........He didn't beat her up !”
“What about the objectification and mistreatment of men?? Please try and stay in the real world ........He didn't beat her up !”
i don't really want to get into a debate with some kind of mens rights activist but the events in the house are not reflecting the "objectification of men" which is why we're not discussing it. and the "beat her up" comment is just totally irrelevant, physical abuse is not the only way in which someone can be mistreated.
For my thinking Lee just had a one night stand with Casey, it may of ended in the bathroom but it was just that sex... but just like with PJ he couldnt run away from her fast enough, the guy being too thick too understand that in the house a one night stand wont go away. The tool then moved on to girl no2 ... and was shocked when girl no 1 got the hump ... in the real world he would just ignore her calls .. there he cant.
As for Dappy, of course he would blame any girl or anything .. thats how he rolls
As for Dappy, of course he would blame any girl or anything .. thats how he rolls
Originally Posted by Hoffmister:
“For my thinking Lee just had a one night stand with Casey, it may of ended in the bathroom but it was just that sex... but just like with PJ he couldnt run away from her fast enough, the guy being too thick too understand that in the house a one night stand wont go away. The tool then moved on to girl no2 ... and was shocked when girl no 1 got the hump ... in the real world he would just ignore her calls .. there he cant.
As for Dappy, of course he would blame any girl or anything .. thats how he rolls”
“For my thinking Lee just had a one night stand with Casey, it may of ended in the bathroom but it was just that sex... but just like with PJ he couldnt run away from her fast enough, the guy being too thick too understand that in the house a one night stand wont go away. The tool then moved on to girl no2 ... and was shocked when girl no 1 got the hump ... in the real world he would just ignore her calls .. there he cant.
As for Dappy, of course he would blame any girl or anything .. thats how he rolls”
lee and Casey didn't have sex. She said to Sam on Tuesday's show that they kissed in the toilet, nothing more.
Originally Posted by onfencewithrach:
“Adding insult to injury,
"It's Casey's fault because she was hurt and cried and made him look bad"
By the stars! You couldn't make this stuff up!
Yeah, it didn't have anything to do with Lee's actions making him look bad, take the blame off of him and blame it all on Casey for not allowing Lee to be a jerk and accepting it.
And then Lee acting like he's the victim and did nothing in the bolthole. He hasn't even learned anything after all of this.
Lee, Dappy and Jasmine and whoever else in there who supports them are so unbelievably slimy, and cretinous... sleazeballs and neanderthals.”
“Adding insult to injury,
"It's Casey's fault because she was hurt and cried and made him look bad"
By the stars! You couldn't make this stuff up!
Yeah, it didn't have anything to do with Lee's actions making him look bad, take the blame off of him and blame it all on Casey for not allowing Lee to be a jerk and accepting it.
And then Lee acting like he's the victim and did nothing in the bolthole. He hasn't even learned anything after all of this.
Lee, Dappy and Jasmine and whoever else in there who supports them are so unbelievably slimy, and cretinous... sleazeballs and neanderthals.”
What Dappy said was 'He's pissed off with her, he feels, because she went in there and cried..."
which could mean that its wholly Lee's perspective he is relaying.....
Originally Posted by onfencewithrach:
“If he knows it's Lee's fault then what was that whole rationalization he did, he went over the scenario with Jasmine talking about how Lee felt it was Casey crying and her broken heart that caused the crowd response, then he went on this rant about "you can't fall for someone in 72 hours in Brother Brother, broken heart, back off lady", and the whole tone of the conversation was more on Lee's side, "he, he, he, he" it was never "she" or about Casey and how she might be feeling, it was all about how Lee feels... adding in the way he imitated her crying as an over the top cartoonish context, and then he ends it by saying and "it's probably true that's what it was" that caused it, and that it's "necessarily and could be her fault".
Jasmine throwing her "people are stupid" which again is more blaming of Casey, implying that she's somehow manipulating the situation and people are stupid in falling for it, which again puts the conversation more in the positive direction and supporting of Lee and blaming of Casey.”
“If he knows it's Lee's fault then what was that whole rationalization he did, he went over the scenario with Jasmine talking about how Lee felt it was Casey crying and her broken heart that caused the crowd response, then he went on this rant about "you can't fall for someone in 72 hours in Brother Brother, broken heart, back off lady", and the whole tone of the conversation was more on Lee's side, "he, he, he, he" it was never "she" or about Casey and how she might be feeling, it was all about how Lee feels... adding in the way he imitated her crying as an over the top cartoonish context, and then he ends it by saying and "it's probably true that's what it was" that caused it, and that it's "necessarily and could be her fault".
Jasmine throwing her "people are stupid" which again is more blaming of Casey, implying that she's somehow manipulating the situation and people are stupid in falling for it, which again puts the conversation more in the positive direction and supporting of Lee and blaming of Casey.”
but I do agree with this, and Dappy said "Lee feels thats whats turned the public against him, and its most probably true" showing that he does blame Casey directly....however, I think it was more for Jasmine's benefit, ie Dappy showing Jasmine he is on her side rather than Casey's (or Lee's for that matter.)
He then says to Jasmine her looks are causing trouble, as his little attempt to have a cheeky 'you and me' bonding thing, which he then tries to seal with physical contact that she brushes off and walks away.
He's a weasel.
Originally Posted by NatoPMT:
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but I do agree with this, and Dappy said "Lee feels thats whats turned the public against him, and its most probably true" showing that he does blame Casey directly....however, I think it was more for Jasmine's benefit, ie Dappy showing Jasmine he is on her side rather than Casey's (or Lee's for that matter.)
He then says to Jasmine her looks are causing trouble, as his little attempt to have a cheeky 'you and me' bonding thing, which he then tries to seal with physical contact that she brushes off and walks away.
He's a weasel.”
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but I do agree with this, and Dappy said "Lee feels thats whats turned the public against him, and its most probably true" showing that he does blame Casey directly....however, I think it was more for Jasmine's benefit, ie Dappy showing Jasmine he is on her side rather than Casey's (or Lee's for that matter.)
He then says to Jasmine her looks are causing trouble, as his little attempt to have a cheeky 'you and me' bonding thing, which he then tries to seal with physical contact that she brushes off and walks away.
He's a weasel.”
and "it necessarily could be her fault"... "probably true" and "could be her fault", the focus on he, he, he... the over the top imitation of her crying, the hard stance taken on the amount of time, not disagreeing with Jasmine's "people are stupid" comment, it's all there, it all adds up.
Perhaps it could've been for Jasmine's benefit in some way but that doesn't make it a whole lot better that he would blame Casey even though he didn't believe that to get in with Jasmine.
Originally Posted by bulldog rosie:
“lee and Casey didn't have sex. She said to Sam on Tuesday's show that they kissed in the toilet, nothing more.”
“lee and Casey didn't have sex. She said to Sam on Tuesday's show that they kissed in the toilet, nothing more.”
yes you are correct, his pee pee dintnt enter her hoo hoo.. however he did get so excited he was sent to the toilet by her ...thats not just cuddling is it
Originally Posted by onfencewithrach:
“and "it necessarily could be her fault"... "probably true" and "could be her fault", the focus on he, he, he... the over the top imitation of her crying, the hard stance taken on the amount of time, not disagreeing with Jasmine's "people are stupid" comment, it's all there, it all adds up.
Perhaps it could've been for Jasmine's benefit in some way but that doesn't make it a whole lot better that he would blame Casey even though he didn't believe that to get in with Jasmine.”
“and "it necessarily could be her fault"... "probably true" and "could be her fault", the focus on he, he, he... the over the top imitation of her crying, the hard stance taken on the amount of time, not disagreeing with Jasmine's "people are stupid" comment, it's all there, it all adds up.
Perhaps it could've been for Jasmine's benefit in some way but that doesn't make it a whole lot better that he would blame Casey even though he didn't believe that to get in with Jasmine.”
Nope, means he's a misogynist who's also prepared to do the dirty on his supposed ally
Originally Posted by Neuchowski:
“i don't really want to get into a debate with some kind of mens rights activist but the events in the house are not reflecting the "objectification of men" which is why we're not discussing it. and the "beat her up" comment is just totally irrelevant, physical abuse is not the only way in which someone can be mistreated.”
“i don't really want to get into a debate with some kind of mens rights activist but the events in the house are not reflecting the "objectification of men" which is why we're not discussing it. and the "beat her up" comment is just totally irrelevant, physical abuse is not the only way in which someone can be mistreated.”
I hate to break into your fantasy world ...but in reality, you're the only one discussing it !
Originally Posted by Neuchowski:
“the objectification and mistreatment of women isn't a real issue?”
“the objectification and mistreatment of women isn't a real issue?”
She's a topless model. She's probably not that fussed about objectification. Infact she may well enjoy it.
Originally Posted by michaelkegnan:
“Shit happens.”
“Shit happens.”
Great comeback, not. It's impossible to argue with you because you fail to take anyone else's opinions on board.
Originally Posted by Pumping Iron:
“She's a topless model. She's probably not that fussed about objectification. Infact she may well enjoy it.”
“She's a topless model. She's probably not that fussed about objectification. Infact she may well enjoy it.”
SMH.
Unbelievable, you do realize that's the kind of thing some of us are talking about. Geez.
Did they allow Lee or Dappy to get on the internet?
Originally Posted by onfencewithrach:
“SMH.
Unbelievable, you do realize that's the kind of thing some of us are talking about. Geez.
Did they allow Lee or Dappy to get on the internet?”
“SMH.
Unbelievable, you do realize that's the kind of thing some of us are talking about. Geez.
Did they allow Lee or Dappy to get on the internet?”
What does SMH mean ? And why aren't you sitting on the fence ?
Originally Posted by bulldog rosie:
“What does SMH mean ? And why aren't you sitting on the fence ?”
“What does SMH mean ? And why aren't you sitting on the fence ?
”
"Shaking My Head"
Usually in disbelief or disgust.
...because Rachel Rice isn't there currently.
Originally Posted by onfencewithrach:
“SMH.
Unbelievable, you do realize that's the kind of thing some of us are talking about. Geez.
Did they allow Lee or Dappy to get on the internet?”
“SMH.
Unbelievable, you do realize that's the kind of thing some of us are talking about. Geez.
Did they allow Lee or Dappy to get on the internet?”
I don't have a clue what you're on about.
Originally Posted by NatoPMT:
“Evidently”
“Evidently”
Yes I must admit I am not quite up to date with internet abbreviations and slang.
I know many guys and some girls but overall guys are thinking the same thing as Dappy , because he's single and they didn't really know each other, that it takes two to tango.
Thats what I've heard.
Thats what I've heard.
Originally Posted by onfencewithrach:
“Adding insult to injury,
"It's Casey's fault because she was hurt and cried and made him look bad"
By the stars! You couldn't make this stuff up!
Yeah, it didn't have anything to do with Lee's actions making him look bad, take the blame off of him and blame it all on Casey for not allowing Lee to be a jerk and accepting it.
And then Lee acting like he's the victim and did nothing in the bolthole. He hasn't even learned anything after all of this.
Lee, Dappy and Jasmine and whoever else in there who supports them are so unbelievably slimy, and cretinous... sleazeballs and neanderthals.”
“Adding insult to injury,
"It's Casey's fault because she was hurt and cried and made him look bad"
By the stars! You couldn't make this stuff up!
Yeah, it didn't have anything to do with Lee's actions making him look bad, take the blame off of him and blame it all on Casey for not allowing Lee to be a jerk and accepting it.
And then Lee acting like he's the victim and did nothing in the bolthole. He hasn't even learned anything after all of this.
Lee, Dappy and Jasmine and whoever else in there who supports them are so unbelievably slimy, and cretinous... sleazeballs and neanderthals.”
I totally agree op, it annoyed me too.
There is no rational explanation for any blame for this whole sorry mess being put on anyone other than lee himself. That and misogyny at any rate, no matter what happens there will be some idiots always blame the woman regardless.
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