Gmail - address not required!

kidspud · 10-01-2014, 12:58

Interesting new 'feature' being introduced into gmail.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25680010

I suppose it will at least make people more careful about who belongs in your google+ connections.

chenks · 10-01-2014, 12:58

easily turned off, non-issue.

alanwarwic · 10-01-2014, 13:15

Seemingly it all goes into your social tab.

I'm not quite sure how wide the social group algorithm is, so some might choose to wait and see before turning it off.
It is quite intrusive. If it was telephone instead, I would not mind being phoned by a friend. But for just an acquaintance it does looks spammy.

As such it is likely best to go for the off switch.

chenks · 10-01-2014, 13:18

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Originally Posted by alanwarwic

Seemingly it all goes into your social tab.

I'm not quite sure how wide the social group algorithm is, so some might choose to wait and see before turning it off.
It is quite intrusive. If it was telephone instead, I would not mind being phoned by a friend. But for just an acquaintance it does looks spammy.

As such it is likely best to go for the off switch.

which is why you get 4 options to choose from

anyone from Google+
Extended Circles
Circles
No One

really, this is a non-issue.

qasdfdsaq · 10-01-2014, 13:22

Agreed.

Other social networks allow you to be contacted by any "friends" you have on the site or publicly as well, and they also end up in your email notifications by default.

Nothing new here. Move along.

alanwarwic · 10-01-2014, 13:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by chenks

which is why you get 4 options to choose from

anyone from Google+
Extended Circles
Circles
No One

really, this is a non-issue.

Fair enough, you have it 'circled'.
Now if it defaults to 'anyone', well that would be a bit naughty.

kidspud · 10-01-2014, 13:43

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

Agreed.

Other social networks allow you to be contacted by any "friends" you have on the site or publicly as well, and they also end up in your email notifications by default.

Nothing new here. Move along.

Except this is joining social networks with email.

For example, I do not allow one of my children to have a Facebook (or any social network account) as I do not think they are old enough. I'm happy for them to have an email account which is way less interactive and people cannot search for you.

According to the article if you create a gmail account it creates a google+ account. I wasn't aware of this and I'll now have to check if it created them an account when there gmail account got created, and now look out for the update so that I can change the setting.

I'm not saying its a big issue, but it would be better if they made the default option as 'off'

qasdfdsaq · 10-01-2014, 14:07

And Facebook email isn't joining social networks with email?

I don't even see what the difference is.

You have a contact on a social messaging site. You select their name and send them an email.

You have a contact on an email site. You select their name and send them an email.

You have a contact in your phone or on an online address book. You select their name and send them an email.

swordman · 10-01-2014, 14:14

Pointless thread, no issue

kidspud · 10-01-2014, 14:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

And Facebook email isn't joining social networks with email?

I don't even see what the difference is.

You have a contact on a social messaging site. You select their name and send them an email.

You have a contact on an email site. You select their name and send them an email.

You have a contact in your phone or on an online address book. You select their name and send them an email.

Not got a clue what facebook email is?

The difference is you will no longer need to have the email address to send them an email.

kidspud · 10-01-2014, 14:26

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Originally Posted by swordman

Pointless thread, no issue

Thanks for your normal level of contribution.

chenks · 10-01-2014, 14:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by kidspud

Not got a clue what facebook email is?

everyone automatically for a facebook email address with their facebook account (username@facebook.com).

Quote:

Originally Posted by kidspud

The difference is you will no longer need to have the email address to send them an email.

you don't need to know the facebook email address either to send them an email, as it is included in the facebook messaging system.

chenks · 10-01-2014, 14:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by kidspud

Thanks for your normal level of contribution.

it is pointless though.
really is a non-issue.

anyone who doesn't like the terms of the FREE google linked services is free to delete and go elsewhere. no-one is forcing anyone to use them.

kidspud · 10-01-2014, 14:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by chenks

it is pointless though.
really is a non-issue.

anyone who doesn't like the terms of the FREE google linked services is free to delete and go elsewhere. no-one is forcing anyone to use them.

As I understand it a gmail account was not optional in order to use service which I've paid for.

alanwarwic · 10-01-2014, 15:14

"This feature is rolling out over the next couple of days to everyone that uses Gmail and Google+. You'll get an email with information and a link to the setting when the feature is available."
http://gmailblog.blogspot.co.uk/2014...re-easily.html

I would 'hazard' a guess they they will tie it into your current G+ setting.

chenks · 10-01-2014, 15:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by kidspud

As I understand it a gmail account was not optional in order to use service which I've paid for.

and which paid service is that ?

swordman · 10-01-2014, 15:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by kidspud

As I understand it a gmail account was not optional in order to use service which I've paid for.

Indeed as above what is this service you have paid for then?

chenks · 10-01-2014, 15:36

it's academic anyway, as you can still delete the google+ profile and keep the just gmail account.

kidspud · 10-01-2014, 15:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by chenks

and which paid service is that ?

All the services on my phone which make it the smartphone it claims to be.

Include the OS.

Do you think it is free?

kidspud · 10-01-2014, 16:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by swordman

Indeed as above what is this service you have paid for then?

Ah, how nice. The little boy standing at the back trying to join in with the grown ups.

kidspud · 10-01-2014, 16:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by chenks

it's academic anyway, as you can still delete the google+ profile and keep the just gmail account.

That's why I said it was no big deal. Not exactly user friendly mind.

swordman · 10-01-2014, 16:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by kidspud

Ah, how nice. The little boy standing at the back trying to join in with the grown ups.

Yeah not an answer though is it so which is the paid service? are we going to have your usual pages of avoidance and deflection, guess we will see.

chenks · 10-01-2014, 16:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by kidspud

All the services on my phone which make it the smartphone it claims to be.

Include the OS.

Do you think it is free?

i paid for the phone.
i can use the phone without a google account.

ChickenWings · 10-01-2014, 16:12

Meh, I deleted/disabled Google+. This shouldn't affect me.

swordman · 10-01-2014, 21:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by swordman

Yeah not an answer though is it so which is the paid service? are we going to have your usual pages of avoidance and deflection, guess we will see.

Guess I was right then someone deserted their pointless thread rather than answer

10-01-2014, 12:58	#1
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Gmail - address not required! Interesting new 'feature' being introduced into gmail. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25680010 I suppose it will at least make people more careful about who belongs in your google+ connections.

10-01-2014, 12:58	#2
chenks Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: North Ayrshire Posts: 11,399	easily turned off, non-issue.

10-01-2014, 13:15	#3
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Seemingly it all goes into your social tab. I'm not quite sure how wide the social group algorithm is, so some might choose to wait and see before turning it off. It is quite intrusive. If it was telephone instead, I would not mind being phoned by a friend. But for just an acquaintance it does looks spammy. As such it is likely best to go for the off switch.

10-01-2014, 13:18	#4
chenks Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: North Ayrshire Posts: 11,399	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic Seemingly it all goes into your social tab. I'm not quite sure how wide the social group algorithm is, so some might choose to wait and see before turning it off. It is quite intrusive. If it was telephone instead, I would not mind being phoned by a friend. But for just an acquaintance it does looks spammy. As such it is likely best to go for the off switch. which is why you get 4 options to choose from anyone from Google+ Extended Circles Circles No One really, this is a non-issue.

10-01-2014, 13:22	#5
qasdfdsaq Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,286	Agreed. Other social networks allow you to be contacted by any "friends" you have on the site or publicly as well, and they also end up in your email notifications by default. Nothing new here. Move along.

10-01-2014, 13:35	#6
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Quote: Originally Posted by chenks which is why you get 4 options to choose from anyone from Google+ Extended Circles Circles No One really, this is a non-issue. Fair enough, you have it 'circled'. Now if it defaults to 'anyone', well that would be a bit naughty.

10-01-2014, 13:43	#7
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq Agreed. Other social networks allow you to be contacted by any "friends" you have on the site or publicly as well, and they also end up in your email notifications by default. Nothing new here. Move along. Except this is joining social networks with email. For example, I do not allow one of my children to have a Facebook (or any social network account) as I do not think they are old enough. I'm happy for them to have an email account which is way less interactive and people cannot search for you. According to the article if you create a gmail account it creates a google+ account. I wasn't aware of this and I'll now have to check if it created them an account when there gmail account got created, and now look out for the update so that I can change the setting. I'm not saying its a big issue, but it would be better if they made the default option as 'off'

10-01-2014, 14:07	#8
qasdfdsaq Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,286	And Facebook email isn't joining social networks with email? I don't even see what the difference is. You have a contact on a social messaging site. You select their name and send them an email. You have a contact on an email site. You select their name and send them an email. You have a contact in your phone or on an online address book. You select their name and send them an email.

10-01-2014, 14:14	#9
swordman Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,342	Pointless thread, no issue

10-01-2014, 14:25	#10
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq And Facebook email isn't joining social networks with email? I don't even see what the difference is. You have a contact on a social messaging site. You select their name and send them an email. You have a contact on an email site. You select their name and send them an email. You have a contact in your phone or on an online address book. You select their name and send them an email. Not got a clue what facebook email is? The difference is you will no longer need to have the email address to send them an email.

10-01-2014, 14:26	#11
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by swordman Pointless thread, no issue Thanks for your normal level of contribution.

10-01-2014, 14:26	#12
chenks Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: North Ayrshire Posts: 11,399	Quote: Originally Posted by kidspud Not got a clue what facebook email is? everyone automatically for a facebook email address with their facebook account (username@facebook.com). Quote: Originally Posted by kidspud The difference is you will no longer need to have the email address to send them an email. you don't need to know the facebook email address either to send them an email, as it is included in the facebook messaging system.

10-01-2014, 14:28	#13
chenks Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: North Ayrshire Posts: 11,399	Quote: Originally Posted by kidspud Thanks for your normal level of contribution. it is pointless though. really is a non-issue. anyone who doesn't like the terms of the FREE google linked services is free to delete and go elsewhere. no-one is forcing anyone to use them.

10-01-2014, 14:37	#14
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by chenks it is pointless though. really is a non-issue. anyone who doesn't like the terms of the FREE google linked services is free to delete and go elsewhere. no-one is forcing anyone to use them. As I understand it a gmail account was not optional in order to use service which I've paid for.

10-01-2014, 15:14	#15
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	"This feature is rolling out over the next couple of days to everyone that uses Gmail and Google+. You'll get an email with information and a link to the setting when the feature is available." http://gmailblog.blogspot.co.uk/2014...re-easily.html I would 'hazard' a guess they they will tie it into your current G+ setting.

10-01-2014, 15:28	#16
chenks Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: North Ayrshire Posts: 11,399	Quote: Originally Posted by kidspud As I understand it a gmail account was not optional in order to use service which I've paid for. and which paid service is that ?

10-01-2014, 15:33	#17
swordman Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,342	Quote: Originally Posted by kidspud As I understand it a gmail account was not optional in order to use service which I've paid for. Indeed as above what is this service you have paid for then?

10-01-2014, 15:36	#18
chenks Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: North Ayrshire Posts: 11,399	it's academic anyway, as you can still delete the google+ profile and keep the just gmail account.

10-01-2014, 15:59	#19
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by chenks and which paid service is that ? All the services on my phone which make it the smartphone it claims to be. Include the OS. Do you think it is free?

10-01-2014, 16:01	#20
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by swordman Indeed as above what is this service you have paid for then? Ah, how nice. The little boy standing at the back trying to join in with the grown ups.

10-01-2014, 16:02	#21
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by chenks it's academic anyway, as you can still delete the google+ profile and keep the just gmail account. That's why I said it was no big deal. Not exactly user friendly mind.

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10-01-2014, 16:02	#22
swordman Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,342	Quote: Originally Posted by kidspud Ah, how nice. The little boy standing at the back trying to join in with the grown ups. Yeah not an answer though is it so which is the paid service? are we going to have your usual pages of avoidance and deflection, guess we will see.

10-01-2014, 16:09	#23
chenks Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: North Ayrshire Posts: 11,399	Quote: Originally Posted by kidspud All the services on my phone which make it the smartphone it claims to be. Include the OS. Do you think it is free? i paid for the phone. i can use the phone without a google account.

10-01-2014, 16:12	#24
ChickenWings Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,896	Meh, I deleted/disabled Google+. This shouldn't affect me.

10-01-2014, 21:35	#25
swordman Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,342	Quote: Originally Posted by swordman Yeah not an answer though is it so which is the paid service? are we going to have your usual pages of avoidance and deflection, guess we will see. Guess I was right then someone deserted their pointless thread rather than answer