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Dappy and Luisa have an explosive argument
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Nosaer
11-01-2014
Originally Posted by indenile:
“...based on biological realities and consequences which can't be intellectualised away (ref: Jeremy Kyle who-da-daddy? shows, etc)”

True. Genetically speaking the male is designed to spread his seed as far and wide as possible. He could impregnate many women in the time a female takes to produce one child.

Aside from that, Luisa has admitted to a sex addiction and in that case, having sex with 5 men (or women) in one night is not an emancipated act but the desperate amelioration of an unhealthy craving.
kenny7
11-01-2014
I agree with Luisa but she did an awful job of getting her point across. Just ended up being her screaming just because she could.
Peachykeen
11-01-2014
Originally Posted by SillyBillyGoat:
“I don't think she can claim any moral high ground in terms of being "rude", she's been rude to people several times both on CBB and The Apprentice. She doesn't like people being rude to her, though. I mean, she goes on about how Dappy is "rude" and "bigoted". I'm not sure how her "She's ****ing menopausal" line the other night was anything but bigoted in regards to age.

I do agree with her point about Dappy being horribly small-minded with his views towards women, but honestly I'm not a big fan of either of them.”

I thought the menopausal comment was outrageous. There she is spouting off about women and being equal in business and sexually and then comes out with a comment like that about Linda!! The girl is ridiculous.

You can only be equal if you are young I take it



As for Dappy the way I read the argument, and I'm not sure I've got it right, is that Dappy was saying a woman would be regarded worse than a man for sleeping with five people in a night but that it was wrong for both men and women to do it. Hence the man being a pig comment .

He was saying it's just the way it is, rightly or wrongly in 2014. That's why he was going on about his Mum saying there was certain things men could get away with differently to women and vice versa.

To this argument he has a point. Whilst it shouldn't matter women are definitely still not regarded as equal when it comes to sexual activity and I think that is what he was trying to say.

He's not the most articulate of housemates and I still think he is a complete numpty but on this occassion he may be right .... I will have to watch it again though
sandy50
11-01-2014
Originally Posted by Incognito777:
“Well as a neutral spectator with no emotional ties as a "fan" of either.
Louisa asked if Dappy's mum is proud of his behavior, in turn Dappy said dont bring my mum into, would you daughter be proud of your behavior.

Its a fair reply.”

Luisa played on the fact that she knows Dappy's not very articulate, but he got her with that comment as you say - and she failed to answer his question of telling everyone how many men she's had in one night, she just stood open mouthed and said nothing - she'd told the house already apparently ,and she said during their arguement "what's wrong with a woman sleeping with 5 men in one night" ---so why didn't she answer the question ?

then she just continued to shout him down and he had even more trouble getting his words out didn't he
YesNoMan
11-01-2014
Originally Posted by Phil O'Sopher:
“He punches walls and cushions in frustration at his own linguistic incompetence.”


And he's a rapper.
Peachykeen
11-01-2014
The facts are that when Evander told everyone he had 11 kids by 6 women everyone went 'wow' ... If Luiza had said she had 11 kids by 6 Men she'd be a slag .... That's the reality ... It's not right of course but it's still how it is and it's naive to think otherwise
Salv*
11-01-2014
Whoever's side people are on, you have to admit, brilliant row right there! I can't wait for tonight's show!
What name??
11-01-2014
Originally Posted by Peachykeen:
“The facts are that when Evander told everyone he had 11 kids by 6 women everyone went 'wow'”

who went wow?
SillyBillyGoat
11-01-2014
Originally Posted by WhyHelloWorld:
“When did he say men doing it are fine?

He said the complete opposite.

It appears this Queen Luisa campaign that DS has going on is blinding people to what actually happened.”

At the start, they ask if he's suggesting men are "cool" for it and he says "yes". Nothing blind about that. If that wasn't what me meant, fine, but that's what was said.

Yes, he does later say they're "pigs", but he still differentiates between pigs and slags, like he doesn't believe there are male slags. Of course there are. He even himself says that there are thinks men can do that women can't, and vice versa.

Also, it's nothing to do with the Queen Luisa thing, that's a weak defence. Luisa pisses me off, I'm not a fan by any stretch and the Queen thing makes me cringe beyond belief, but Dappy said what he said. Luisa, though, can't preach about rudeness and bigoted comments because she's guilty of both too ("she's ****ing menopausal", for example). Neither of them come out of this well imo.
Peachykeen
11-01-2014
Originally Posted by What name??:
“who went wow?”

Not literally ... Just making a point
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