I don't like either of them but I would really hope that the public keep them in ... otherwise it'll be moan, moan, moan in a few days because there'll be nothing going on. We could, of course, all sit and watch Liz watching.

I don't get why people are saying LIZ is the horrible woman? Especially when we look and see Jasmine and Luisa are up!

Liz was favourite to go last time too - means absolutely zilch really as it is actual votes that count. I won't be surprised if she stays.

They've read her columns?

It's her job though. In my job, I get into disagreements almost every day and although I may disagree with some of the rules that are in place, I know that I look like a knob to people in other departments and I know what I have to do for my job is sometimes knobbish. I'm not a moron outside of that though, and I imagine Liz isn't either.

Not only that though, half of the hms wouldn't even be there if it wasn't for journalists like Liz! Without people like Liz, people like Luisa would be so irrelevent that they wouldn't even be on the radar, nevermind in the actual house!

Have you read her Daily Mail offerings

I haven't, but I edited my post at the same time you posted. That answers my feelings on how "bad" her articles may be.

I thought she'd have more to give. But clearly she doesn't. She's obviously only got a personality bitching behind a pen. I guess her post BB DM 'insider' pieces might be worth a scan. If only for the poison she's known for.

The difference between CBB and BB is that viewers DO have preconceptions about the housemates. Even the relatively unknown Casey is the lads mags model with all that implies.

A Daily Mail columnist is going to enter the house with massive negative baggage to overcome and a vast back catalogue of quotes to back that up. She can hardly turn that around in the house as she's barely shown.

I actually think she has changed some of the publics preception of her. I'm a huge Liz fan and I wouldn't mind if she went this eviction. The fact that she wa saved on Friday, I imagine would of meant the world to her - she thought she was going to be out first, yet she wasn't even in the bottom 2. She'll benefit from her experience in the house a lot.

Jasmine or Luisa going would at least shake up the dynamics of the house.

Which it badly needs.