with the amount of males on this forum who find Lees behaviour unacceptable... my faith has been restored 
Im impressed...
Perhaps because the like the madonnas with the big boobies 
Sorry, that's very sexist, although I was joking lol... are there lots of disapproving men (I don't check everybody's profile)... if there are, that's good to know
Sorry, that's very sexist, although I was joking lol... are there lots of disapproving men (I don't check everybody's profile)... if there are, that's good to know
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“Sorry, that's very sexist”
“Sorry, that's very sexist”
Not as sexist as the OP's prior beliefs of 'males' as a collective group.
Originally Posted by InMyArms:
“Not as sexist as the OP's prior beliefs of 'males' as a collective group.”
“Not as sexist as the OP's prior beliefs of 'males' as a collective group.
”
FFS get a grip
Originally Posted by Honestweegie:
“with the amount of males on this forum who find Lees behaviour unacceptable... my faith has been restored”
“with the amount of males on this forum who find Lees behaviour unacceptable... my faith has been restored
”
Unfortunately alot of people outside in the real world doesn't seem to share your perspective.
I've literally been called gay and weird by girls because i didn't attempt to jump on them, and want to have sex with them all of the time.
Have been broken up with by two different girls for being "too nice".
Have been told by numerous girls in conversation that are simply not attracted to my type and that they are attracted to a more manly, aggressive confident "man" and were basically repelled by my being too nice and unaggressive (in so many words)
Not to mention these guys like Lee that i've personally known throughout the years have all kinds of girlfriends while a guy like myself who is against that sort of thing would be lucky to be friends with a girl.
So, there's still a long way to go before my type of guy is appreciated i'm afraid.
Originally Posted by onfencewithrach:
“Unfortunately alot of people outside in the real world doesn't seem to share your perspective.
I've literally been called gay and weird by girls because i didn't attempt to jump on them, and want to have sex with them all of the time.
Have been broken up with by two different girls for being "too nice".
Have been told by numerous girls in conversation that are simply not attracted to my type and that they are attracted to a more manly, aggressive confident "man".
Not to mention these guys like Lee that i've personally known throughout the years have all kinds of girlfriends while a guy like myself who is against that sort of thing would be lucky to be friends with a girl.
So, there's still a long way to go before my type of guy is appreciated i'm afraid.”
“Unfortunately alot of people outside in the real world doesn't seem to share your perspective.
I've literally been called gay and weird by girls because i didn't attempt to jump on them, and want to have sex with them all of the time.
Have been broken up with by two different girls for being "too nice".
Have been told by numerous girls in conversation that are simply not attracted to my type and that they are attracted to a more manly, aggressive confident "man".
Not to mention these guys like Lee that i've personally known throughout the years have all kinds of girlfriends while a guy like myself who is against that sort of thing would be lucky to be friends with a girl.
So, there's still a long way to go before my type of guy is appreciated i'm afraid.
”
Just so you know... I luv yooo
Originally Posted by Honestweegie:
“Just so you know... I luv yooo”
“Just so you know... I luv yooo
”
Haha. Thanks.
Touche. My faith has also been restored.
Originally Posted by InMyArms:
“Not as sexist as the OP's prior beliefs of 'males' as a collective group.”
“Not as sexist as the OP's prior beliefs of 'males' as a collective group.
”
Originally Posted by Honestweegie:
“FFS get a grip”
“FFS get a grip”
I just think its ridiculous and patronising to males as a gender that you feel 'impressed' by them, and that your faith has been restored.
If went out and saw a woman parking correctly and proclaimed to the forum that my faith in women has been restored I would be called all kinds of names i'm sure. (Not that I hold the belief that women can't park/drive, that would be silly. Just an example of a stereotype)
Originally Posted by InMyArms:
“I just think its ridiculous and patronising to males as a gender that you feel 'impressed' by them, and that your faith has been restored.
If went out and saw a woman parking correctly and proclaimed to the forum that my faith in women has been restored I would be called all kinds of names i'm sure. (Not that I hold the belief that women can't park/drive, that would be silly)”
“I just think its ridiculous and patronising to males as a gender that you feel 'impressed' by them, and that your faith has been restored.
If went out and saw a woman parking correctly and proclaimed to the forum that my faith in women has been restored I would be called all kinds of names i'm sure. (Not that I hold the belief that women can't park/drive, that would be silly)”
I don't think the OP was being totally serious when putting us all into the tongue hanging out poke anything that moves and then cry a river of self-pity when we get caught out Lee Ryan Box
Originally Posted by InMyArms:
“Not as sexist as the OP's prior beliefs of 'males' as a collective group.”
“Not as sexist as the OP's prior beliefs of 'males' as a collective group.
”
That's a misinterpretation of what the OP said. S/he merely expressed pleasure at the extent of the condemnation Lee has received from male posters for being a total tw*t where women are concerned.
Nothing in the OP suggests a preconception of males as a whole.
Originally Posted by InMyArms:
“I just think its ridiculous and patronising to males as a gender that you feel 'impressed' by them, and that your faith has been restored.
If went out and saw a woman parking correctly and proclaimed to the forum that my faith in women has been restored I would be called all kinds of names i'm sure. (Not that I hold the belief that women can't park/drive, that would be silly. Just an example of a stereotype)”
“I just think its ridiculous and patronising to males as a gender that you feel 'impressed' by them, and that your faith has been restored.
If went out and saw a woman parking correctly and proclaimed to the forum that my faith in women has been restored I would be called all kinds of names i'm sure. (Not that I hold the belief that women can't park/drive, that would be silly. Just an example of a stereotype)”
If youre offended with me calling people "males" then theres not a lot going on in your life
Originally Posted by onfencewithrach:
“Unfortunately alot of people outside in the real world doesn't seem to share your perspective.
I've literally been called gay and weird by girls because i didn't attempt to jump on them, and want to have sex with them all of the time.
Have been broken up with by two different girls for being "too nice".
Have been told by numerous girls in conversation that are simply not attracted to my type and that they are attracted to a more manly, aggressive confident "man" and were basically repelled by my being too nice and unaggressive (in so many words)
Not to mention these guys like Lee that i've personally known throughout the years have all kinds of girlfriends while a guy like myself who is against that sort of thing would be lucky to be friends with a girl.
So, there's still a long way to go before my type of guy is appreciated i'm afraid.”
“Unfortunately alot of people outside in the real world doesn't seem to share your perspective.
I've literally been called gay and weird by girls because i didn't attempt to jump on them, and want to have sex with them all of the time.
Have been broken up with by two different girls for being "too nice".
Have been told by numerous girls in conversation that are simply not attracted to my type and that they are attracted to a more manly, aggressive confident "man" and were basically repelled by my being too nice and unaggressive (in so many words)
Not to mention these guys like Lee that i've personally known throughout the years have all kinds of girlfriends while a guy like myself who is against that sort of thing would be lucky to be friends with a girl.
So, there's still a long way to go before my type of guy is appreciated i'm afraid.
”
lol
I've been called gay a few times in the past by different girls for not jumping on them when we were alone, too!
One of them was quite hot but she was about 16 and I was about 20, and her dad was in the same house and could have crushed me into a fine powder at the time.
The other time was with a drunk girl who I had no interest at all! Big drunk whale of a girl.
I regret the first instance some what.
You need to really go for it. Nice guys do finish last when it comes to having fun.
Take a leaf out of Lee Ryans book. Not the whole book, though. Just a page or two.
It's about confidence, I guess...
Originally Posted by jesterofmalice:
“lol
I've been called gay a few times in the past by different girls for not jumping on them when we were alone, too!
One of them was quite hot but she was about 16 and I was about 20, and her dad was in the same house and could have crushed me into a fine powder at the time.
The other time was with a drunk girl who I had no interest at all! Big drunk whale of a girl.
I regret the first instance some what.
You need to really go for it. Nice guys do finish last when it comes to having fun.
Take a leaf out of Lee Ryans book. Not the whole book, though. Just a page or two.
It's about confidence, I guess...”
“lol
I've been called gay a few times in the past by different girls for not jumping on them when we were alone, too!
One of them was quite hot but she was about 16 and I was about 20, and her dad was in the same house and could have crushed me into a fine powder at the time.
The other time was with a drunk girl who I had no interest at all! Big drunk whale of a girl.
I regret the first instance some what.
You need to really go for it. Nice guys do finish last when it comes to having fun.
Take a leaf out of Lee Ryans book. Not the whole book, though. Just a page or two.
It's about confidence, I guess...”
Erm... not so nice!!
If a woman called me gay for not jumping on her I'd think she was a bit thick and be glad I hadn't jumped on her
and jumping on women while their Dad is in the room is definitely not correct jumping etiquette
I'd think she was a bit thick and be glad I hadn't jumped on her and jumping on women while their Dad is in the room is definitely not correct jumping etiquette
Originally Posted by Kim_Bolton:
“Erm... not so nice!!”
“Erm... not so nice!!”
Yeah, but neither was she!
'What's F'ing wrong with you?! Are you gay or something? There's just me and you in here and i'm making it obvious that i'm up for it!(sex)!! Why 'avn't you made your move?!'
Originally Posted by jesterofmalice:
“lol
I've been called gay a few times in the past by different girls for not jumping on them when we were alone, too!
One of them was quite hot but she was about 16 and I was about 20, and her dad was in the same house and could have crushed me into a fine powder at the time.
The other time was with a drunk girl who I had no interest at all! Big drunk whale of a girl.
I regret the first instance some what.
You need to really go for it. Nice guys do finish last when it comes to having fun.
Take a leaf out of Lee Ryans book. Not the whole book, though. Just a page or two.
It's about confidence, I guess...”
“lol
I've been called gay a few times in the past by different girls for not jumping on them when we were alone, too!
One of them was quite hot but she was about 16 and I was about 20, and her dad was in the same house and could have crushed me into a fine powder at the time.
The other time was with a drunk girl who I had no interest at all! Big drunk whale of a girl.
I regret the first instance some what.
You need to really go for it. Nice guys do finish last when it comes to having fun.
Take a leaf out of Lee Ryans book. Not the whole book, though. Just a page or two.
It's about confidence, I guess...”
Well, for me it wasn't about the situation it was about who i am, i can't "just go for it", or not be shy, or have certain confidence, or be like some of these other "bro" manly guys who get all the girls, it's just not who i am unfortunately. Hehe.
Me with a girl is about the most awkward, and uncomfortable thing probably ever witnessed on this planet.
In a car ride, one time with a girl i was interested in, she accidentaly sat on my hand and i couldn't bring myself to say anything the whole ride until at the end she laughed and says, "oh, is that your hand" which was about as embarrassing at it gets.
In school, i tried to put a note on a girl's desk that said "i like you alot", as she got up and went to the front of the classroom, it ended up on her seat and she came back to her desk and sat on it and never knew it was there. In retrospect it's better she never knew with a note of brilliant quality such as "i like you alot".
Come to think of it, there's alot of scenarios that involve girls sitting on things for some reason.
That's only a small example, there's instances on a "double date" if you can call it that, where my much more manly friend and i, took a drive and i thought we were like going to go out and try and have some fun for the night, he parks the car in some dark lot and they start making out and practically doing it while me and this poor girl sat there quietly through the entire thing and me feeling about as small as you can possibly feel.
and i wouldn't even speak of my first kiss, hopefully that's never remembered in the history of things remembered again, if only i could forget, i'd almost like to get amnesia just so i could forget that.
as Morrissey once wrote, "I am the son and the heir, of a shyness that is criminally vulgar".
But even knowing that these other guys get tons and tons of girls, and everything i could desire... i still don't think i'd want to be like them, because i know them... i know who and what they are intimately without the mask on, i've been their friends, i've heard their true feelings and thoughts and if that's what it takes than i guess it's just not for me, in this life.
Originally Posted by Pitman:
“and jumping on women while their Dad is in the room is definitely not correct jumping etiquette”
“and jumping on women while their Dad is in the room is definitely not correct jumping etiquette
”
Not the same room!
Big house party in a huge house out in the sticks.
Getting late and i'm in a room with this girl who was being kinda flirty (who went on to ask if I was gay when I didn't pounce on her!
)Her dad was in the same house, but I was probably quite safe...
I'm better in such situations nowadays (but still not as 'forward' as lots of my 'lee ryan' type friends who pounce!)
I'm still too reserved I guess....
Originally Posted by onfencewithrach:
“Well, for me it wasn't about the situation it was about who i am, i can't "just go for it", or not be shy, or have certain confidence, or be like some of these other "bro" manly guys who get all the girls, it's just not who i am unfortunately. Hehe.
Me with a girl is about the most awkward, and uncomfortable thing probably ever witnessed on this planet.
In a car ride, one time with a girl i was interested in, she accidentaly sat on my hand and i couldn't bring myself to say anything the whole ride until at the end she laughed and says, "oh, is that your hand" which was about as embarrassing at it gets.
In school, i tried to put a note on a girl's desk that said "i like you alot", as she got up and went to the front of the classroom, it ended up on her seat and she came back to her desk and sat on it and never knew it was there. In retrospect it's better she never knew with a note of brilliant quality such as "i like you alot".
Come to think of it, there's alot of scenarios that involve girls sitting on things for some reason.
That's only a small example, there's instances on a "double date" if you can call it that, where my much more manly friend and i, took a drive and i thought we were like going to go out and try and have some fun for the night, he parks the car in some dark lot and they start making out and practically doing it while me and this poor girl sat there quietly through the entire thing and me feeling about as small as you can possibly feel.
and i wouldn't even speak of my first kiss, hopefully that's never remembered in the history of things remembered again, if only i could forget, i'd almost like to get amnesia just so i could forget that.
as Morrissey once wrote, "I am the son and the heir, of a shyness that is criminally vulgar".
But even knowing that these other guys get tons and tons of girls, and everything i could desire... i still don't think i'd want to be like them.”
“Well, for me it wasn't about the situation it was about who i am, i can't "just go for it", or not be shy, or have certain confidence, or be like some of these other "bro" manly guys who get all the girls, it's just not who i am unfortunately. Hehe.
Me with a girl is about the most awkward, and uncomfortable thing probably ever witnessed on this planet.
In a car ride, one time with a girl i was interested in, she accidentaly sat on my hand and i couldn't bring myself to say anything the whole ride until at the end she laughed and says, "oh, is that your hand" which was about as embarrassing at it gets.
In school, i tried to put a note on a girl's desk that said "i like you alot", as she got up and went to the front of the classroom, it ended up on her seat and she came back to her desk and sat on it and never knew it was there. In retrospect it's better she never knew with a note of brilliant quality such as "i like you alot".
Come to think of it, there's alot of scenarios that involve girls sitting on things for some reason.
That's only a small example, there's instances on a "double date" if you can call it that, where my much more manly friend and i, took a drive and i thought we were like going to go out and try and have some fun for the night, he parks the car in some dark lot and they start making out and practically doing it while me and this poor girl sat there quietly through the entire thing and me feeling about as small as you can possibly feel.
and i wouldn't even speak of my first kiss, hopefully that's never remembered in the history of things remembered again, if only i could forget, i'd almost like to get amnesia just so i could forget that.
as Morrissey once wrote, "I am the son and the heir, of a shyness that is criminally vulgar".
But even knowing that these other guys get tons and tons of girls, and everything i could desire... i still don't think i'd want to be like them.”
That's one of the sweetest, most honest posts I've read and I think you're lovely.
Originally Posted by Honestweegie:
“with the amount of males on this forum who find Lees behaviour unacceptable... my faith has been restored”
“with the amount of males on this forum who find Lees behaviour unacceptable... my faith has been restored
”
Did you bother to think how many of them were gay?
Originally Posted by Will_Loz:
“Did you bother to think how many of them were gay?”
“Did you bother to think how many of them were gay?
”
Ironic. Did you read the whole thread?
Originally Posted by Will_Loz:
“Did you bother to think how many of them were gay?”
“Did you bother to think how many of them were gay?
”
Nope, don't bother me, as long as youre nice I don't care what your sexual preference is
Originally Posted by onfencewithrach:
“Unfortunately alot of people outside in the real world doesn't seem to share your perspective.
I've literally been called gay and weird by girls because i didn't attempt to jump on them, and want to have sex with them all of the time.
Have been broken up with by two different girls for being "too nice".
Have been told by numerous girls in conversation that are simply not attracted to my type and that they are attracted to a more manly, aggressive confident "man" and were basically repelled by my being too nice and unaggressive (in so many words)
Not to mention these guys like Lee that i've personally known throughout the years have all kinds of girlfriends while a guy like myself who is against that sort of thing would be lucky to be friends with a girl.
So, there's still a long way to go before my type of guy is appreciated i'm afraid.”
“Unfortunately alot of people outside in the real world doesn't seem to share your perspective.
I've literally been called gay and weird by girls because i didn't attempt to jump on them, and want to have sex with them all of the time.
Have been broken up with by two different girls for being "too nice".
Have been told by numerous girls in conversation that are simply not attracted to my type and that they are attracted to a more manly, aggressive confident "man" and were basically repelled by my being too nice and unaggressive (in so many words)
Not to mention these guys like Lee that i've personally known throughout the years have all kinds of girlfriends while a guy like myself who is against that sort of thing would be lucky to be friends with a girl.
So, there's still a long way to go before my type of guy is appreciated i'm afraid.
”
It sounds like you've just been after the wrong girls.
Originally Posted by Kim_Bolton:
“That's one of the sweetest, most honest posts I've read and I think you're lovely.”
“That's one of the sweetest, most honest posts I've read and I think you're lovely.”
Awww. That's kind, thanks.
I've got my share of issues though, most likely a guy with such views, and perspective isn't going to be the Brad Pitt's or George Clooney's of the world. Hehe.
More like Powder, or Untamed Heart.
The cover usually isn't a representation of what the inside is like.
Quote:
“It sounds like you've just been after the wrong girls.”
“It sounds like you've just been after the wrong girls.”
This guy doesn't exactly "go after" anyone.
It's just who i've met in my journey, and it's been pretty much every one of them.
Anyway, this is becoming awkward and uncomfortable, let's go back to talking about anything other than me now. Please.
[just felt like sharing my experiences]
Originally Posted by jesterofmalice:
“lol
I've been called gay a few times in the past by different girls for not jumping on them when we were alone, too!
One of them was quite hot but she was about 16 and I was about 20, and her dad was in the same house and could have crushed me into a fine powder at the time.
The other time was with a drunk girl who I had no interest at all! Big drunk whale of a girl.
I regret the first instance some what.
You need to really go for it. Nice guys do finish last when it comes to having fun.
Take a leaf out of Lee Ryans book. Not the whole book, though. Just a page or two.
It's about confidence, I guess...”
“lol
I've been called gay a few times in the past by different girls for not jumping on them when we were alone, too!
One of them was quite hot but she was about 16 and I was about 20, and her dad was in the same house and could have crushed me into a fine powder at the time.
The other time was with a drunk girl who I had no interest at all! Big drunk whale of a girl.
I regret the first instance some what.
You need to really go for it. Nice guys do finish last when it comes to having fun.
Take a leaf out of Lee Ryans book. Not the whole book, though. Just a page or two.
It's about confidence, I guess...”
It's defo the confidence, although I know a fair few girls who seem to be attracted to guys that treat them like shit. Studies show that when us girls are ovulating we instinctively look for a man that has a beard or a rough demeanor as they look like 'caveman' effectively, providers, protectors, to care for them and the children. But who really knows.
