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Dappy and Luisa have an explosive argument
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Odette Valmont
10-01-2014
Originally Posted by Pitman:
“Linda's uncomfortable washing-up tongue poke was a joy to watch, Ollie looks like he is going to burst into tears ”

Urgh and don't get me started on Linda's reaction. It proves what I've been saying about her all along, she's calculated! You could tell she wanted to put Dappy in his place too, but she was consciously stopping herself. After all, it would interfere with her complex strategy. She thrives on conflict. Urgh!
WhyHelloWorld
10-01-2014
Originally Posted by Abigail88:
“It's actually embarrassing that women are defending Dappy on there. Luisa's point wasn't that women who sleep with 5 or more men in one night are (or are not) 'hoes'. it was that Dappy was clearly blasting out double standards. He said when guys do it it's fine, but women are 'supposed' to behave in a certain way. I'm not saying Luisa came out of this looking like an angel but Dappy clearly thinks men can get away with it when with women it's more taboo. People are so quick to attack Luisa when she was actually in the right, she just didn't express it in the best way. And FYI not telling Dappy how many men she had slept with is perfectly reasonable - she was a sex addict for god's sake. If you had a recovering drug addict in that house and someone shouted at them 'tell the house how many drugs you did in one night' there would be an uproar. People seem to overlook sex addiction as horny people who just label themselves that as an excuse. It's a real, diagnosed addiction.”

When did he say men doing it are fine?

He said the complete opposite.

It appears this Queen Luisa campaign that DS has going on is blinding people to what actually happened.
SillyBillyGoat
10-01-2014
Originally Posted by WhyHelloWorld:
“Wait, Dappy didn't say it was just the girls that come out of it bad. He also said men are pigs if they were to sleep with 5 women in one night.

What's the problem?”

I missed that.

I heard him agree when they asked if he was suggesting men were cool for sleeping around at the start of the video, I didn't hear him then say men would come out of it bad too. I'm not disputing it by the way.
Odette Valmont
10-01-2014
You know it's depressing. The younger audience will no doubt cheer Dappy on, as he is a "LAD".
Christian Cage
10-01-2014
A lot of tongue action from Linda in this clip.
flowers786
10-01-2014
anyone notice how he said we're in 2013. lol
Abigail88
10-01-2014
Originally Posted by WhyHelloWorld:
“When did he say men doing it are fine?

He said the complete opposite.

It appears this Queen Luisa campaign that DS has going on is blinding people to what actually happened.”

Sorry i've watched video back. But my point still stands because he was strongly insinuating that women doing it was 'different' and worse than a man.
Verence
10-01-2014
Originally Posted by WhyHelloWorld:
“It comes across exactly like that.

She chose to ignore that Dappy said men would come out of it bad too, and then went on her speech about the nation agreeing with her.

What a tit.”

It seems that before the vid start he may have it was cool for men but not for women and then halfway through the vid he said it wasn't cool for men or women
WhyHelloWorld
10-01-2014
Originally Posted by SillyBillyGoat:
“I missed that.

I heard him agree when they asked if he was suggesting men were cool for sleeping around at the start of the video, I didn't hear him then say men would come out of it bad too. I'm not disputing it by the way. ”

"If a male sleeps with 5 women, what does that make him? A pig" - Dappy.

People on here are jumping on the bandwagon. Dappy is right. Nobody should be sleeping with 5 people in one night, man or woman. It's disgusting.
Panda Eyes
10-01-2014
Originally Posted by Odette Valmont:
“Urgh and don't get me started on Linda's reaction. It proves what I've been saying about her all along, she's calculated! You could tell she wanted to put Dappy in his place too, but she was consciously stopping herself. After all, it would interfere with her complex strategy. She thrives on conflict. Urgh!”


You're hilarious She was only doing the washing up for God's sake, how have you got all that from her doing the dishes? Is it the way she was wielding the brillo pad? Lolzzz
ucra girl
10-01-2014
Originally Posted by Panda Eyes:
“Luisa's very slick. Jasmine was saying the same thing as Luisa but she managed to debate it from a level playing field not up on the moral high ground where Luisa ended with her 'role model' spiel.”

Because she has admitted to sleeping with 5 men in one night.It touched a nerve.
supersnake
10-01-2014
Originally Posted by WhyHelloWorld:
“When did he say men doing it are fine?

He said the complete opposite.

It appears this Queen Luisa campaign that DS has going on is blinding people to what actually happened.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSFJA9emEcc
it's in the first 15 seconds, he not only agrees that it's fine but brands it cool.
Alrightmate
10-01-2014
Originally Posted by SillyBillyGoat:
“Wait, is Dappy really saying that guys who sleep around are cool, while women who do so are slags? Seriously? ”

Yes he is.

But you have to cut him some slack because this is 2013 and society has progressed since the bad old days.
SillyBillyGoat
10-01-2014
Originally Posted by WhyHelloWorld:
“"If a male sleeps with 5 women, what does that make him? A pig" - Dappy.

People on here are jumping on the bandwagon. Dappy is right. Nobody should be sleeping with 5 people in one night, man or woman. It's disgusting.”

Not necessarily, I'm certainly not. As I said, I didn't hear him say that, but I did hear him agree that men are "cool" for it. Seems like either he misunderstood when he said that (in which case, fair enough), or he's backtracking.

Either way, slamming Dappy doesn't equate to defending Luisa. I've said that I'm not a fan of her and I think she's a hypocrite.
Scarlett Berry
10-01-2014
Originally Posted by Abigail88:
“It's actually embarrassing that women are defending Dappy on there. Luisa's point wasn't that women who sleep with 5 or more men in one night are (or are not) 'hoes'. it was that Dappy was clearly blasting out double standards. He said when guys do it it's fine, but women are 'supposed' to behave in a certain way. I'm not saying Luisa came out of this looking like an angel but Dappy clearly thinks men can get away with it when with women it's more taboo. People are so quick to attack Luisa when she was actually in the right, she just didn't express it in the best way. And FYI not telling Dappy how many men she had slept with is perfectly reasonable - she was a sex addict for god's sake. If you had a recovering drug addict in that house and someone shouted at them 'tell the house how many drugs you did in one night' there would be an uproar. People seem to overlook sex addiction as horny people who just label themselves that as an excuse. It's a real, diagnosed addiction.”

How do you think she should have expressed it. What came accross to me was a woman, quite rightly being disgusted and indignant in finding Dappys views unpalatable, but then resorting to using the "public" will agree with me" ditrate.
She lost it for me then. She's too media savvy and whilst I love a BB player..she takes it to a bitchy. hypocritical level that I find unpalatable.
YesNoMan
10-01-2014
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“Dappy: "This is 2013 babe".”

This is the most amazing part. I bet he doesn't even hear himself getting his own argument so arse over tit. Because if he did, he might have to contemplate the possibility that he's completely wrong. Best remain oblivious then. The very personification of ignorance.

Originally Posted by SegaGamer:
“Look at the comments on that vid, why the hell are girls sticking up for Dappy ?
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There are so many idiots in this world.”

Answered your own question . Also answered the question of whether Dappy's a role model. Yes he is, he's a role model for idiots.

Originally Posted by janna:
“Luisa is SO manipulative and I dislike her intensely, but she is playing the game . She draws people in/out to say stuff then looks all wide eye and innocent when the poo flies.
However Dappy is dopey misogynist little boy and his rules play re men and women and sex just stink.”

So what you're saying is, she highlights and causes people to show what tossers they really are. She doesn't invent anything, she only works with what's there. So, especially in a short series, surely she's a brilliant housemate. Indispensible even. Hope she survives long enough to get around to Jim, as Linda's unfit for purpose.
Pitman
10-01-2014
Originally Posted by WhyHelloWorld:
“"If a male sleeps with 5 women, what does that make him? A pig" - Dappy.”

you didn't pick up Dappy's ever so subtle insinuation that a woman doing it is far far worse?
AJ_is_HOT
10-01-2014
I just can't believe Luisa slept with 5 or more men in one night.
Alrightmate
10-01-2014
Originally Posted by Abigail88:
“Dappy what an idiot. But I always hate it when people bring family into things. I am a Luisa fan though.

Although that was nothing compared to Pete Burns in CBB...after Preston 'swore on his mum's life' about something that wasn't true, Pete said 'This is Big Brother, could Preston come to the diary room. Your mother is dead'. ”

I didn't know that Pete Burns said that. Actually I think that's very funny.
BlackberryGirl
10-01-2014
Originally Posted by jeanoj:
“I think I am living in a different world! Do people on here really believe it is OK to sleep with different people 5 times in a night - whether male or female! What happened to respecting yourself. I really don't understand it.”

I think it's OK for someone else to enjoy themselves pretty much any way they want to.
Eat five biscuits, watch five telly programmes or sleep with five men. It's not my concern.
dome
10-01-2014
Originally Posted by Verence:
“That's a tonne of noms for him next time then

6.08pm: Linda is telling Luisa that she and Dappy are going to have to agree to disagree. We're not convinced..”

Shame Linda doesn't follow her own advice.

Will Linda agree that she and Jim will never see eye to eye? I thought not.



Dappy is Dappy an immature middle class 'kid' desperately trying to act 'street'. Anyone taken in is as thick as he is.
Odette Valmont
10-01-2014
Originally Posted by WhyHelloWorld:
“"If a male sleeps with 5 women, what does that make him? A pig" - Dappy.

People on here are jumping on the bandwagon. Dappy is right. Nobody should be sleeping with 5 people in one night, man or woman. It's disgusting.”

No no no!! Watch the very first part of the clip, he contradicts what he said later in the video.

Luisa says to him "You shouldn't say a man can sleep with 5 women and he's cool, and a woman can sleep with 5 men and she's a w****". Dappy then says "Yeah it is, that's true though"
Panda Eyes
10-01-2014
Originally Posted by AJ_is_HOT:
“I just can't believe Luisa slept with 5 or more men in one night.”


Didn't she say she goes or used to go to sex/swingers parties? It's highly probable then. I don't even care if she's done 100 in one night, I just don't like her telling me what to expect from role models.
Teflon Don
10-01-2014
Luisa is entitled to her opinion. But she turned a simple argument into a personal attack. Jasmine and Dappy were having a civilised debate. Dappy even apologised to her if he personally offended her. However Luisa turned it very personal calling him sexist, hating women and so on. If I'm Dappy I would avoid her like the plague in there.
supersnake
10-01-2014
Originally Posted by Odette Valmont:
“No no no!! Watch the very first part of the clip, he contradicts what he said later in the video.

Luisa says to him "You shouldn't say a man can sleep with 5 women and he's cool, and a woman can sleep with 5 men and she's a w****". Dappy then says "Yeah it is, that's true though"”

THIS!!! So many people in this thread seemed to have missed that vital part, thank you!
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