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"ask her about Frank Carson's dressing room" - the full conversation
freddofrog
17-01-2014
Lots of threads on here about it, but IMO most people are recollecting incorrectly from memory.

It was a 50 second clip on CBB at 9:31 last night. Luisa and Jim both clearly tipsy and stumbling with words.

IMO there was nothing calculating or malicious in the conversation, just sub-conscious intrigue.

From Demend 5 CBB 16 January at 9:31pm
scene is in the kitchen, Luisa/Lee/Jim, Lee says nothing.

"2:21am it's been 3 hours since Linda and Jim's latest barny"

LUISA "I think that you make comments and she bites"
JIM "not the other way around ?"
LUISA "sometimes she'll make comments, as well, but if you don't want it to happen just don't speak to her ?"
JIM "I won't speak to her"
LUISA "tomorrow morning when you wake up just say 'look it's obvious whatever you've got wrong with me, therefore let's agree not to speak to each other' "
JIM "she knows. I made the mistake tonight of trying to be nice, putting my arms around her, making her laugh, giving her a cuddle, cooking her a stir fry. Does that sound like someone to you who wants to have a go at someone ?"
LUISA "no, but in her mind, whatever issue there is, there's "
JIM "we know what her mind is now"
LUISA "I don't know what the f**k is going on in this house"
JIM "you should ask her, ask her about Frank Carson's dressing room"

and then we see Luisa going into the bedroom, but no idea if this was directly afterwards.

Be careful of how BB edits stir up an audience.
RenThraysk
17-01-2014
Nicely transcribed.
freddofrog
17-01-2014
Originally Posted by RenThraysk:
“Nicely transcribed.”

Thanks, maybe I've discovered a new vocation

I went to Demand 5 and replayed that part, recorded it onto a hand-held voice recorder, from which I could stop/start while typing.

When you listen to it, they do actually talk over one another here and there, and it's a typical semi-drunken conversation.

IMO, because they're drunk, it was spontaneous. Luisa I suspect was trying to act as a go-between, but inadvertently set off a bomb.
nanna7
17-01-2014
it doesnt really matter it was the way he said that sentence ask her about frank carsons dressing room . in that one sentence you thought oh my gosh what happen. he wanted her to ask sorry not on anyones side . but that one sentence was enough
freddofrog
17-01-2014
Originally Posted by nanna7:
“it doesnt really matter it was the way he said that sentence ask her about frank carsons dressing room . in that one sentence you thought oh my gosh what happen. he wanted her to ask sorry not on anyones side . but that one sentence was enough”

well IMO it shouldn't be taken out of context, it was a full conversation that led up to him saying that, and when one is drunk, one often mentions deeper held irrational reasoning.
nanna7
17-01-2014
Originally Posted by freddofrog:
“well IMO it shouldn't be taken out of context, it was a full conversation that led up to him saying that, and when one is drunk, one often mentions deeper held irrational reasoning.”

maybe he was drunk but the way that one sentence was said it caused uproar said in a different manner all might have been different, he meant it to cause trouble and it did. i am not condoning either behaviour but it even made me look up and say what.
madwumin
17-01-2014
I want Jim to win but recently I have sussed him right out! He DID say ASK her about bla bla bla - but then he said in front of them all that all he said was 'maybe it was something to do with bla bla bla' - He is NOT being honest at all! And when he gets into an arguement once everyone has a drink he simply brings folks down to size by being smarmy and saying things like - 'why dont you just go and sleep' or 'why dont we talk about this tomorrow' or 'ok you are right' Mmm think I may be changing my mind about Jim!
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