Originally Posted by Sun Tzu.:
“He actually ended up admitting what he said.”
“He actually ended up admitting what he said.”
He lied to Luisa.
Jim, the absolute liar!
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Originally Posted by Betty Britain:
“Linda was spoiling for a fight ...that was obvious by her jumping down Jims throat when he asked an innocent question to Luisa ... Who wasn't upset by his question until Linda interfered”
“Linda was spoiling for a fight ...that was obvious by her jumping down Jims throat when he asked an innocent question to Luisa ... Who wasn't upset by his question until Linda interfered”
exactly linda was spoiling for that fight , and in fact had she not jumped Luisa was just abut to answer the question she wasn't upset at all by the question it was part of a reasonable conversation that was taking place
and all this Luisa and i call it Jim-isms "DONT WE Luisa" comment was to make it sound like she hadnt done anything wrong
what a horrible woman Linda is and to use others to argue with Jim proved that last night
Originally Posted by Sun Tzu.:
“He said yeah he did say it to Luisa.”
“He said yeah he did say it to Luisa.”
No he did NOT. He said "did I?" when Luisa told him what he'd said to her in the kitchen area.
Originally Posted by zx50:
“After talking to Luisa about Linda, Jim told her to ask Linda about Frank Carson's dressing room. Then, after Luisa told him in the bedroom in front of the others that he told her to ask Linda about this, he then blatantly lied and told her that he said "what about Frank Carson's dressing room?". That's not what he said, he definitely told her to ask Linda about Frank Carson's dressing room. He's definitely trying to stir up trouble in there. The way he said "did I?" to Luisa in the bedroom showed that he was trying to let Luisa know that he knew he was lying as he said it.”
“After talking to Luisa about Linda, Jim told her to ask Linda about Frank Carson's dressing room. Then, after Luisa told him in the bedroom in front of the others that he told her to ask Linda about this, he then blatantly lied and told her that he said "what about Frank Carson's dressing room?". That's not what he said, he definitely told her to ask Linda about Frank Carson's dressing room. He's definitely trying to stir up trouble in there. The way he said "did I?" to Luisa in the bedroom showed that he was trying to let Luisa know that he knew he was lying as he said it.”
Yes, he lied and tried to backtrack and rewrite history.
My opinion is that that was the point when he really regretted what he'd said to Luisa, as he knew it had opened a can of worms he couldn't close, hence his fumbling backtracking and denying what he'd said. But, having since seen his apology, I do think his regret was genuine. Not excusing him for lying or for what he did (a low, spiteful blow) but I do think from what I saw that he was genuinely sorry.
Originally Posted by Oswald Mosley:
“Linda was provoking him constantly all night, as she has done all series.
Jim finally bit and who can blame him? He was well within his right to say what he did. Linda then pounced on it, played the victim trying to show Jim in a bad light, when his reference to Frank Carson's dressing room is actually very relevant to the reason why she hates Jim so much.
Jim could have destroyed her in this argument, but instead tried his best to diffuse it from the beginning, and has since apologised too, even though it should have been on Linda to apologise.”
“Linda was provoking him constantly all night, as she has done all series.
Jim finally bit and who can blame him? He was well within his right to say what he did. Linda then pounced on it, played the victim trying to show Jim in a bad light, when his reference to Frank Carson's dressing room is actually very relevant to the reason why she hates Jim so much.
Jim could have destroyed her in this argument, but instead tried his best to diffuse it from the beginning, and has since apologised too, even though it should have been on Linda to apologise.”
How did Jim 'bite' when Linda wasn't even there when he said it? It wasn't as though he blurted it out to Linda's face in anger he sent a carrier pigeon (Louisa) with his message.
Originally Posted by zx50:
“Jim is anything but this. He could easily ignore her if he genuinely didn't want any hassle from her.”
“Jim is anything but this. He could easily ignore her if he genuinely didn't want any hassle from her.”
Do you mean racist? If so, I have watched Jim for around 35 years and have a sense of what he says.
The funniest people Dave Allen, Tommy Cooper, Peter Cooke, Dudley Moore, Hancock and many others were seriously funny just using people and situations and that is funny.
When jokes are used to make someone feel belittled then that is not on. I would not say Jim is exactly of the Manning ilk but not far off.
That said, I recognise people do move on and most importantly I want him to Win.
JIM TO WIN!!
Originally Posted by zx50:
“No he did NOT. He said "did I?" when Luisa told him what he'd said to her in the kitchen area.”
“No he did NOT. He said "did I?" when Luisa told him what he'd said to her in the kitchen area.”
And then said something like yeah.
Linda misheard Jim when he said something like "She got me again, that Linda, after I cooked for her" but in his accent the after sounded more like aaarfter, which could sound like a**ehole as she was inside and he was outside.
Admittedly she dived in unnecessarily and whipped up the row, but he definitely told Luisa to ask Linda about the dressing room stuff which was irrelevant and uncalled for.
He has deliberately opened up old wounds for her which were in the past and should have been left there. Now the press is all over it again and neither she nor her late husband are able to respond.
Harsh and hurtful, Jim !!
Admittedly she dived in unnecessarily and whipped up the row, but he definitely told Luisa to ask Linda about the dressing room stuff which was irrelevant and uncalled for.
He has deliberately opened up old wounds for her which were in the past and should have been left there. Now the press is all over it again and neither she nor her late husband are able to respond.
Harsh and hurtful, Jim !!
Linda had been goading him not just on that night but from the beginning and what I saw was Jim uttering a throwaway remark
"ask her about Frank Carson's dressing room" as there has been constant speculation in and out the house about why Linda disliked Jim so much and I took it that Jim had come to the conclusion that it was perhaps this.
I doubt there was any malice in it more a case of this was a possible answer.
Regardless of what you think of Jim he has managed to keep his cool inspite of Linda's campaign which she has engineered from the beginning
"ask her about Frank Carson's dressing room" as there has been constant speculation in and out the house about why Linda disliked Jim so much and I took it that Jim had come to the conclusion that it was perhaps this.
I doubt there was any malice in it more a case of this was a possible answer.
Regardless of what you think of Jim he has managed to keep his cool inspite of Linda's campaign which she has engineered from the beginning
Originally Posted by Oswald Mosley:
“And Linda lied about Jim calling her an arsehole.
The difference was Linda lied to start an argument, Jim lied to try and diffuse it.”
“And Linda lied about Jim calling her an arsehole.
The difference was Linda lied to start an argument, Jim lied to try and diffuse it.”
Well I concur that she did mishear that. Hands up, she was wrong. However it does not negate the low blow Jim threw her way, involving another housemate to goad her and then lying.
You may see it as him diffusing an argument. I see it as Mr. Davidson flat out lying.
Originally Posted by notlurkingnow:
“Linda misheard Jim when he said something like "She got me again, that Linda, after I cooked for her" but in his accent the after sounded more like aaarfter, which could sound like a**ehole as she was inside and he was outside.
Admittedly she dived in unnecessarily and whipped up the row, but he definitely told Luisa to ask Linda about the dressing room stuff which was irrelevant and uncalled for.
He has deliberately opened up old wounds for her which were in the past and should have been left there. Now the press is all over it again and neither she nor her late husband are able to respond.
Harsh and hurtful, Jim !!”
“Linda misheard Jim when he said something like "She got me again, that Linda, after I cooked for her" but in his accent the after sounded more like aaarfter, which could sound like a**ehole as she was inside and he was outside.
Admittedly she dived in unnecessarily and whipped up the row, but he definitely told Luisa to ask Linda about the dressing room stuff which was irrelevant and uncalled for.
He has deliberately opened up old wounds for her which were in the past and should have been left there. Now the press is all over it again and neither she nor her late husband are able to respond.
Harsh and hurtful, Jim !!”
Well said. Totally unnecessary and just disgusting of him. Regrettably I think we are in the minority in thinking his behaviour was low, moreover, I think he will win this year.
Originally Posted by sooze:
“Linda had been goading him not just on that night but from the beginning and what I saw was Jim uttering a throwaway remark
"ask her about Frank Carson's dressing room" as there has been constant speculation in and out the house about why Linda disliked Jim so much and I took it that Jim had come to the conclusion that it was perhaps this.
I doubt there was any malice in it more a case of this was a possible answer.
Regardless of what you think of Jim he has managed to keep his cool inspite of Linda's campaign which she has engineered from the beginning”
“Linda had been goading him not just on that night but from the beginning and what I saw was Jim uttering a throwaway remark
"ask her about Frank Carson's dressing room" as there has been constant speculation in and out the house about why Linda disliked Jim so much and I took it that Jim had come to the conclusion that it was perhaps this.
I doubt there was any malice in it more a case of this was a possible answer.
Regardless of what you think of Jim he has managed to keep his cool inspite of Linda's campaign which she has engineered from the beginning”
Well said. She has goaded and baited him right from the start. He has been remarkably restrained, what with Linda and the sleepless nights, I would have "lost" it long ago...
Originally Posted by SegaGamer:
“Now watch as some people completely ignore your post which makes perfect sense.”
“Now watch as some people completely ignore your post which makes perfect sense.”
I wouldn't ignore the post but just think its funny people can see a situation and then only see what they want to see
Originally Posted by diesels hummin:
“The truth is that linda is eaten alive by the shame and embarrassment of having been married to a man who stole from someone who as Jim said "was a good friend of ours" and angry that Jim despised the man as a result.”
“The truth is that linda is eaten alive by the shame and embarrassment of having been married to a man who stole from someone who as Jim said "was a good friend of ours" and angry that Jim despised the man as a result.”
Jesus, how presumptuous are you.
You or I know no such thing.
Originally Posted by greenyone:
“I wouldn't ignore the post but just think its funny people can see a situation and then only see what they want to see”
“I wouldn't ignore the post but just think its funny people can see a situation and then only see what they want to see”
That's a good point.
Originally Posted by Jennifer_F:
“Well said. She has goaded and baited him right from the start. He has been remarkably restrained, what with Linda and the sleepless nights, I would have "lost" it long ago...”
“Well said. She has goaded and baited him right from the start. He has been remarkably restrained, what with Linda and the sleepless nights, I would have "lost" it long ago...”
She hasn't. She told him and BB she doesn't like him. What part of that scenario is goading...there isn't one.
What that creep did in bringing up an offence Linda's HUSBAND did many moons ago was reprehensible. Showed his true colours.
Originally Posted by zx50:
“After talking to Luisa about Linda, Jim told her to ask Linda about Frank Carson's dressing room. Then, after Luisa told him in the bedroom in front of the others that he told her to ask Linda about this, he then blatantly lied and told her that he said "what about Frank Carson's dressing room?". That's not what he said, he definitely told her to ask Linda about Frank Carson's dressing room. He's definitely trying to stir up trouble in there. The way he said "did I?" to Luisa in the bedroom showed that he was trying to let Luisa know that he knew he was lying as he said it.”
“After talking to Luisa about Linda, Jim told her to ask Linda about Frank Carson's dressing room. Then, after Luisa told him in the bedroom in front of the others that he told her to ask Linda about this, he then blatantly lied and told her that he said "what about Frank Carson's dressing room?". That's not what he said, he definitely told her to ask Linda about Frank Carson's dressing room. He's definitely trying to stir up trouble in there. The way he said "did I?" to Luisa in the bedroom showed that he was trying to let Luisa know that he knew he was lying as he said it.”
there is a bigger liar in there and its Linda Nolan, I have never seen a more bitter faced spiteful malicious woman who is so twisted she cant even enjoy her own time in there and I hope to hell she gets her cummuppence very soon.
Originally Posted by Oswald Mosley:
“And Linda lied about Jim calling her an arsehole.
The difference was Linda lied to start an argument, Jim lied to try and diffuse it.”
“And Linda lied about Jim calling her an arsehole.
The difference was Linda lied to start an argument, Jim lied to try and diffuse it.”
touche !
Originally Posted by Oswald Mosley:
“And Linda lied about Jim calling her an arsehole.
The difference was Linda lied to start an argument, Jim lied to try and diffuse it.”
“And Linda lied about Jim calling her an arsehole.
The difference was Linda lied to start an argument, Jim lied to try and diffuse it.”
AGREED!!!
Originally Posted by notlurkingnow:
“Linda misheard Jim when he said something like "She got me again, that Linda, after I cooked for her" but in his accent the after sounded more like aaarfter, which could sound like a**ehole as she was inside and he was outside.
Admittedly she dived in unnecessarily and whipped up the row, but he definitely told Luisa to ask Linda about the dressing room stuff which was irrelevant and uncalled for.
He has deliberately opened up old wounds for her which were in the past and should have been left there. Now the press is all over it again and neither she nor her late husband are able to respond.
Harsh and hurtful, Jim !!”
“Linda misheard Jim when he said something like "She got me again, that Linda, after I cooked for her" but in his accent the after sounded more like aaarfter, which could sound like a**ehole as she was inside and he was outside.
Admittedly she dived in unnecessarily and whipped up the row, but he definitely told Luisa to ask Linda about the dressing room stuff which was irrelevant and uncalled for.
He has deliberately opened up old wounds for her which were in the past and should have been left there. Now the press is all over it again and neither she nor her late husband are able to respond.
Harsh and hurtful, Jim !!”
You say, as Linda has, that he brought the past up and it should have been left there, pretty spot on, however, Linda brought that "past" into BB from launch night. had she been civil and left the past where it belonged, this situation would never have blown up.
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