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Unbelievable...Okay I Must Be Really "Out Dated" With My Values
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icefall
12-01-2014
Amazing post op
RabidWolverine1
12-01-2014
Originally Posted by rorybb:
“I think it's perfectly reasonable to be dismayed at the absolute backward ignorance of anyone who thinks it's ok for men to sleep around but not women , or tbh , who thinks they have any right to a say on other peoples perfectly legal sex lives , I don't care if they put it all out there , it's wrong to judge people for that.”

Thank You...Yes

Originally Posted by icefall:
“Amazing post op”

Thanks, Very much appreciated
hooter
12-01-2014
Originally Posted by haphash:
“I really dislike the pressure on young women in the media and music business to look sexy. If you have talent you shouldn't need to go around in your underwear to get attention. I know this view will be considered old fashioned now but I feel that it is a step backwards.”

Nope, you`re right..it is degrading
anne_666
12-01-2014
Yes a very good post OP. Any man or womans sexual activity is their own business. It's Dappy's up bringing and lack of integrity nothing more. He is a very insecure male. Some people are the same as him and some will go to any lengths to defend their favourites. Even if it means sacrificing their own integrity in the process.
Kromm
12-01-2014
Originally Posted by RabidWolverine1:
“There are some feminists that take the literal meaning too far. For example 1 Female Feminist who I met got annoyed when I opened a door for her, because you know I only did it because she was a woman apparently. Nothing to do with that if im walking through a door and I see someone walking that way wanting to go through I will wait and hold it open for them regardless of Gender its just manners. That is taking it too far but it takes too much highlight away from the real movement of feminists.”

It echoes similar problems seen in America (and to a lesser degree in Britain) with civil rights issues with blacks. In the US especially their grievances were so incredibly deep and justified that a lot of rage over that treatment was to be expected. But assholes exist in every movement, especially ones based on strong beliefs being expressed strongly. So eventually the Al Sharpton and Louis Farrkahn types, the opportunistic assholes fueling people's anger for their own gain, appeared and declared themselves leaders. Again, this is to be expected. The saddest part isn't that people like this appear, but that another group of opportunists on the other side use it to try and discredit the entire movement. The opportunists on one side open the door for the opportunists on the other to ruin things for everyone. This is exactly what happened with Feminism too.

So the tragedy here is that ideas about basic respect for women and very general notions about equal treatment can be bundled up as "radical" simply because the idea of the Angry Unreasonable Feminist is out there in the ether.
RabidWolverine1
14-01-2014
Originally Posted by Kromm:
“It echoes similar problems seen in America (and to a lesser degree in Britain) with civil rights issues with blacks. In the US especially their grievances were so incredibly deep and justified that a lot of rage over that treatment was to be expected. But assholes exist in every movement, especially ones based on strong beliefs being expressed strongly. So eventually the Al Sharpton and Louis Farrkahn types, the opportunistic assholes fueling people's anger for their own gain, appeared and declared themselves leaders. Again, this is to be expected. The saddest part isn't that people like this appear, but that another group of opportunists on the other side use it to try and discredit the entire movement. The opportunists on one side open the door for the opportunists on the other to ruin things for everyone. This is exactly what happened with Feminism too.

So the tragedy here is that ideas about basic respect for women and very general notions about equal treatment can be bundled up as "radical" simply because the idea of the Angry Unreasonable Feminist is out there in the ether.”

Sorry I missed this reply but yes your right. It can be applied to most things if you oppose a view you can still be labeled as radical when its not the case.

Some are radical but that's the same with everything and shouldn't be generalized around it.
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