The real Jim is in there, just because he isn't living up to 'type' as a lot have hoped for an expected, doesn't mean he isn't real. He's obviously doing his utmost under extreme provocation and doing very well as it happens.

Linda has been on his case from day one, and tonight she could hardly believe her luck when she got the chance to cry.

So .....you really and truly think the 'ask her about Frank Carson's dressing room?' comment was just a throwaway remark. He is a cruel man - he knows full well that whatever happened that night has stirred up something traumatic. That wasn't accidental .......that was calculated and cruel.

Look - I liked Linda until tonight. However, she likes to stir things up with him as much as possible, then he retaliates and/or tries to talk things out and she tells him to go away, then she starts whispering to the girls about him when he's still in the room... so he comes back over to try to talk to her again and again, she shuts him down and stops her trash talking until he's out of earshot. Her behavior on tonight's show was downright manipulative and pathetic.

I don't dislike the lady, but if I had to weigh in on who I thought was the bigger jerk in THIS particular circumstance -- Linda would win hands down....without question.

It's not about Frank Carson, it's about and argument that happened in his dressing room.

It sounds like she and Frank got it on in Frank's dressing room, when she was married. She is crying due to her own guilt.

TBH, I didn't see anything wrong with him asking Luisa if it bothered her that she didn't have a man. Linda jumped in in some sort of overprotective way as though he'd accused Luisa of some heinous crime.

Linda then misheard him. He didn't call her an arsehole, I've just played it back.

Then Jim blotted his copybook by saying to Luisa "Ask her about Frank Carson's dressing room". Then denying it later. Now I just want to know what happened in Frank Carson's dressing room.

Linda is not coming across well. She shouldn't let Jim wind her up.

According to the Nolan's Official Site, Brian was filmed stealing money from Frank Carson's dressing room

EDIT: Sorry this is on Denise Nolan's site.

No, the arsehole bit was wrong.

He told his garden gnomes that he asked Luisa about her hubby . No he didn't. What he did was snipe at Luisa saying single motherhood was great fun with a dig about aincha got a man then ?

And he totally denied the Frank Carson remark then had to back track furiously. He is a liar and has shown himself up. Good for Linda confronting the fool.

Hello How ya doin'.

Good comparison there kewps. Spot on.

No ,she is crying because it involved two dead men. neither of whom are around to comment and he was 100% wrong .

Frank did nothing wrong in the scenario being referred to.

He's a miserable little weasel of a man.

She's been baiting him from the off. Using one incident in the past as an excuse to turn as many against him that she can. Just as she nastily attacked Julie Goodyear's poor husband on BBOTS to justify Colleen's similar pattern of victimhood in the house that year.

Again Julie had offended Linda once...sometime in the distant past, she has a history of carrying a grudge over one off incidents and turning it into the drama of the century in order to further hers and her sister's otherwise pointless tv careers.

Even Jim wouldn't agree with that. He's admitted himself that he's been trying extra hard to keep his real self covered up.

very true. He couldn't resist going back into the kitchen knowing that she was already annoyed with him.. Winding her up gives him something to do. However. She came across worse because she seemed to be wanting to have a go at him when he was asking Luisa about her life. Of course we have no idea of the full story because we have no LF.

I'd say in that bout it was Jim 3 - Linda 1

We're doing great All clear here and starting a new year with a big grin

We've seen all this before CC....Denise Welch, Colleen Nolan...there's a pattern to this and it's not a pretty one.

Absolutely. I get that very vibe from her. Well summed up Kewpee.

She keeps picking away and picking away, sooner or later you will get a reply you don't like and she got it tonight.

For those who seem they know he did or didnt call her an arsehole,you all need to take into account nobody here knows because it was not live and unedited footage we saw.
He may have said it as we heard it on the show or he may well have said it and it was not shown,its exactly the same when lee got knocked back on his reason to nominate sam..editing as most of you should know can create a completely different picture to events that took place because context is everything.

We did see Jim lie about what luissa said though so we do know he has lied at least once..but as long as they entertain i could care less..its hms like Liz that are completely redundant to the show who should leave on friday.

Quite. I'm angry with Linda for making Jim look good. He is a horrid guy but her unreasonable behaviour is making him look good.

That's part of who he is too. He hasn't swapped bodies or minds, he's simply doing what most normal people do and moderating his actions and words according to the situation. It's called being human.

Sounds like you're fabricating nonsense stories in order to slag Linda off.

i totally agree. i'm not crazy about either of them but jim certainly came off as a stirrer, a liar and a coward in that exchange.

To me its no biggie, they were arguing and one inuslting word was confused with another. But bringing up an obviously sensitive story about Lindas husband is a big deal - it would have been below the belt even it had been brought up among a group of people...but to bring it up deliberately (it didn't come up in conversation) when you know you're on national TV is really malicious and nasty

We saw him admit that he told Louisa though, on the second asking. So he didn't flatly lie and stick to it. We don't know the time lapse between him asking Louisa and him being questioned on it. He'd had a couple of drinks in between it seems.

He did tell Luisa to ask about Frank Carson and then claimed that she had it wrong. It's what the man does. He makes innuendo, but doesn't full out say anything as to not be implicated. But this time he made a mistake and Luisa, quite deliberately I believe, took his words at face value and used it against him. I'm usually for Jim when he's arguing with Linda because she does jump down his throat as per earlier when she misheard him call her an "arsehole" and pounced on his (admittedly, loaded but that's what Jim does; he's antagonistic) question about a having a man to Luisa. But the whole Frank Carson mess was a right mess and his backpedaling shows he even thought it was too far.