Her reason regarding the coffee was fair enough but then she said she thinks in school Luisa would "bully her relentlessly" 
what was that about? what a strange thing to say.
what was that about? what a strange thing to say.
Liz nominating Luisa
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I get what she means too. Luisa is a nasty little chav who thinks she is a far more attractive and funny then really she is.
Luisa likes to be in charge at all times. I thought Liz's reasons were quite valid, Luisa only cares about herself.
I understood what she meant. Like Luisa would be part of the "cool group" and Liz would be one of the "misfits" who the cool people mock and push around for their own amusement.
Originally Posted by Boofie:
“Her reason regarding the coffee was fair enough but then she said she thinks in school Luisa would "bully her relentlessly"
what was that about? what a strange thing to say.”
“Her reason regarding the coffee was fair enough but then she said she thinks in school Luisa would "bully her relentlessly"
what was that about? what a strange thing to say.”
I thought so too. And not just strange, unfair. Luisa may be blunt and bolshie but she was quite sympathetic towards Liz in the conversation she and Jasmine had over breakfast when they were discussing her awkwardness etc.
But then, Liz Jones is a one-woman pity party, full of petulance and victimhood and a social misfit so not really a surprise that'd she'd view Luisa in those terms.
The way Luisa was with Jason and Rebecca on The Apprentice, I'd be concerned aswell. When Luisa senses any type of weakness she tramples all over it.
I get the sense Liz is incredibly insecure and anxious all of the time. She obviously has a problem with the typical "pretty outspoken girl".
Obviously Liz would go for Luisa and quite right, maybe she thought she had to back up her reasons or maybe they kept asking her why.
well you can't blame her really the way Luisa snapped at her, she was like a Mafia boss barking her commands "never speak to me like that again" 
Originally Posted by meglosmurmurs:
“The way Luisa was with Jason and Rebecca on The Apprentice, I'd be concerned aswell. When Luisa senses any type of weakness she tramples all over it.”
“The way Luisa was with Jason and Rebecca on The Apprentice, I'd be concerned aswell. When Luisa senses any type of weakness she tramples all over it.”
Me too - her behaviour was dreadful towards him
She hasn't been that bad on BB yet but perhaps it's not so competitive.
I didn't like Luisa at all on the apprentice, but she has not given me any reason to dislike her this time.....although I would prefer not to hear about her libido.
She is straight talking and plays the game without taking herself too seriously.
I particularly liked her attitude in 'slime watch', but I understand many do not like her self-confidence.
She is straight talking and plays the game without taking herself too seriously.
I particularly liked her attitude in 'slime watch', but I understand many do not like her self-confidence.
Originally Posted by achro:
“Looks like the bully gets a taste of her own medicine, and doesn't like it!”
“Looks like the bully gets a taste of her own medicine, and doesn't like it!”
Who got what?
I imagine that Liz being deaf meant that she was in receipt of some bullying at school, and it obviously affects her whole life and how she behaves and is perceived in the BB house.
It must be hard not being able to understand a lot of what's going on in there, especially in group situations. We know this having had Sam in the house and what he had to say regarding not understanding conversations and what's going on.
I do wonder how aware they all are of Liz being deaf.
I read this interesting article yesterday "Deaf people such as Liz Jones and me want to be included in the conversation"
http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...on-big-brother
It must be hard not being able to understand a lot of what's going on in there, especially in group situations. We know this having had Sam in the house and what he had to say regarding not understanding conversations and what's going on.
I do wonder how aware they all are of Liz being deaf.
I read this interesting article yesterday "Deaf people such as Liz Jones and me want to be included in the conversation"
http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...on-big-brother
Something that I found very telling was Luisa's conversation with Jasmine about Liz. Luisa said something to the effect that she was amazed that Liz was so poor with people because, as editor of a fashion magazine, she should be able to manage and control people. I specifically noted the word 'control' - and thought it said a lot about Luisa's attitude to others. I'm sure Liz has picked up this vibe from Luisa too...
Luisa is a bully, she finds a weakness and then homes in, she was unbearable on the Apprentice and I had to switch off with about 4 weeks still to run because she ruined it for me.Far too controlling and comes across as a trouble maker too, she is a nasty piece of work imo.
Liz is ridiculous.
She called Luisa a "stupid woman" for no real reason and Luisa is just expected to take it? She wasn't even that bad she just told her that it was rude and not to speak to her like that again , which was reasonable. Liz WAS being rude , and she immediately backed down when she was challenged because she's a coward.
She called Luisa a "stupid woman" for no real reason and Luisa is just expected to take it? She wasn't even that bad she just told her that it was rude and not to speak to her like that again , which was reasonable. Liz WAS being rude , and she immediately backed down when she was challenged because she's a coward.
Originally Posted by rorybb:
“Liz is ridiculous.
She called Luisa a "stupid woman" for no real reason and Luisa is just expected to take it? She wasn't even that bad she just told her that it was rude and not to speak to her like that again , which was reasonable. Liz WAS being rude , and she immediately backed down when she was challenged because she's a coward.”
“Liz is ridiculous.
She called Luisa a "stupid woman" for no real reason and Luisa is just expected to take it? She wasn't even that bad she just told her that it was rude and not to speak to her like that again , which was reasonable. Liz WAS being rude , and she immediately backed down when she was challenged because she's a coward.”
Agree. Liz is doing what Liz does best, cynically playing the victim.
The 'timid and shy' persona she's peddling is kind of amusing though.
Originally Posted by SnowStorm86:
“I understood what she meant. Like Luisa would be part of the "cool group" and Liz would be one of the "misfits" who the cool people mock and push around for their own amusement.”
“I understood what she meant. Like Luisa would be part of the "cool group" and Liz would be one of the "misfits" who the cool people mock and push around for their own amusement.”
That's how I saw it too.
Originally Posted by WhyHelloWorld:
“I understand what she means. Luisa seems to the type to bully and Liz seems the kinda victim-type.”
“I understand what she means. Luisa seems to the type to bully and Liz seems the kinda victim-type.”
More like plays the victim type. Have you actually read any of Liz's articles? She's not exactly someone who's adverse to writing nasty and scathing things about others.
Originally Posted by snariek:
“More like plays the victim type. Have you actually read any of Liz's articles? She's not exactly someone who's adverse to writing nasty and scathing things about others.”
“More like plays the victim type. Have you actually read any of Liz's articles? She's not exactly someone who's adverse to writing nasty and scathing things about others.”
I read one where she said having her terminally ill mother stay in her home would be a "blotch on her lovely life".
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