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Luisa does not like being questioned over her sex life
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SIOPHIE_FIERCE
11-01-2014
Originally Posted by Oldnbold:
“Actually if you watch the whole clip, it was a discussion between Jasmine and Dappy, Luisa could not keep her beak out, and kept interupting and having a go at Dappy. It was never going to end in a peaceful place.”

Actually you need to go and watch the video again. Because Luisa was the first person to talk in it which means she was involved in that conversation to begin with. Dunno what you;re watching
bbfivenever
11-01-2014
Originally Posted by Oldnbold:
“I know she has been open about it. Why didn't she keep it private, that's all I am saying. WHy the need to tell the world about it. As for Dappy, he had a very valid point. Luisa said Dappy's mother should be ashamed of him. He retaliated saying that her daughter would probably not be proud of her. Tit for tat. I am not judging Luisa, all I am saying is if she had kept her sex life private, she would not be judged. I really don't understand the need to tell people how many sex partners she has had.”

Can you not get the difference in being questioned about something and being harrased and chased while someone's shouting at you?

If he'd asked her in the middle of a civil conversation, i'm sure she'd have had no issue in telling him.

The issue was with him and his double standards about how both live their life. (ie' what's good for the goose makes the gander a slag )
SpiritedAway
11-01-2014
Originally Posted by bornslippy:
“Surely she makes it the concern of others by pushing details of her sex life to the press?”

That's some very imaginative phrasing.

Makes? Pushing details in the press, ey? People make the choice freely to read press about her. The only thing Luisa has "made" is an image. The public have the liberty to follow said image and trivially concern themselves with matters that have absolutely nothing to do with them or not. The remaining housemates, aside from Liz, would say not to believe the press anyway so what's their excuse?
Oldnbold
11-01-2014
Originally Posted by bbfivenever:
“Can you not get the difference in being questioned about something and being harrased and chased while someone's shouting at you?

If he'd asked her in the middle of a civil conversation, i'm sure she'd have had no issue in telling him.

The issue was with him and his double standards about how both live their life. (ie' what's good for the goose makes the gander a slag )”

If she was the strong woman she presents herself as she should have been able to handle Dappy. The thought of Dappy harrassing me and being chased by him gives me the fit of the giggles. They both have double standards, Luisa does not like being questioned about the number of her sexual partbers. I would have preferred her to say I have slept with X number in one day Dappy - so suck it up. She didn't.
Oldnbold
11-01-2014
Originally Posted by SIOPHIE_FIERCE:
“Actually you need to go and watch the video again. Because Luisa was the first person to talk in it which means she was involved in that conversation to begin with. Dunno what you;re watching”

Where are you watching the clip?
SIOPHIE_FIERCE
11-01-2014
Originally Posted by Oldnbold:
“Where are you watching the clip?”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSFJA9emEcc
There you go
Maggie 55
11-01-2014
No, she does not like to be called loose, slag or a whore for doing what he thinks is cool for males.

If his mum tells him, when he gets out, that she has slept around in the past, which of those three words do you think he should call her?





Maggie
Oldnbold
11-01-2014
Originally Posted by SIOPHIE_FIERCE:
“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSFJA9emEcc
There you go”

Seen it - it was a discussion between Jasmine and Dappy, until Luisa decided she wanted to be involved.
SIOPHIE_FIERCE
11-01-2014
Originally Posted by Oldnbold:
“If she was the strong woman she presents herself as she should have been able to handle Dappy. The thought of Dappy harrassing me and being chased by him gives me the fit of the giggles. They both have double standards, Luisa does not like being questioned about the number of her sexual partbers. I would have preferred her to say I have slept with X number in one day Dappy - so suck it up. She didn't.”

You just don't get it. It seems funny watching him on TV but if you were with him in there and he was hounding you like that it wouldn't be as funny, he seemed quite aggressive as well. How is Luisa not liking being asked about her sexual standards showing double standards?
If she wants to talk about it she will, if not then leave her be. If she had said that Dappy would've basically called her a whore and even if she doesn't believe is, it's just not something anyone wants to hear
bbfivenever
11-01-2014
Originally Posted by Oldnbold:
“If she was the strong woman she presents herself as she should have been able to handle Dappy. The thought of Dappy harrassing me and being chased by him gives me the fit of the giggles. They both have double standards, Luisa does not like being questioned about the number of her sexual partbers. I would have preferred her to say I have slept with X number in one day Dappy - so suck it up. She didn't.”

If someone asked me a question in that manner, even if it was something simple like my name i would have told them where to go too.

Like i said, if he had asked her in the midst of a normal conversation she would have had no problem in divulging the magic number, as she does not have any hang ups in that respect.

Dappy on the other hand...
SIOPHIE_FIERCE
11-01-2014
Originally Posted by Oldnbold:
“Seen it - it was a discussion between Jasmine and Dappy, until Luisa decided she wanted to be involved.”

Wow. I give up.
TheWireRules
11-01-2014
She represents everything that is wrong with some members of the female sex today.

Why not pride herself on class and dignity instead of being a mouthy whore? How is that a good example to set?

As an heterosexual male I find it grossly unattractive when women act this way. How could you have a relationship with that?

Any decent guy would run a mile, I know I would.

There's nothing more unattractive than a woman who has no self-respect.
An Thropologist
11-01-2014
She is entitled to talk about her sex life (or not) because its her sex life. It is quite a different thing to be interrogated by someone yelling at her as he follows her from room to room demanding to know how many men she slept with.

I didn't think much of her going on about her sexual shenanigans last week. I'm not judging her for what she did or does I just find it a bit of a tasteless thing to talk about it like that to people you only recently met. But tonight she was absolutely and 100% in the right in my opinion.

Irrespective of his double standards regarding women's v men's behaviour he was obnoxious tonight and to think just this afternoon I said that I had started to warm to him. Hey Ho.
Digital Sid
11-01-2014
Originally Posted by TheWireRules:
“She represents everything that is wrong with some members of the female sex today.

Why not pride herself on class and dignity instead of being a mouthy whore? How is that a good example to set?

As an heterosexual male I find it grossly unattractive when women act this way. How could you have a relationship with that?

Any decent guy would run a mile, I know I would.

There's nothing more unattractive than a woman who has no self-respect.”

What has her gender got to do with it?
muggins14
11-01-2014
Originally Posted by bbfivenever:
“If someone asked me a question in that manner, even if it was something simple like my name i would have told them where to go too.

Like i said, if he had asked her in the midst of a normal conversation she would have had no problem in divulging the magic number, as she does not have any hang ups in that respect.

Dappy on the other hand...”

Surely he already knew the answer - five - but wanted her to repeat it because he wanted her to feel ashamed, or am I getting that wrong? I just felt that she had already said the number, which was why he was banging on.
TheWireRules
11-01-2014
Originally Posted by Digital Sid:
“What has her gender got to do with it?”

Why you bringing up her gender if you think it's not relevant?

She claims to be this strong woman who says what she thinks blah blah but she's just promoting ugly and unattractive traits. So her whole persona is baseless. She's just an insecure bitch.

A real strong woman would be quite the opposite of her.
Oldnbold
11-01-2014
Originally Posted by SIOPHIE_FIERCE:
“You just don't get it. It seems funny watching him on TV but if you were with him in there and he was hounding you like that it wouldn't be as funny, he seemed quite aggressive as well. How is Luisa not liking being asked about her sexual standards showing double standards?
If she wants to talk about it she will, if not then leave her be. If she had said that Dappy would've basically called her a whore and even if she doesn't believe is, it's just not something anyone wants to hear”

I seems thast you don't get it either. Dappy chasing me round anywhere could not hound me I would be doubled over laughing. You are totally missing my point. If Luisa had kept it quiet about how many sexual partners she has had/not had no one would be any the wiser. Why the need to tell the world.
M. Tourette
11-01-2014
Originally Posted by bbfivenever:
“Really OP? I think she's been quite open about it.

Or do you mean when someone was following her around shouting in her face to "tell me, tell me" as that's something entirely different.

Especially when said tool tried to argue that it was not the same if a man slept with 5 girls and a girl slept with 5 guys in a night (and sited the year as confirmation that his argument stood over the other )”

Isn't the argument - If a woman sleeps with five men shes a slut but if a man does it ... he's gay
bacchantic enigma
11-01-2014
They were obviously loud enough to be heard by everyone and as I was thinking why isn't someone getting in the middle of this to put a boundary between them or try and diffuse it, Linda went and stood in between them.

Regardless of their opinion differences, Luisa was clearly and unequivocally asking to be left alone.

What shocked me,was I didn't see any another man in the house think to stand by in case they were needed. Jim did eventually lead him away, but only well after the fact.
bornslippy
11-01-2014
Quote:
“The only thing Luisa has "made" is an image.”

Agreed. This is absolutely the point I sought to make.

Quote:
“ The public have the liberty to follow said image and trivially concern themselves with matters that have absolutely nothing to do with them or not.”

Agreed. Again I think you only support the point. The 'celeb' creates the image but then crumbles live on TV. Perhaps the image does not to match the 'reality' ... oh hold on ...!!!
Maggie 55
11-01-2014
Originally Posted by TheWireRules:
“She represents everything that is wrong with some members of the female sex today.”


You're an idiot.

Why don't you answer the question about what Dappy would call his Mum if it was revealed she had slept around when she was young?





Maggie
Alrightmate
11-01-2014
Originally Posted by bbfivenever:
“Really OP? I think she's been quite open about it.

Or do you mean when someone was following her around shouting in her face to "tell me, tell me" as that's something entirely different.

Especially when said tool tried to argue that it was not the same if a man slept with 5 girls and a girl slept with 5 guys in a night (and cited the year as confirmation that his argument stood over the other )”

The wrong year too.
bbfivenever
11-01-2014
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“Surely he already knew the answer - five - but wanted her to repeat it because he wanted her to feel ashamed, or am I getting that wrong? I just felt that she had already said the number, which was why he was banging on.”

As already said in this thread the '5' was just from a hypothetical situation in which Dappy stated it was ok for a man but not a woman or "slag"

At no point did Luisa divulge a number (although Dappy seemed to think she whispered it to Jasmine)
bbfivenever
11-01-2014
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“The wrong year too.”

Man now you've made me feel bad.

It's like you're trying to highlight the errors i've cited
bornslippy
11-01-2014
Originally Posted by Maggie 55:
“You're an idiot.

Why don't you answer the question about what Dappy would call his Mum if it was revealed she had slept around when she was young?





Maggie”


Errr.. did you mean to write it quite like that??!!
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