Originally Posted by
Dave-H:
“With all the other huge CGI elements in that episode, it beggars belief that they wouldn't have had the time or the money to take that regeneration shot a couple of seconds further if they'd wanted to.
For Moffat to imply otherwise is just not credible.
In fact didn't he imply somewhere that they made the full transition but didn't use all of it because they weren't happy with the quality?
That's even more unbelievable I'm afraid!
No, it was a purely editorial decision, for whatever reason.
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Why is it unbelievable that the quality might not have been good enough, though? You understand that they have a limited budget and have to decide which FX shots deserve the most time and money on? Taking it a few seconds further doesn't mean it would have come out looking convincing.
Yes, it would be simple to provide a static morph to a photo of Chris Eccelston. But there's no guarantee that would end up looking convincing. In fact, I'm surprised people are even arguing the point. The very little we did have looked poor to me as it was. I remember that final shot of Hurt smiling, with the energy pouring over his face and thinking "this doesn't look nearly as good as previous regen effects. What's going on?"
Now if Eccelston had been involved in the filming, I'm sure it would have been much easier (and cheaper) to pull of the regeneration. But he wasn't, so the only options they had were to use a static image, to edit in some existing footage of him or to layer his likeness onto an animated 3D model. Of those options;
A static image would look totally unconvincing. You could pull off the morph, but it would be blindingly obvious it was a static image. Look at the multi-Doctor shot at the end of the episode for proof. They can just about pull that off because it is a long shot and they have three of the Doctors who are actually real. But study the individual other Doctors. They don't look convincing. Imagine that up close with just Eccelston's face. IT would not look good.
Existing footage might work, but equally, it could end up looking unconvincing, as it was never intended for such a scene. Particularly, if it had to be reversed, it would be noticeably weird, as reversed footage is usually quite obvious by perculiar motion.
A 3D model with his likeness overlaid could work quite effectively for a short shot. However, this would be quite a time-consuming operation and most likely far beyond what would have been available for such a short sequence.
You can't look at the FX work form the rest of the episode and then use that as proof that the FX on the regen must have been good enough. All that means is that they spent more time and money on building sequences like the fall of Arcadia. Ultimately, they might have felt that plot-important events deserved more budget than a few seconds of regen sequence - especially when doing the regen justice might have required far more work than the length of the scene deserved.
To assume Moffat just didn't think the scene was important is ridiculous. If he thought that then, one, he wouldn't have written it in the first place and two, he would have cut the entire sequence out and ended Hurt's Doctor with him simply leaving in the TARDIS.
Its actually far more convincing that everyone was telling the truth and that the FX were created and just weren't good enough to make it into the final episode.