[Everything Goes]

Its end of support for the HTC One X and One X+ HTC has just said users on both phones will be stuck on Android 4.2.2

http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/13/53...ndroid-updates

[enapace]

A pity it still shows Android fragmentation is alive google had been hoping 4.4 would help alleviate this problem. Looks like you can't even get 18 months of updates anymore.

[BT@home]

These official updates are slow to come through anyway. My galaxy note has been running the latest versions since a couple of days after each release.

If your warranty has run out and your happy with rom flashing then there is no need to be upset about it, it's given a new lease of life to my Note and have converted the wife's one now (almost like a new phone to her now)

[konebyvax]

Simple solution. Buy Motorola or Nexus from now on (the £99 Moto G is already on Kit Kat!). These high end Android phone manufacturers really are shooting themselves in the foot right now.

[rosetech]

This is why HTC are stugggling - updates pure and simple.

Either stop releasing some many phones or support them for at least two years.Its a shame as HTC make really nice phones but lack the capacity/will to provide support them.

[finbaar]

The phone wont stop working you know. Most normal people wont even know that 4.2 is two versions behind.

[alan1302]

Quote:

Originally Posted by finbaar

The phone wont stop working you know. Most normal people wont even know that 4.2 is two versions behind.

Most people won't even know what version they have!

[finbaar]

Quote:

Originally Posted by enapace

A pity it still shows Android fragmentation is alive google had been hoping 4.4 would help alleviate this problem. Looks like you can't even get 18 months of updates anymore.

Here is your question:

Was project svelte, initiated in Android 4.4, introduced to:
1.Allow low spec’d phones with as little as 512mb of RAM to run it smoothly and help to ensure manufacturers didn’t release NEW devices with 2.3 or 4.0?
2.Allow manufacturers to update all their legacy hardware?

I’ll give you a clue, it isn’t answer 2.

[Anika Hanson]

Ridiculous. Didn't the HTC one X start out with ICS? So basically it got one major update and that's it. I'm glad I'm out of the android update lottery.

[enapace]

Quote:

Originally Posted by finbaar

Here is your question:

Was project svelte, initiated in Android 4.4, introduced to:
1.Allow low spec’d phones with as little as 512mb of RAM to run it smoothly and help to ensure manufacturers didn’t release NEW devices with 2.3 or 4.0?
2.Allow manufacturers to update all their legacy hardware?

I’ll give you a clue, it isn’t answer 2.

Do have a good point I was just saying it should of made easier. One thing I like about iOS is the fact you are going to get updates for a while. But as you say can't expect companies with a lot of devices to keep updating them.

[corf]

Quote:

Originally Posted by enapace

But as you say can't expect companies with a lot of devices to keep updating them.

I don't agree, the HTC One X was the HTC flagship released less than 2 years ago, plenty of people will still be in contract and HTC abandoned updating it after only 18 months. The X+ will only receive 12 months of updates....

The hardware is certainly powerful enough to run kitkat and sense 5. HTC are letting their customers down.

[huwdw]

Are any Tegra 3 devices getting 4.4?

[corf]

Quote:

Originally Posted by huwdw

Are any Tegra 3 devices getting 4.4?

2012 Nexus 7 already has it.

[rosetech]

Quote:

Originally Posted by finbaar

The phone wont stop working you know. Most normal people wont even know that 4.2 is two versions behind.

Not really the point if they know or not. HTC are damaging their own reputation and this quite rightly leads to people not trusting them enough to buy their products. (Irrespective of how good they are).

[swordman]

The phone is two years old now and came with what 4.03? It will still be perfectly good for another year or two so I can't see any problem dropping updates for this after 4.2.2

[qasdfdsaq]

Quote:

Originally Posted by corf

I don't agree, the HTC One X was the HTC flagship released less than 2 years ago, plenty of people will still be in contract and HTC abandoned updating it after only 18 months. The X+ will only receive 12 months of updates....

The hardware is certainly powerful enough to run kitkat and sense 5. HTC are letting their customers down.

Then again, the Galaxy S II hasn't received any updates beyond 4.1, so that just got about two years of updates as well. That said it was released with 2.3 so 4.1.2 is quite a long way to have come.

Then again Galaxy S3 released shortly after the One X is due to get at least 4.4 though so HTC is really failing on the updates.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rosetech

Not really the point if they know or not. HTC are damaging their own reputation and this quite rightly leads to people not trusting them enough to buy their products. (Irrespective of how good they are).

Agreed. Between that, and the whole debacle with the HTC Desire and Gingerbread, HTC have lost a lot of confidence among some very vocal power users.

[Anika Hanson]

It's just not acceptable. Samsung probably do the best. You seem to get at least 2 major updates. You are not even guaranteed much with nexus devices. Look at the galaxy nexus. It was released with ics and only went as far as jellybean (4.3). It's not getting kit Kat. It seems as though apple devices are supported for longer. You get 3 updates.

[niceguy1966]

Quote:

Originally Posted by rosetech

This is why HTC are stugggling - updates pure and simple.

As has already been mentioned, most people don't know what release they are on, what the current release is or what the difference is.

Whatever HTC are doing wrong, supporting devices for longer isn't the whole solution.

[rosetech]

Quote:

Originally Posted by niceguy1966

As has already been mentioned, most people don't know what release they are on, what the current release is or what the difference is.

Whatever HTC are doing wrong, supporting devices for longer isn't the whole solution.

As already mentioned - not really the point. Loss of reputation is a gradual thing. Leaving customers high and dry on any generation of Android is a sure way to gain a negative consumer experience.Negative experiences have a far stronger impact on sales than positive. For me, based on my negative experience I would never recommend a HTC phone on this basis - I suspect this is similar for a lot of previous HTC users as alluded to in an earlier post.

Quote:

Agreed. Between that, and the whole debacle with the HTC Desire and Gingerbread, HTC have lost a lot of confidence among some very vocal power users.

[niceguy1966]

Quote:

Originally Posted by rosetech

As already mentioned - not really the point. Loss of reputation is a gradual thing. Leaving customers high and dry on any generation of Android is a sure way to gain a negative consumer experience.Negative experiences have a far stronger impact on sales than positive. For me, based on my negative experience I would never recommend a HTC phone on this basis - I suspect this is similar for a lot of previous HTC users as alluded to in an earlier post.

I still think you are living in a geek bubble that the vast majority of people have no exposure to. "Very vocal power users"? Unless they are speaking on Corrie or Eastenders, they aren't heard by most HTC customers. If a user has no idea that a new Android version has been released, they will have no "negative experience" being on a previous release. The phone does what its always done.

As a long time HTC customer since the HTC Legend (and maybe a bit of a fanboy), the quality of their hardware and the ease of use from HTC Sense is very appealing and I will certainly consider HTC when I make my next change (Although Sony is also on the short list when I can play with the Sony Z1 Mini).

[Everything Goes]

Quote:

Originally Posted by enapace

A pity it still shows Android fragmentation is alive google had been hoping 4.4 would help alleviate this problem. Looks like you can't even get 18 months of updates anymore.

Indeed 4.4 KitKat is supposed to be optimised for lower speced devices.

Apple are way better at this sort of thing. The iPhone 3GS didn't get iOS 7 but it fared quite well given it was released in 2009 and wont get any updates beyond iOS 6.1.3 (March 2013).

[Anika Hanson]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everything Goes

Indeed 4.4 KitKat is supposed to be optimised for lower speced devices.

Apple are way better at this sort of thing. The iPhone 3GS didn't get iOS 7 but it fared quite well given it was released in 2009 and wont get any updates beyond iOS 6.1.3 (March 2013).

I agree. It's disgraceful when you have the iPhone 4, which was released in 2010 running the latest iOS. Yet the HTC one X, released 2 years later is running 2 versions out of date software and will not be updated any further.

[flagpole]

what are you missing really.

most of the changes are 'support for...' and stuff that the one X doesn't have or the support was added by HTC already.

other than that it's mostly stuff overridden by sense anyway.

[WelshBluebird]

Just a point, the One X+ is less than 16 months old. Didn't google say quite a while ago they were trying to get manufacturers to give 18 months worth of updates?

Although I guess for those who care, you have custom roms.

[Everything Goes]

Here are a few articles about Android updates fragmentation:

http://www.howtogeek.com/179638/not-...device-anyway/


The current state of play:

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/android-4-4...s-when-1432303