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Jim Is Suppressing His real Personality.
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Dan_Brown
16-01-2014
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“How do you know that? From a few heavily edited minutes out of each day?”

We've seen it for weeks. Today is yet another example of this. She started arguing with him after he asked luisa "do you not miss a husband?" It was a completely fair question.
Flubber.
16-01-2014
My other half and a few of my friends all work for a hotel who have had the unfortunate reality of having jim Davidson stay a few times over the years and have described him as the most vile and rude guest they've ever had to serve to the point that they threatened to all call in sick the nights he was due to stay when he was touring, this wasn't that long ago.

That sticks in my mind when I watch this show and the fact they have a pool going at work for when he finally snaps and shows how nasty he can be to people he deems below him.
Scarlet O'Hara
17-01-2014
Originally Posted by BlackberryGirl:
“He's even stated it about himself in there.”

So did his mate Linda Lusardi on BBOTS. I liked her, she seemed really nice, and she said that she marvelled at his self control because "he would have blown up on the outside".

Which isn't to say I think he's acting 24/7, he's often warm and caring, but he's also playing a blinder in there. Until tonight that is. Dropped the ball there and showed his legendary nasty streak.
Kewpee
17-01-2014
Originally Posted by Daisy Bennyboots:
“Hasn't he just kicked drugs? Maybe he has changed - people do change, it's possible.”

He spent last year awaiting the outcome of accusations against him re operation Yew Tree. The charges were dropped because there was no evidence.

That could not have been easy and it does change you as a person.

I've had a pretty stressful year myself and I am not exactly the same person I was a year ago.

He may not have changed completely, but he may be trying to. Does that make him false or redeemable?
Sun Tzu.
17-01-2014
Originally Posted by AndrewPd:
“Evander didn't repress his opinion. We heard what he said and Luisa had to warn him.

Jim looks like he is doing everything possible not to directly do anything confrontational but occasionally dropping snide comments.

And on other occasions he purses his lips and strides out to the garden for a cigarette session.”

Yes he did because he didn't say it again. That is my point. You can't just say what you want.
Kewpee
17-01-2014
Originally Posted by Flubber.:
“My other half and a few of my friends all work for a hotel who have had the unfortunate reality of having jim Davidson stay a few times over the years and have described him as the most vile and rude guest they've ever had to serve to the point that they threatened to all call in sick the nights he was due to stay when he was touring, this wasn't that long ago.

That sticks in my mind when I watch this show and the fact they have a pool going at work for when he finally snaps and shows how nasty he can be to people he deems below him.”

Fair enough, evidence from friends. I've read a lot of evidence from people on here about a Jim that has gone out of his way to support and entertain British troops abroad and not always in the safest of places.

I suppose it depends on who you know and who you believe...as always.
Stellen11
17-01-2014
He is too scared to be more forthright in his opinions, i guess because he knows he might blow his top and go too far. This makes him boring to watch at times. Like when linda was having a go at him in the smoking area about FCDRoom and jim just took it.
vpower
17-01-2014
Originally Posted by Kewpee:
“Fair enough, evidence from friends. I've read a lot of evidence from people on here about a Jim that has gone out of his way to support and entertain British troops abroad and not always in the safest of places.

I suppose it depends on who you know and who you believe...as always.”

I've read a lot of posts that tell us about his troops work. It is great that he does this, but that does not mean he is not an a**ehole in other areas of his life.

See Operation Yewtree for evidence

Disclaimer, I am not saying Jim is a paedophile am just saying he may be a charitable a**ehole
clara28
17-01-2014
Originally Posted by Kewpee:
“Fair enough, evidence from friends. I've read a lot of evidence from people on here about a Jim that has gone out of his way to support and entertain British troops abroad and not always in the safest of places.

I suppose it depends on who you know and who you believe...as always.”

I believe Jim's own account of beating his wife to be true.
Kewpee
17-01-2014
Originally Posted by vpower:
“I've read a lot of posts that tell us about his troops work. It is great that he does this, but that does not mean he is not an a**ehole in other areas of his life.

See Operation Yewtree for evidence

Disclaimer, I am not saying Jim is a paedophile am just saying he may be a charitable a**ehole”

Jim was not charged because there was no evidence. If there was one shred, one iota, he would've been charged. It's totally unfair to cite anything to do with that IMO and lower than anything he is being accused of in the house.
Kewpee
17-01-2014
Originally Posted by clara28:
“I believe Jim's own account of beating his wife to be true.”

So do I. I also believe that people can learn and change. I have no doubt that it takes effort and is not always faultless, it's a work in progress, but if someone is showing effort then good on them.
Truth Teller
17-01-2014
Well according to Linda Lusardi - a friend of his for over 20 years - he isn't being himself. He is usually funny, on good form, kind etc. the person she is seeing is struggling, unhappy and not the person she knows.

So it looks like he is surpressing his personality.....
clara28
17-01-2014
Originally Posted by Kewpee:
“So do I. I also believe that people can learn and change. I have no doubt that it takes effort and is not always faultless, it's a work in progress, but if someone is showing effort then good on them.”

I hope he's working on the racism and homophobia too.
Monty_Brewster
17-01-2014
Yes he is, speak to people in TV, they'll tell just how vile a man he really is.
Kewpee
17-01-2014
Originally Posted by clara28:
“I hope he's working on the racism and homophobia too.”

Looks like it.
clara28
17-01-2014
Originally Posted by Monty_Brewster:
“Yes he is, speak to people in TV, they'll tell just how vile a man he really is.”

The only good stories I've ever heard about Jim Davidson relate to his entertaining the troops, which I'm sure for a blokes bloke like him is his ideal setting, up on stage getting whooped and cheered by a ton of soldiers, the element of danger.

But otherwise people never seem to rave about him much. Quite the opposite.
vpower
17-01-2014
Originally Posted by Kewpee:
“Jim was not charged because there was no evidence. If there was one shred, one iota, he would've been charged. It's totally unfair to cite anything to do with that IMO and lower than anything he is being accused of in the house.”

You must have missed my disclaimer saying that I was NOT saying Jim was a paedophile. My reference to Yewtree was pointing out that noted charitable men, ie, Jimmy Saville, are accused paedophiles. To explain, people do some great things but does not mean they don't do horrible things too


Jim is not a paedophile, he is just an a**ehole, in my opinion!

Hope that clears things up
anne_666
18-01-2014
Originally Posted by Dan_Brown:
“We've seen it for weeks. Today is yet another example of this. She started arguing with him after he asked luisa "do you not miss a husband?" It was a completely fair question.”

Seen what for weeks? A few minutes out of the two weeks they've been in there? Why has Jim had 13 noms and Linda 2? The people who have experienced more than a few minutes of an edited show obviously disagree with you.
4me2
18-01-2014
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“And a cowardly wife beater. I would like to see him treat a man the same way!”

Unless he comes out as gay that isn't going to happen is it ?
Trinculo
18-01-2014
Originally Posted by AndrewPd:
“I am reading his body language and analysing his comments.”

Then why don't you list examples and make a case for your assertion. What is obvious to you might not be so to other people.
Fried Kickin
18-01-2014
Originally Posted by AndrewPd:
“I am reading his body language and analysing his comments.”

You are Judy James and I claim my £5
B L Zeebub
18-01-2014
Originally Posted by Kewpee:
“Jim was not charged because there was no evidence. If there was one shred, one iota, he would've been charged. It's totally unfair to cite anything to do with that IMO and lower than anything he is being accused of in the house.”

From - http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/423...-investigation

A Crown Prosecution spokesman said: "All the complaints have been reviewed in accordance with the Code for Crown Prosecutors and the CPS legal guidance on rape and sexual offences.

"We have determined that there is insufficient evidence for a realistic prospect of conviction in relation to all complaints and have advised the Metropolitan Police Service that no further action should be taken."


Insufficient is not the same as not "one shred, one iota".
ScreamingTree<3
18-01-2014
I think it's fair to say that Linda Knew Jim, but she does not know him now and in the end in his day his views were acceptable so a a big chunk of that generation had to adapt to the changes in society.

People can and do change or we wouldn't be as 'accepting' to all different ways of living and being.
ScreamingTree<3
18-01-2014
Originally Posted by Monty_Brewster:
“Yes he is, speak to people in TV, they'll tell just how vile a man he really is.”

was. You mean Was. People can change.
Oracles_eye
18-01-2014
Like I have stated on all the other threads and posts in this subject this is my £20 worth.

To survive in this world the majority hide their true self, wear mask, behave and say things only to certain people in certain situations.

If I said what was on mind or acted out my thoughts I would be serving a prison sentence of such magnitude I would never be free.

Say I didn't like a particular ethnic group, went into an area populated with that particular group and approached people and said offensive things, engaged them physically and then was attacked by a group of them and died, then more fool me.

Evander was warned for his remarks, I personally wasn't offended I just felt sorry for him and his lack of education in the subject he brought up.

If Evander had made the comment and backed it up with information, possibly research that backed it up, a study of 100,000 homosexuals where 75% were "cured" as it is only a choice. Then he may of had a point.

But as we know you don't really have a choice on what you find attractive.

A man on a program I watched had sexual and emotional feelings for his car? Is he wrong? In my view no as he isn't harming anyone.

Paedophiles are sexually attracted to children, in this country those under the age of consent.

That to me is wrong to act upon as it imposing yourself onto someone who can't make the decisions for themselves.

But then at what age are you legally responsible for your actions?

Up until Victorian times there was no real age of sexual consent, laws as I understand it were brought into place to stop child prostitution.

In certain cultures in the past it was socially acceptable to have a wife and have a young boy to have sex with.

Ancient Egypt you could have sex with your mother father sister or brother and have their children.

It all comes down to what is socially acceptable.

Jim's views are not widely socially acceptable so yes he needs to hide his true views as he would be in a whole load of trouble.

Sorry for the ranting post.
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