I think the only people that watch BB and CBB are Digital Spy users. So that's about 100 of us. 
Bigbrother to be axed?
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Originally Posted by Derbyshire.:
“The big difference is that the trashy approach is what they aim for now not what just occurs sometimes if you cant see that then there is no hope but you are way off topic it was supposed to be about could it be axed and yes it could be but not for the reasons outlined by the daily star.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...Channel-5.html
Lets hope the new owners put things right with BB if they decide to keep it that is.”
“The big difference is that the trashy approach is what they aim for now not what just occurs sometimes if you cant see that then there is no hope but you are way off topic it was supposed to be about could it be axed and yes it could be but not for the reasons outlined by the daily star.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...Channel-5.html
Lets hope the new owners put things right with BB if they decide to keep it that is.”
Im off topic,yet your the one who brought up that it was trash since its been on 5
I just think your on a wind up,trying to get a reaction for a point you made that doesnt stand up to scrutiny.
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Originally Posted by In Arcadia Ego:
“The Star will never be able to top this one.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NjJwuWgJkD...110602star.jpg”
“The Star will never be able to top this one.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NjJwuWgJkD...110602star.jpg”
I don't think I've seen that headline before did they really publish that??
Originally Posted by StigOfTheKrump:
“Oh, I think 'DAN MAKES WOLFY'S NOSE EXPLODE' comes close.”
“Oh, I think 'DAN MAKES WOLFY'S NOSE EXPLODE' comes close.”
thank you so much I needed that laugh.
I remember that report and it basically was her snot going everywhere.
I notice that headline says "bigbrother" not Celebrity?
Originally Posted by SegaGamer:
“You know what you can both do then don't you ? switch off.
And if you have already switched off why would you be glad for it to be axed ( which it won't be ) You wouldn't be watching anyway so it wouldn't effect your lives.”
“You know what you can both do then don't you ? switch off.
And if you have already switched off why would you be glad for it to be axed ( which it won't be ) You wouldn't be watching anyway so it wouldn't effect your lives.”
It affects people who don't watch by taking up a big chunk of the tv schedule that would otherwise be used for other shows, but HMs appearing on other shows, indirectly via it's affects on BB viewers, and so on. C5 would be a better channel, and Britain would be a better place if BB and CBB were axed and this time stayed axed.
Just to point out a few facts some of those keen for this story to be true are overlooking:
1. Desmond has only sought a valuation. N&S has not announced any plans to sell Channel 5.
2. Desmond has returned Channel 5 to profit thanks, in part, to the enormous success of Big Brother.
3. Along with the aussie soaps and the Wright Stuff, BB is, internally, treated as the channel's flagship show.
4. Contracts have been signed for more BB (albeit, rumours say, with clauses based on ratings performance)
1. Desmond has only sought a valuation. N&S has not announced any plans to sell Channel 5.
2. Desmond has returned Channel 5 to profit thanks, in part, to the enormous success of Big Brother.
3. Along with the aussie soaps and the Wright Stuff, BB is, internally, treated as the channel's flagship show.
4. Contracts have been signed for more BB (albeit, rumours say, with clauses based on ratings performance)
Originally Posted by Ray_Smith:
“I think the only people that watch BB and CBB are Digital Spy users. So that's about 100 of us.”
“I think the only people that watch BB and CBB are Digital Spy users. So that's about 100 of us.
”
Perhaps you should have a look at the ratings thread.
Originally Posted by joeysneddon:
“Just to point out a few facts some of those keen for this story to be true are overlooking:
1. Desmond has only sought a valuation. N&S has not announced any plans to sell Channel 5.
2. Desmond has returned Channel 5 to profit thanks, in part, to the enormous success of Big Brother.
3. Along with the aussie soaps and the Wright Stuff, BB is, internally, treated as the channel's flagship show.
4. Contracts have been signed for more BB (albeit, rumours say, with clauses based on ratings performance)”
“Just to point out a few facts some of those keen for this story to be true are overlooking:
1. Desmond has only sought a valuation. N&S has not announced any plans to sell Channel 5.
2. Desmond has returned Channel 5 to profit thanks, in part, to the enormous success of Big Brother.
3. Along with the aussie soaps and the Wright Stuff, BB is, internally, treated as the channel's flagship show.
4. Contracts have been signed for more BB (albeit, rumours say, with clauses based on ratings performance)”
2. is at least partly wrong, because BB has not been an enormous success on C5.
3. is an uncheckable claim about what happens "internally", so it's not something available to us to overlook.
And what is the evidence for 4?
Originally Posted by Derbyshire.:
“I hope so i cant stand the gutter trash it has become.
Dick Desmond is making enquiries into selling the channel and has asked Barclays for a sale valuation so it might happen.”
“I hope so i cant stand the gutter trash it has become.
Dick Desmond is making enquiries into selling the channel and has asked Barclays for a sale valuation so it might happen.”
Gutter trash it's become? From the first day people were stripping down and clay painting the house naked. In fact BB on C4 could be a lot raunchier than its been here. Licking jam off tits, chocolate spread from cracks, romps in the pool, adventures with wine bottles etc.
I wish people would stop pretending that C5 has made BB this horribly trashy show when its always been this way. It's never been high class TV. Ultimately, the show is about people and they make the storylines.
Originally Posted by Veri:
“2. is at least partly wrong, because BB has not been an enormous success on C5.”
“2. is at least partly wrong, because BB has not been an enormous success on C5.”
It hasn't? Crikey! You better get on the blower to BARB because, clearly, they've got their figures muddled.
Big Brother has, and continues to, pull in a large audience for Channel 5 that, compared to the rest of their output, pulls in the advertisers dream demographic: the under 30s! Nothing else the channel shows (sporting events aside) touches the numbers Big Brother does. Even Bit on the Side is a respectable ratings puller - hence the decision to use the main show as a lead in for other non-BB programmes, and show BBoTS after.
The channel, its advertisers and sponsors, including those who pay for product placement, are all more than happy with the success of Big Brother. You might not be, but they are.
The Financial Times recently ran an article that includes a sober take how dependant Channel 5 is on BB:
“If you take out the effect of Big Brother [which has become one of the channel’s most watched programmes], Channel 5 would be at break-even again.”
Originally Posted by Veri:
“3. is an uncheckable claim about what happens "internally", so it's not something available to us to overlook.”
“3. is an uncheckable claim about what happens "internally", so it's not something available to us to overlook.”
It's uncheckable in that you never read the company's press releases, or pay attention to interviews in the trade press. Big Brother is something the uppers at the channel are immensely proud of. And quite rightly: Big Brother is the most consistently high-rated programme in Channel 5s 17 year history!
Originally Posted by Veri:
“And what is the evidence for 4?”
“And what is the evidence for 4?”
Industry insiders and trade press.
Now entirely sure why I'm replying. You're not convinced by facts. You're just reaching. Stop it. You'll pull something.
Originally Posted by oathy:
“http://media.skynews.com/media/image...-1-329x437.jpg
But then lets remember just because Dicky Desmond owns both
they got the relaunch of BB all wrong.”
“http://media.skynews.com/media/image...-1-329x437.jpg
But then lets remember just because Dicky Desmond owns both
they got the relaunch of BB all wrong.”
Hi oathy, wouldn't surprise me after that ultra x rated show other evening, with extras too bad to show adults. If it is axed I'll feel sad, as TV hasn't much to offer most days, and BB fills the gap of wintery weather.
Then again maybe Mr Desmond doesn't want BB any more, and put on that Xshow so that it was axed, always that to consider.
Originally Posted by joeysneddon:
“It hasn't? Crikey! You better get on the blower to BARB because, clearly, they've got their figures muddled.”
“It hasn't? Crikey! You better get on the blower to BARB because, clearly, they've got their figures muddled.”
The figures are what show it hasn't been an enormous success. It hasn't been a miserable failure either; but it hasn't been an enormous success.
Quote:
“Big Brother has, and continues to, pull in a large audience for Channel 5 that, compared to the rest of their output, pulls in the advertisers dream demographic: the under 30s! Nothing else the channel shows (sporting events aside) touches the numbers Big Brother does. Even Bit on the Side is a respectable ratings puller - hence the decision to use the main show as a lead in for other non-BB programmes, and show BBoTS after.
The channel, its advertisers and sponsors, including those who pay for product placement, are all more than happy with the success of Big Brother. You might not be, but they are.
It's uncheckable in that you never read the company's press releases, or pay attention to interviews in the trade press. Big Brother is something the uppers at the channel are immensely proud of. And quite rightly: Big Brother is the most consistently high-rated programme in Channel 5s 17 year history!
Industry insiders and trade press.
Now entirely sure why I'm replying. You're not convinced by facts. You're just reaching. Stop it. You'll pull something.”
“Big Brother has, and continues to, pull in a large audience for Channel 5 that, compared to the rest of their output, pulls in the advertisers dream demographic: the under 30s! Nothing else the channel shows (sporting events aside) touches the numbers Big Brother does. Even Bit on the Side is a respectable ratings puller - hence the decision to use the main show as a lead in for other non-BB programmes, and show BBoTS after.
The channel, its advertisers and sponsors, including those who pay for product placement, are all more than happy with the success of Big Brother. You might not be, but they are.
It's uncheckable in that you never read the company's press releases, or pay attention to interviews in the trade press. Big Brother is something the uppers at the channel are immensely proud of. And quite rightly: Big Brother is the most consistently high-rated programme in Channel 5s 17 year history!
Industry insiders and trade press.
Now entirely sure why I'm replying. You're not convinced by facts. You're just reaching. Stop it. You'll pull something.”
You haven't given any sources for some of your "facts", and others are just opinions.
Edit: I see you've added a link to a source, an article in the Financial Times (although it's behind a paywall). Anyway, what it seems to be about from what you quoted is C5's dependency on BB. C4 used to have that problem too, but eventually realised it would be better in the longer term to be rid of BB.
Originally Posted by Veri:
“The figures are what show it hasn't been an enormous success. It hasn't been a miserable failure either; but it hasn't been an enormous success.”
“The figures are what show it hasn't been an enormous success. It hasn't been a miserable failure either; but it hasn't been an enormous success.”
I'm sorry, I just fail to understand the lack of connect you're having.
It's not my job to educate you, Google and non-loaded keywords are your friend:
[LIST][*]http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s149/...channel-5.html[*]http://ft.com/cms/s/0/27d2f998-7a19-...#axzz2qKbmzl4z[*]http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/a...038128.article[*]http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...ty-big-brother[/LIST]
Originally Posted by joeysneddon:
“I'm sorry, I just fail to understand the lack of connect you're having.
It's not my job to educate you, Google and non-loaded keywords are your friend:
[LIST][*]http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s149/...channel-5.html[*]http://ft.com/cms/s/0/27d2f998-7a19-...#axzz2qKbmzl4z[*]http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/a...038128.article[*]http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...ty-big-brother[/LIST]”
“I'm sorry, I just fail to understand the lack of connect you're having.
It's not my job to educate you, Google and non-loaded keywords are your friend:
[LIST][*]http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s149/...channel-5.html[*]http://ft.com/cms/s/0/27d2f998-7a19-...#axzz2qKbmzl4z[*]http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/a...038128.article[*]http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...ty-big-brother[/LIST]”
The 1st of those articles doesn't say anything that means BB has been an enormous success. Instead, it's things like 'Channel 5 has insisted that it is satisfied with the ratings for the latest series of Big Brother, highlighting the "uplift" in consolidated viewer numbers.'
The 4th is about the (atypical) opening night ratings for the first C5 CBB.
The rest are behind paywalls.
Originally Posted by SG-1:
“This post is hilarious,gutter trash eh?
Did you ever watch BB?
BB1 had full on nudity,BB3 had a BJ,BB5 was all sexed up,BB6 had makosi shagging in a pool,BB7 had all kinds going on,BB8 had dry humping,and even past CBBs have had moments of tacky,cheesy,sleazy moments..thats the show..seems your real issue is the owner of the channel broadcasting the show.”
“This post is hilarious,gutter trash eh?
Did you ever watch BB?
BB1 had full on nudity,BB3 had a BJ,BB5 was all sexed up,BB6 had makosi shagging in a pool,BB7 had all kinds going on,BB8 had dry humping,and even past CBBs have had moments of tacky,cheesy,sleazy moments..thats the show..seems your real issue is the owner of the channel broadcasting the show.”
So many people appear to have forgotten the first ever Big Brother in July 2000.
On just the second day it wasn't just nudity, but full frontal nudity with penises fully shown, and the nudity was mixed gender too, not withstanding the naked housemates writhing in dirty brown clay all over their fully exposed naked bodies as they smeared themselves against the house walls, and we saw it all!
Yet, despite all that, it had a kind of innocence to it that the more covered up but rather crude naughty room over the weekend did not.
Originally Posted by Veri:
“The figures are what show it hasn't been an enormous success. It hasn't been a miserable failure either; but it hasn't been an enormous success.
You haven't given any sources for some of your "facts", and others are just opinions.
Edit: I see you've added a link to a source, an article in the Financial Times (although it's behind a paywall). Anyway, what it seems to be about from what you quoted is C5's dependency on BB. C4 used to have that problem too, but eventually realised it would be better in the longer term to be rid of BB.”
“The figures are what show it hasn't been an enormous success. It hasn't been a miserable failure either; but it hasn't been an enormous success.
You haven't given any sources for some of your "facts", and others are just opinions.
Edit: I see you've added a link to a source, an article in the Financial Times (although it's behind a paywall). Anyway, what it seems to be about from what you quoted is C5's dependency on BB. C4 used to have that problem too, but eventually realised it would be better in the longer term to be rid of BB.”
C4 was for a long time a little embarrassed about their reliance on BB because of their internal culture stemming from their public service remit. In the early days they were quite happy to see it as a social experiment that just happened to be popular, but certainly following BB5 the attitudes of those at the top appeared to change a bit more.
It always felt that following the Shilpa situation they felt financially tied to the show but it wasn't something they really wanted on their schedules at all anymore.
You can say what you want about C5s handling of the show, but at least they embrace it...
Why would BB be axed over the amount of sex in the show? It's done wonders for ratings, and on average this surely must be one of the best Big Brothers (rating wise) since it's been on C5?
The Daily Star is always over hyping the events on Big Brother (and it is because C5 is a sister to publications like the Daily Star / Express / New! / OK that Big Brother will not get the same sort of "promotion" it enjoyed in the early c4 days in the Sun, Mirror, Mail, Heat etc. They clearly do not want to promote something that then promotes their competition.
The Daily Star may even have been more accurate with its headlines when it was briefly merged with the Sunday Sport
The Daily Star may even have been more accurate with its headlines when it was briefly merged with the Sunday Sport
Yep its the Normal Daily star bull plops.
Basically just getting a pair of big boobs on front page and "SEX"
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/tv/big-br...-rated-scenes-
Basically just getting a pair of big boobs on front page and "SEX"
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/tv/big-br...-rated-scenes-
Originally Posted by Dix:
“Hi oathy, wouldn't surprise me after that ultra x rated show other evening, with extras too bad to show adults. If it is axed I'll feel sad, as TV hasn't much to offer most days, and BB fills the gap of wintery weather.
Then again maybe Mr Desmond doesn't want BB any more, and put on that Xshow so that it was axed, always that to consider.”
“Hi oathy, wouldn't surprise me after that ultra x rated show other evening, with extras too bad to show adults. If it is axed I'll feel sad, as TV hasn't much to offer most days, and BB fills the gap of wintery weather.
Then again maybe Mr Desmond doesn't want BB any more, and put on that Xshow so that it was axed, always that to consider.”
Hi Dix
Pretty sure he will sell it but not at the 700 million he wants. theres also talk his health lottery wants to be bought out by some Canadian Equity firm.
Originally Posted by StigOfTheKrump:
“Oh, I think 'DAN MAKES WOLFY'S NOSE EXPLODE' comes close.”
“Oh, I think 'DAN MAKES WOLFY'S NOSE EXPLODE' comes close.”
Ah happy days- roll on summer
Originally Posted by Dix:
“Hi oathy, wouldn't surprise me after that ultra x rated show other evening, with extras too bad to show adults. If it is axed I'll feel sad, as TV hasn't much to offer most days, and BB fills the gap of wintery weather.
Then again maybe Mr Desmond doesn't want BB any more, and put on that Xshow so that it was axed, always that to consider.”
“Hi oathy, wouldn't surprise me after that ultra x rated show other evening, with extras too bad to show adults. If it is axed I'll feel sad, as TV hasn't much to offer most days, and BB fills the gap of wintery weather.
Then again maybe Mr Desmond doesn't want BB any more, and put on that Xshow so that it was axed, always that to consider.”
'Ultra X rated'? I hope that was sarcasm. I hope your whole post was sarcasm. That show was not 'ultra X rated'. The so-called 'extras' don't exist, nothing but transparent tabloid hype. The show won't be axed because of it, the are MUCH more explicit things on TV than that. Desmond does want BB because it's the only thing that pulls high ratings for C5. You're talking about a story in the Daily Star.
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