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Old 20-01-2014, 01:29
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could agree more. everything in this post sums up my thoughts exactly and it's nice to see there's some like minded thinkers out there. the people who moan about the moaning of waiting don't understand that many casual viewers really will have forgotten about the new face by then, whereas if they did an easter special (however unlikely it now seems) there would still be a risidual buzz about him and the regeneration from christmas
Just like we all forgot about the War Doctor in the seven months between John Hurt's cliffhanger introduction and the anniversary special. Tom Baker, Peter Davison and David Tennant also failed dismally because we forgot all about them in the long gaps following their regenerations. Colin Baker, however, benefited greatly from a rushed introduction, full of creative decisions which were best made with great haste.
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Old 20-01-2014, 02:36
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but it showed that he was completely and utterly dedicated to the show, and personally I think that shone through in the quality of the four series he produced. with sherlock to deal with and not willing to put in the effort that russell did, I think moffat, as a fan as well as part of it, should hand over the reign's to someone who has got more time on their hands. I believe both doctor who and sherlock would benefit from it. Definitely not gatiss though, because apart from anything else, he is also a major part of sherlock
NO evidence for any of this.

I believe Doctor Who would benefit from at least two people show running to split the workload but most of what you say is simply assumption.

the people who moan about the moaning of waiting don't understand that many casual viewers really will have forgotten about the new face by then
Yeah, course they will. The audience are as dumb as a bag of rocks.
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Old 20-01-2014, 08:20
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Dear non-british viewers of Doctor Who on this forum,

Serious Question - does the shift back to Autumn have any impact (to sports, holiday season etc. in your countries?)

As an aside - the BBc can show doctor Who whenever they want, I'll just watch repeats in the meantime ...

Dear The Judge. Thank you for thinking of us "non-British" viewers with this query. In short (yes) for us viewers (here in the Antipodes at least) this will impact us. Due to the threat of downloading, we now get Dr Who pretty quick after being shown in the UK. Last season was only a week after! Which is great. So that means it was recently an autumn/ winter screening for us (which too was good as others have mentioned the show suits this). So moving to a UK autumn will mean moving to a Southern hemisphere spring (which isn't quite as good here (sports/ season)).

What I really have a problem with is the chopping & changing and the lessening number of shows. Why can't they keep it constant & do more shows? They can in the States. I've raised this already in another thread & I still don't buy the response: "but they have more money & more viewership for their sci-fi shows". Dr Who is watched globally to greater audiences & has far more money spent on it than ever before (even with inflation), but they produced more & I believe better quality shows/ stories, and for a shoe string in comparison (in the mid 70's at least).

The only show which has been remade with much more spent on it than the original that is vastly better than the original is Battlestar Galactica (IMHO).
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Old 20-01-2014, 09:16
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Please can the BBC explain the scheduling stupidity of Doctor Who?

Season 1 Mar - Jun 2005
Season 2 Apr- Jul 2006
Season 3 Mar - Jun 2007
Season 4 Apr- Jul 2008
Season 5 Apr - Jun 2010
Season 6 Apr - Jun Aug - Oct 2011
Season 7 Sep 2012 Mar - May 2013
Season 8 Autumn 2014

So from a show that began around Easter it will go into the Autumn.

Now BBC are you happy this time? Can you keep to having Doctor Who at a roughly same point of the year again? Or you going to mess around again in 2016??

And why so late in the year anyway???
I pissed me off is essentially us fans got ripped off getting a 2009 & 2013 series with these specials & split series.

I wish we could get back to a April start so it leaves a while before we get the christmas episode.

One thing I am sick of is these missing episodes delays because of supposedly the new series airing.
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Old 20-01-2014, 09:43
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I pissed me off is essentially us fans got ripped off getting a 2009 & 2013 series with these specials & split series.

I wish we could get back to a April start so it leaves a while before we get the christmas episode.

One thing I am sick of is these missing episodes delays because of supposedly the new series airing.
Please check your facts before ranting, no one got "ripped off"; the specials year was RTDs idea because most of the crew were moving on from the show at the same time he was. The amount of time it takes to get a whole new production team/ crew assembled meant that without the specials year we would have had precisely 0 Doctor Who on the tv. So thank God RTD came up with something. It's hardly like RTD was sat at home thinking "MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA NOW THE WHOVIANS WILL HAVE LESS THAN THEY USUALLY DO THIS YEAR!!!!!! 3>: D" He isn't a supervillain aiming to deprive you of episodes!

Similarly the split series 7 was due to production delays; even if they hadn't split series 7 there would have been no time to make and air a whole series 8 before the 50th, and as Matt intended to leave after that, we would all have lost out in terms of new stuff to watch during 2013, which wouldn't have been right IMO. On top of which the whole of series 7 wasn't ready to go at the time 7A aired anyway.

Also, the BBC have stated over and over again. There is no conspiracy. They have had NOTHING ELSE returned to them. Whilst I don't doubt there are more missing eps waiting out there to be discovered (and Phil Morris thinks so) the BBC aren't super villains. They want to make money so delaying announcements makes absolutely 0 sense.
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Old 20-01-2014, 10:58
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I pissed me off is essentially us fans got ripped off getting a 2009 & 2013 series with these specials & split series.

I wish we could get back to a April start so it leaves a while before we get the christmas episode.

One thing I am sick of is these missing episodes delays because of supposedly the new series airing.
So you're sick of new episodes not airing often enough, but you're also convinced that the airing of new episodes is somehow delaying the announcement of missing episode recoveries?

As for the gap between Series 8 and Christmas 2014, a continuous run of twelve or thirteen weeks from the August Bank Holiday will end around the middle of November. According to doctor blue box on this thread, the goldfish-like British public will have already forgotten the finale by Christmas.
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Old 20-01-2014, 11:15
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I prefer docyor who in the Autum so hopefully they'll stick to this schedule
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Old 20-01-2014, 13:27
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it may not be integral when in the year it is shown, but I think it does matter how long a gap there is when your trying to get the audience to warm to a new character you've just introduced, or in this case a new version of the same character.it's like if someone introduced you to a new person in real life, but only let you shake their hand and say hello, then took them away and told you, you couldn't have a proper conversation with them for 9 month's. Do you think you would wait patiently, wondering what the person's personality is like, or do you think you would have completely forgotten about them? I think realistically it would be the latter
If I'd known them for 50 years under various different guises, of which this is the latest one, then yes, I would wait patiently.
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Old 20-01-2014, 14:18
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If I'd known them for 50 years under various different guises, of which this is the latest one, then yes, I would wait patiently.
you and every other die hard fanthink like this, but I'm talking about the casual viewer perspective
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Old 20-01-2014, 14:22
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you and every other die hard fanthink like this, but I'm talking about the casual viewer perspective
Wasn't there quite a large gap between Tennant's first appearance and his first full episode at Christmas? I think he proved to be quite popular with casual viewers.
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Old 20-01-2014, 14:26
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Wasn't there quite a large gap between Tennant's first appearance and his first full episode at Christmas? I think he proved to be quite popular with casual viewers.
that was four months, nothing like 9 months
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Old 20-01-2014, 14:29
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that was four months, nothing like 9 months
I just double checked and it was six months.
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Old 20-01-2014, 14:40
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Some people could forget all about him for all it matters.

Because it doesn't. Not until his first episode. That's when opinions should start to be formed - when the character is *there*

"What kind of line is Kidneys?! I don't like him already! grumblegrumble"

By *there* I of course mean Tennant's "did you miss me?" and Smith's "Basically, run."
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Old 20-01-2014, 14:55
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I just double checked and it was six months.
okay, longer than I thought at a quick estimate, but this is still the longest in the entirety of new who that we've had to wait between regeneration and new doctor's first full ep
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Old 20-01-2014, 14:57
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Some people could forget all about him for all it matters.

Because it doesn't. Not until his first episode. That's when opinions should start to be formed - when the character is *there*

"What kind of line is Kidneys?! I don't like him already! grumblegrumble"

By *there* I of course mean Tennant's "did you miss me?" and Smith's "Basically, run."
would rather not have the wait, but in all fairness, I see what your saying
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Old 20-01-2014, 19:13
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Blimey, I'd hardly call 9 months a hiatus! And people are humans not goldfish, so I suspect they'll remember what the Doctor looks like, even after such a lengthy gap.

I always used to love Doctor Who in the autumn and winter - something about the dark evenings just made it work. It was a beacon of light through the seemingly endless winters. Gave you something to look forward to in the run-up to Christmas, and made January bearable.

Having said that, I liked the way the Christmas episodes always seemed to be just around the corner. Shame I found them a little bit rubbish more often than not.
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Old 20-01-2014, 19:15
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Moffat kept millions of fans and casual viewers waiting and wondering about Sherlock jumping off a roof for TWO YEARS. Did everyone forget and stop caring? No. Record numbers tuned in. Can we not tar all viewers with the attention span of a five year old who has been at the blue smarties? It makes less sense to properly introduce the new Doctor for one episode, allow everyone to like/love/loathe him and then snatch the show off air again for months.
Patience.
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Old 20-01-2014, 19:28
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Ah, but the face of Sherlock was already known by that point, as opposed to Mr. Capaldi. After all, it's not like he was already in - oh, hang on, erm. Ok, then it's not like he he's been in it twice as the Doc - no, ok. Right, well it's not like they unveiled him in some prime time BBC1 - what's that you say? He was? Blimey. I'd forgotten about that. It was what, 5 months ago? Sure it wasn't 9?
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