Not bs. Here, have some sources.

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stor...boykilled.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2008/10...i-at-gun-show/
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/1245407/posts

Now imagine an unguided, younger child with no recoil shield.

And for knives? Find me an example of a young child who's comitted matricide or patricide while the parent is asleep in 5 stabs or less. I'll wait. A parent does it in one.

The matter at hand is the OP's suggestion that the forum would make more fuss if Evander had said he'd stab Liz. I think that's probably true (though I doubt there'd be much fuss either way, since it's obviously a joke), and it's explained by the fact that Evander is more physically intimidating than Liz.

How is it untrue?

He pursued a career as a boxer and he's even punched an animal.

It was hardly a threat was it? Was she shouting, was she out of control, did she stand up and get in his face (although, she would need a stepladder to reach his face)? No, she was sat down with a glass of wine and made the comment without getting aggressive, did Evander look upset, hardly.

For me I believe the OP saying the forum would make 'more of a fuss if Evander said he would stab Liz', is not just probably true but an cast iron certainty.

I fully accept that no 'Evanders' were hurt or ever likely to be hurt when Liz said she would stab him.
Much like other topics that housemates may get officially warned for by BB, threats or implied threats of physical violence, even if a joke should be addressed.

When a threat of physical violence becomes acceptable to be broadcast on tv and not addressed by the show itself and excused (for whatever reason) by people who see it, and when viewers start to make allowances for only certain types of people to say they would stab someone (smaller weaker ones for example) , then it's a slippery slope..

What if the miniature Dappy said he would stab Linda? In a hypothetical unarmed fight I reckon Linda would 'have him' but again this isn't relevant.

This may surprise you but personally, I don't see it as a huge deal. A simple- 'threats of violence towards another housemate regardless of the reason will not be tolerated in the house, don't be a naughty girl again please' would have more than sufficed for me.

I agree. There was no sense of threat when Liz made the comment, which was born out by the fact that Evander was smiling at her.

A lot of people would go crazy if someone hurt their pets, I know I have, to me it seemed quite normal, it is a role of guardianship that I take seriously.

Liz has written books about her love of her horses and pets, it is her life and they are like her children and she would do anything to protect them. Evander on the other hand is a ignorant brute who punches a pregnant horse and thinks gays should be repaired and they are defective, with help and guidance from the bible!!

it is bs you have to read my original comment again. children can and do kill people with deadly weapons. in your examples you used a shotgun, and an uzi. well thats nice but i've personally witnessed supervised children probably 8 years old shooting hand guns with little trouble at all. children kill their siblings, themselves or parents and strangers with guns.

i'm afraid you havent negated my comment saying that deadly weapons used by children do kill other people. with a knife also a stab to the chest by a kid will kill either another kid or adult under the right circumstances. that cannot be disproved.

I was disgusted by what he said, it was a confession of animal cruelty and he was of the opinion that is was funny. I felt the same a Liz and would have said to him the the same on hearing such a disgusting comment. Of course i would not have stabbed him if i witnessed such a thing but i sure would have give the ignorant bully the best that i could give him and make him aware how vile his actions were.

If Evander was thrown off Liz's horse, then punched it, which made Liz stab him in retaliation, but then the horse threw a wild leg out and caught Dappy in the face, would Dappy be entitled to stab
A) The Horse
B) Evander
C) Liz
D) All three and then suicide by cop

Kids as in teenagers, yes. The original comment mentioned 5 year olds. In that specific context the only way a 5 year old could do significant damage with a weapon is through surprising the he unsuspecting, like if they were asleep. This would hardly constitute the massive amount of damage that some might advertise it as.

And a 5 year old would get knocked off their feet if they fired a real gun. It's hardly likely that they would have one made for them so they would get hold of some random gun and fire it, hit absolutely nothing because of recoil, alert everyone in. 100 yard radius and get knocked stupid by recoil. Hardly a recipe for a massacre.

Really? Ok I will happily explain why it was not true.

Your statement was- 'violence is clearly the only language Evander understands'.

He understands English at the very least-
When BB admonished him for his homophobic views(using English language as their modus operandi) he understood them. No violence was used.

Now perhaps you saw BB pop out from behind the screen and repeatedly punch him in the head whilst simultaneously giving him a chinese burn and a wedgie but I for one missed it.

All I saw was them explain the situation to him, and amazingly he he understood perfectly and accepted the warning.

Your honour, I rest my case.

I think if they pulled people up for remarks as mild as that it'd be a slippery slope towards making the show utterly anodyne. But that's definitely another issue.

The OP thinks it's irrational to react differently to a decrepit, underweight woman joking about inflicting violence on a large heavyweight boxer than if the situation were reversed. I disagree - though I'd think BB giving them a row in either case would be an overreaction.

Definitely D

Agree. This thread is a bit pathetic.

If he punched my dog, I'd stab him. Fairs fair.

Anyone can kill anyone in freak accidents or isolated incidents. Pointing to individual incidents does not prove a pattern or likelihood of regular occurrences.

It isn't likely that an 8 year old can kill someone with a knife unless it is a freak accident or a calculated act of surprise against a helpless victim. It's more likely to get raped by someone sleep walking!

And most kids would perpetrate an attack, rare as even that may be, would likely not be using a child's hand gun but would get hold of something owned by an adult with more serious kick which would not only surprise the hell out of them but would mean that they would hit absolutely nothing and completely lose the element of surprise.

Yes, technically, it is correct to say that kids can kill using knives and guns. No, it isn't likely. Out of all the murders in the USA do you know how many were committed by the 4-8 year old age range. It's something like 1 in 15,000 murders.

Lets settle this. Someone go and punch Liz's horse........

Is that the same as a donkey punch?

It was a disproportionate way of Liz getting across her view that she despised what Evander had just said.

Luisa laughed and then so did Liz.

Get over it.

Imagine the uproar if a man..any man said that to a woman on BB.

He will get a caution you will get arrested and jailed. Fair enough.

I'm sure there'd be a trial in there somewhere.

She wasn't threatening violence. It was Liz being upset and giving an exaggerated response to show that. My Mum threatened to kill me many times when I was growing up. I would never have thought of telling someone she was threatening me with violence, because I'm not completely devoid of common sense.

I agree with both.