[alan1302]

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Originally Posted by swordman

Guess I was right then someone deserted their pointless thread rather than answer

Can you not keep up with the thread?

He said he counts as paying for the services when he bought his phone - keep up old man!

[kidspud]

Quote:

Originally Posted by swordman

Guess I was right then someone deserted their pointless thread rather than answer

Having trouble reading again, I see.

[swordman]

Quote:

Originally Posted by alan1302

Can you not keep up with the thread?

He said he counts as paying for the services when he bought his phone - keep up old man!

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Originally Posted by kidspud

Having trouble reading again, I see.

No i am clearly having trouble here you better take it very slow so I understand.

What services that have been paid for that require a gmail account in order to make the phone a smartphone as claimed? I admit that has totally lost me, clearly you both will be able to fully explain that to me.

Every phone I have operates fully as a smartphone without without the need for a gmail account. Sorry about being so slow but if you can explain what paid for service is required to make this phone a smartphone I can rest easy.

[alan1302]

Quote:

Originally Posted by swordman

No i am clearly having trouble here you better take it very slow so I understand.

What services that have been paid for that require a gmail account in order to make the phone a smartphone as claimed? I admit that has totally lost me, clearly you both will be able to fully explain that to me.

Every phone I have operates fully as a smartphone without without the need for a gmail account. Sorry about being so slow but if you can explain what paid for service is required to make this phone a smartphone I can rest easy.

I have explained that - see my post.

Not that I agree with that but that is what was said.

[swordman]

I have seen his post, I have seen your post in which you repeat what was said. I am asking which paid for services he has paid for, an explanation of what these are, that make it a smartphone. I don't follow what is being claimed so I thought you did, do you?

[kidspud]

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Originally Posted by swordman

I have seen his post, I have seen your post in which you repeat what was said. I am asking which paid for services he has paid for, an explanation of what these are, that make it a smartphone. I don't follow what is being claimed so I thought you did, do you?

If you've seen the post and don't understand it, there is little point in explaining, it isn't even that long. You may not agree with me, but that is hardly surprising

If you want to quote the post and ask a specific question, feel free.

[swordman]

Seems to be very difficult trying to get a straight answer from you. I have quoted post and asked several times now what services have you paid for. What services that have been paid for require a Gmail account to make this a smartphone. Not sure it is that difficult for you to see where I am confused.

If you don't wish to answer or don't know then fine, we can then avoid this continual nonsense that always ensues following one of your statements.

[flagpole]

it's not a massive deal.

if someone tweets me i get an email notifying me of that. i don' see it as vastly different.

[Stiggles]

In fairness, it isn't a big deal. Like others have said, it's exactly the same as Facebook email, emails when someone messages you on Facebook, twitter etc. And since it can be turned off anyway, its' basically a non issue.

I have to admit, i get a bit worried about society if all they can do is whine about things when they can simply be turned off!!

[henrywilliams58]

Quote:

Originally Posted by swordman

I have seen his post, I have seen your post in which you repeat what was said. I am asking which paid for services he has paid for, an explanation of what these are, that make it a smartphone. I don't follow what is being claimed so I thought you did, do you?

Reading between the lines I suspect that an Android phone has been bought.

Many of the pre-loaded services are Google Account related - which of course have to be contracted for (albeit free). Google Play requires a Google Account.

Though no reason why Yahoo Mail or Hotmail or Windows Mail or whatever mail service cannot be used and Gmail per se be ignored even though generated as part of signing up for a Google Account.

I use Android because I use the Google ecosystem for almost everything.

If someone is more comfortable with Microsoft they should use Windows Surface and Nokia phones.

[alanwarwic]

I wonder how this contrasts to reporting on Snapchat.
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...php?p=70617996
Nothing is fixed apart from an opt out as far as I can see.
http://washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-...feet-on-a-fix/
So the WP is responsible enough to report it that way too.
Its pretty scary how reporting looks so irresponsible.

When the G+ feature starts it will be interesting to see if they default to 'everyone'.

[paulbrock]

as well as the controls already mentioned by several, additionally if someone you don't know contacts you, they can only do so *once*. If you never reply, they can never send you anything again through the system.

Oh the horror, I might get a single email from someone I don't want to hear from

[henrywilliams58]

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Originally Posted by paulbrock

as well as the controls already mentioned by several, additionally if someone you don't know contacts you, they can only do so *once*. If you never reply, they can never send you anything again through the system.

Oh the horror, I might get a single email from someone I don't want to hear from

Are you sure?

Surely they can send stuff to you but unless you reply they don't have your email addy?

[paulbrock]

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Originally Posted by henrywilliams58

Are you sure?

Surely they can send stuff to you but unless you reply they don't have your email addy?

yep, if someone who is not in your circles contacts you like this, they won't be able to send another message until and unless you reply to them.


http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2014/0...re-easily.html
(Note that the title is "reach people you know more easily", not "allow random strangers to send you messages" as some of the press want you to think )

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But if you don't have [the sender] in your circles, [the email] will be filtered into the Social category (if enabled) and they'll only be able start another conversation with you if you respond or add them to your circles.

[alanwarwic]

IS this a ploy to get more people joining?

I can quite imagine people signing up to G+ just to be able
adjust the settings of something they do not even have.

[Matt D]

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanwarwic

IS this a ploy to get more people joining?

I can quite imagine people signing up to G+ just to be able
adjust the settings of something they do not even have.

The setting is a Gmail setting.

[alanwarwic]

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Originally Posted by Matt D

The setting is a Gmail setting.

So go on, tell me, how will you receive when you are not in Google+

[Matt D]

You won't... this feature is for people who have Gmail *and* Google+. If you do not have Google+, you will not have a Google+ profile for someone else to contact you via.

And, as I said previously, the setting for this is in Gmail settings and not Google+ settings.

[paulbrock]

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Originally Posted by kidspud

If you want me to be more specific , the Playstore is a very good example.

you don't need to use the play store, you can use whichever app store you like. Most will require you to create a an account of some sort, as that's kinda how app stores work these days. I'm sure the phone retailer would have explained that to you if they realised how pedantic you are.

However (in a lazy attempt to bring the thread back on topic) none, including the play store, need you to get a google+ account, unless you somehow think that posting an app review on the app store without having an account is some sort of included feature of purchasing a phone.

And anyway Google+ account, Google account... there's very little between them, except one has the *option* for you to add more data to it and works with the latest Google features. Can't understand why anyone would fuss about switching from one to the other. Its like if DS rolled out new forum software and we had to 'upgrade' our forum accounts to DS Forum+ accounts. it doesn't do anything different.