I don't think she's a bunny boiler. I just think she's no push over!
Casey - Devious Bunny Boiler...
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Originally Posted by Will_Loz:
“Ignore the Casey apologists most of them taking out their past issues on Lee.
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“Ignore the Casey apologists most of them taking out their past issues on Lee.
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What a strange thing to say.
I'd heard the name 'Lee Ryan' before, but knew nothing more about him.
The fact is, he's acted without any regard for other's feelings, and Casey's reaction has been more than justified.
Originally Posted by Pinkminxy:
“There's being pissed, which she had every right to be...at the time. But now she's just coming across a bit obsessional, keep bringing it up. She also comes across to me as if she's still totally interested!”
“There's being pissed, which she had every right to be...at the time. But now she's just coming across a bit obsessional, keep bringing it up. She also comes across to me as if she's still totally interested!”
It's been one day and she has nothing to occupy her mind. In the outside world she would be out having a lovely time with her friends.
Originally Posted by Will_Loz:
“Ignore the Casey apologists most of them taking out their past issues on Lee.”
“Ignore the Casey apologists most of them taking out their past issues on Lee.
”
Nothing to contribute then? Trot off until you think of something.
Originally Posted by KatrinaK:
“Casey has every right to be annoyed.
This bloke said he liked her, wanted to see how things go on the outside and said he wanted to go on holiday with her. He was gropping and kissing her all while he said this too.
The next day he kisses Jasmine and doesn't even have the bottle to be straight with Casey. He just skirts around the subject and even when Casey asked him straight out to be honest with her, he couldn't do it.
In fact the next day he was kissing Casey again.
He sent her all these mixed messages and lost his balls. If he liked Jasmine, fine. I doubt this is the issue with Casey. The issue is that he just couldn't be honest enough to tell her that and strung her along for as long as possible.
It's all blown up his face because of HIS actions, not Casey's or Jasmine's for that matter. He's responsible for his own mess.”
“Casey has every right to be annoyed.
This bloke said he liked her, wanted to see how things go on the outside and said he wanted to go on holiday with her. He was gropping and kissing her all while he said this too.
The next day he kisses Jasmine and doesn't even have the bottle to be straight with Casey. He just skirts around the subject and even when Casey asked him straight out to be honest with her, he couldn't do it.
In fact the next day he was kissing Casey again.
He sent her all these mixed messages and lost his balls. If he liked Jasmine, fine. I doubt this is the issue with Casey. The issue is that he just couldn't be honest enough to tell her that and strung her along for as long as possible.
It's all blown up his face because of HIS actions, not Casey's or Jasmine's for that matter. He's responsible for his own mess.”
Yes, a good account. You have to add the time he spent going from person to person secretly trying to suggest that Casey had unfairly trapped him and that he was a victim, not having the moral courage or simple good manners to talk to Casey herself.
Lee is a complete tool.
However, she is somewhat obsessed - it was two days FFS. Get a grip girl, kick him up the ar@e and get on with having some fun.
However, she is somewhat obsessed - it was two days FFS. Get a grip girl, kick him up the ar@e and get on with having some fun.
Originally Posted by viduka09:
“Oh for heavens sake! He hardly declared his undying love for her, did he?”
“Oh for heavens sake! He hardly declared his undying love for her, did he?”
Very true.
Having said that- in this same vein, she's hardly 'boiled his bunny' either by merely having a bit of a go at him for selected parts of a day has she?
Originally Posted by AOTB:
“Very true.
Having said that- in this same vein, she's hardly 'boiled his bunny' either by merely having a bit of a go at him for selected parts of a day has she?”
“Very true.
Having said that- in this same vein, she's hardly 'boiled his bunny' either by merely having a bit of a go at him for selected parts of a day has she?
”
No she hasn't; and there is an unpleasant male fantasy being expressed here, that a man should be able to take up with a pretty woman, get what physical pleasure he can out of her, then drop her instantly, publicly, without explanation and without consequences the moment a more glamorous possiblity presents herself. How convenient if no one ever had to bother about things like politeness or honour, and could only focus on their groins.
Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey:
“No she hasn't; and there is an unpleasant male fantasy being expressed here, that a man should be able to take up with a pretty woman, get what physical pleasure he can out of her, then drop her instantly, publicly, without explanation and without consequences the moment a more glamorous possiblity presents herself. How convenient if no one ever had to bother about things like politeness or honour, and could only focus on their groins.”
“No she hasn't; and there is an unpleasant male fantasy being expressed here, that a man should be able to take up with a pretty woman, get what physical pleasure he can out of her, then drop her instantly, publicly, without explanation and without consequences the moment a more glamorous possiblity presents herself. How convenient if no one ever had to bother about things like politeness or honour, and could only focus on their groins.”
What a load of tosh. So none of the girls in there sleep around do they? Luisa for instance...?????
Originally Posted by Will_Loz:
“Ignore the Casey apologists most of them taking out their past issues on Lee.”
“Ignore the Casey apologists most of them taking out their past issues on Lee.
”
Really.
Personally I think he's a bit of a pratt. Hes like an overgrown child who got caught putting his hands in the cookie jar.
She went down in my estimations when she revealed she had no knickers on last night. I thought it was an odd comment and certainly not one Lee needed to hear.
She's probably not that used to rejection and can't deal with it, and jealous that Lee finds someone else more attractive.
Originally Posted by hooter:
“jealous much are you. He led here on and then dumped her...how would you feel in the same circumstances?”
“jealous much are you. He led here on and then dumped her...how would you feel in the same circumstances?”
If anyone is to blame then it's Big Brother, gosh they've been stuck in some hide out for days and then they get handcuffed together and forced to share a bed. They were both randy as hell it seems and it was obvious something would happen. Lee even said to her at the very beginning that he fanced Jasmine. If some guy told me that he fancied someone else I wouldn't have given him the time of day.
Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey:
“No she hasn't; and there is an unpleasant male fantasy being expressed here, that a man should be able to take up with a pretty woman, get what physical pleasure he can out of her, then drop her instantly, publicly, without explanation and without consequences the moment a more glamorous possiblity presents herself. How convenient if no one ever had to bother about things like politeness or honour, and could only focus on their groins.”
“No she hasn't; and there is an unpleasant male fantasy being expressed here, that a man should be able to take up with a pretty woman, get what physical pleasure he can out of her, then drop her instantly, publicly, without explanation and without consequences the moment a more glamorous possiblity presents herself. How convenient if no one ever had to bother about things like politeness or honour, and could only focus on their groins.”
That's the celebrity lifestyle for you... only it's shown as it is on national tv
Originally Posted by MysteriousOz:
“I get that she was hurt but OMG she needs to move on and accept that he doesn't like that that way, she has gone from victim to bunny boiler!”
“I get that she was hurt but OMG she needs to move on and accept that he doesn't like that that way, she has gone from victim to bunny boiler!”
Well it appeared to me that she had moved on and was making light of it all, where now it's Lee who is more sensitive about it all.
Originally Posted by Will_Loz:
“Ignore the Casey apologists most of them taking out their past issues on Lee.”
“Ignore the Casey apologists most of them taking out their past issues on Lee.
”
Missed this but it's an 'interesting' stance you've got there , I'll give you that.
Would it be awfully forward of me to ask you to perhaps expand on exactly how you could come to this conclusion? I for one would be interested to hear.
Originally Posted by AOTB:
“Missed this but it's an 'interesting' stance you've got there , I'll give you that.
Would it be awfully forward of me to ask you to perhaps expand on exactly how you could come to this conclusion? I for one would be interested to hear.”
“Missed this but it's an 'interesting' stance you've got there , I'll give you that.
Would it be awfully forward of me to ask you to perhaps expand on exactly how you could come to this conclusion? I for one would be interested to hear.”
Sure I would elucidate. Firstly, lets get the basics right.
- Women compete with women
- Most if not all women have competed and lost
- Seeing Casey compete and lose triggers these emotions
- Lee is hated because he reminds women of the guy who choose another girl/woman over them
So there you go all summed up
Originally Posted by viduka09:
“What a load of tosh. So none of the girls in there sleep around do they? Luisa for instance...?????”
“What a load of tosh. So none of the girls in there sleep around do they? Luisa for instance...?????”
Of course and once everyone knows the score, is honest and know where they stand, thats fine. When a guy says I like you etc etc, then he is not being honest is he.Lee was not honest, He told Casey what she wanted to hear to get to first base.
Lee is wrong here, yes casey was naive but is guilty of nothing else. I think Lee is a great Hm, is not really bad, just cowardly and avoidant.. I hope he stays in a while but stop making excuses for him, the guy is a player and proud of it.
Originally Posted by Will_Loz:
“Sure I would elucidate. Firstly, lets get the basics right.
- Women compete with women
- Most if not all women have competed and lost
- Seeing Casey compete and lose triggers these emotions
- Lee is hated because he reminds women of the guy who choose another girl/woman over them
So there you go all summed up”
“Sure I would elucidate. Firstly, lets get the basics right.
- Women compete with women
- Most if not all women have competed and lost
- Seeing Casey compete and lose triggers these emotions
- Lee is hated because he reminds women of the guy who choose another girl/woman over them
So there you go all summed up
”
Some women, immature ones.
Originally Posted by Will_Loz:
“Sure I would elucidate. Firstly, lets get the basics right.
1) Women compete with women
2) Most if not all women have competed and lost
3) Seeing Casey compete and lose triggers these emotions
4) Lee is hated because he reminds women of the guy who choose another girl/woman over them
So there you go all summed up”
“Sure I would elucidate. Firstly, lets get the basics right.
1) Women compete with women
2) Most if not all women have competed and lost
3) Seeing Casey compete and lose triggers these emotions
4) Lee is hated because he reminds women of the guy who choose another girl/woman over them
So there you go all summed up
”
Firstly, thank you for the elucidation- I appreciate it. My take on it if I may-
1) I won't argue with this. although I would add the caveat that of course this isn't ALL women and is equally applicable to men competing with men also.
2) I can't really comment on this with any certainty but this also makes me suspect that you cannot either, You may have better evidence of this than I give you credit for?
3) You may be correct about some viewers/posters, but I would say that again you cannot claim this with any semblance of certainty. To me this appears to be less 'evidence' and more 'assumption'.
4) I wouldn't go so far as to say 'hated' and yet again I would say this may be true for some posters, however for me there is no way for you or indeed I to ascertain to what extent this may or may not be true.
I'm not having a go here so no offence is intended, just saying why I was somewhat intrigued at the rather bold statement from you in the original post that I replied to.
Peace.
Originally Posted by viduka09:
“Oh for heavens sake! He hardly declared his undying love for her, did he?”
“Oh for heavens sake! He hardly declared his undying love for her, did he?”
he was all over her like a rash for the first few days - hardly spoke to anyone else. He deserves the backlash and I#'d say she's been pretty good ever since he's been straight with her. As for Lee, re writing history in his own mind. I hope they show him the footage when he comes out.
Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey:
“No she hasn't; and there is an unpleasant male fantasy being expressed here, that a man should be able to take up with a pretty woman, get what physical pleasure he can out of her, then drop her instantly, publicly, without explanation and without consequences the moment a more glamorous possiblity presents herself. How convenient if no one ever had to bother about things like politeness or honour, and could only focus on their groins.”
“No she hasn't; and there is an unpleasant male fantasy being expressed here, that a man should be able to take up with a pretty woman, get what physical pleasure he can out of her, then drop her instantly, publicly, without explanation and without consequences the moment a more glamorous possiblity presents herself. How convenient if no one ever had to bother about things like politeness or honour, and could only focus on their groins.”
very well put. I wonder how the guys on here would be reacting if Jasmine had done something similar to Lee - toyed with him for a few days and then dumped him to get off with Ollie or Dappy (I know, not much chance of that, but there's not much male competition in there
)
Originally Posted by Reality Sucks:
“I wonder how the guys on here would be reacting if Jasmine had done something similar to Lee - toyed with him for a few days and then dumped him to get off with Ollie or Dappy (I know, not much chance of that, but there's not much male competition in there)”
“I wonder how the guys on here would be reacting if Jasmine had done something similar to Lee - toyed with him for a few days and then dumped him to get off with Ollie or Dappy (I know, not much chance of that, but there's not much male competition in there
)”
I can't speak for any other guys on here but if the situation were identical I'd enjoy watching her squirm too.
Originally Posted by AOTB:
“I can't speak for any other guys on here but if the situation were identical I'd enjoy watching her squirm too.”
“I can't speak for any other guys on here but if the situation were identical I'd enjoy watching her squirm too.
”
Difference is, I don't think Jasmine would be squirming
lee is one of those guys who falls in love every five minutes, but he cares what people think of him. Jasmine doesn't give a flying ****.
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