Originally Posted by bluebottle:
“and so far no one has spoken..speaks volumes”
“and so far no one has spoken..speaks volumes”
Eh?
Has anyone else thought this about Linda?
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Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey:
“I'm afraid that every so often - not every series, but sometimes - this forum just does seem to turn into a massive hatefest. I find it very draining and depressing.
Obviously every series has its heroes and villains, but there is normally some debate, some balance, not just endless abuse. People with no sense of irony use the most disgustingly abusive terms to describe Linda because they think she is not being a nice person.
I find it particularly bad this time because Linda seems to me emotionally fragile, and to have no idea how much hate has been stoked against her. I do blame BB: they should never have put her in the house with Jim in the hope that it would be funny: it has not been funny at all, just miserable; he will be all right because he is adored, but she won't be. And the edit has been really bad for her: they have never, ever shown her having ordinary, friendly times with people who like her; I genuinely think people on the staff are at one with people on here in wanting to see her demonised and Jim getting lovely positive attention. We have Sam saying she feels protective of Linda because Jim is always picking on her - and nothing whatsoever that shows that has ever been shown, just the other way round. I'm sure people will be queueing up to say that Sam is just 'part of Linda's coven' and just lying to make Jim look bad, but why in the world would she? It is surely overwhelmingly likely that if Sam thinks Jim has been picking on Linda, some form of picking on has happened; it just hasn't been shown, because Linda's selected 'story' is 'always picking on Jim; and Jim's selected 'story' is 'kindly Jim, always helping others'.”
“I'm afraid that every so often - not every series, but sometimes - this forum just does seem to turn into a massive hatefest. I find it very draining and depressing.
Obviously every series has its heroes and villains, but there is normally some debate, some balance, not just endless abuse. People with no sense of irony use the most disgustingly abusive terms to describe Linda because they think she is not being a nice person.
I find it particularly bad this time because Linda seems to me emotionally fragile, and to have no idea how much hate has been stoked against her. I do blame BB: they should never have put her in the house with Jim in the hope that it would be funny: it has not been funny at all, just miserable; he will be all right because he is adored, but she won't be. And the edit has been really bad for her: they have never, ever shown her having ordinary, friendly times with people who like her; I genuinely think people on the staff are at one with people on here in wanting to see her demonised and Jim getting lovely positive attention. We have Sam saying she feels protective of Linda because Jim is always picking on her - and nothing whatsoever that shows that has ever been shown, just the other way round. I'm sure people will be queueing up to say that Sam is just 'part of Linda's coven' and just lying to make Jim look bad, but why in the world would she? It is surely overwhelmingly likely that if Sam thinks Jim has been picking on Linda, some form of picking on has happened; it just hasn't been shown, because Linda's selected 'story' is 'always picking on Jim; and Jim's selected 'story' is 'kindly Jim, always helping others'.”
Well said. Couldn't agree more.
Originally Posted by bluebottle:
“and so far no one has spoken..speaks volumes”
“and so far no one has spoken..speaks volumes”
What are you on about
Her husband's crime was well publicised and he was caught on camera. Then he paid the price for that crime. I don't know that there is anything to betray him about.
Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey:
“She seems depressed to me. And I don't mean pissed off, I mean depressed.”
“She seems depressed to me. And I don't mean pissed off, I mean depressed.”
I would agree with this.
Several times she has appeared distressed, sad and as if she has the weight of the world on her shoulders?
No excuse for going after Jim as she has done since day one, but something needs fixing there. IMO
Originally Posted by Jak14:
“If Jim had said to Luisa "ask Linda about the club she had me kicked out of" Linda would have given the same response because it relates to her dead husband stealing, yet Coleen was quite smug on BBBOTS when telling us that was the reason Linda disliked him.
The Nolan's just sap up sympathy”
“If Jim had said to Luisa "ask Linda about the club she had me kicked out of" Linda would have given the same response because it relates to her dead husband stealing, yet Coleen was quite smug on BBBOTS when telling us that was the reason Linda disliked him.
The Nolan's just sap up sympathy”
That's pure speculation.
Why do some people continually make the excuse that Jim was angry and fighting back when he sent Louisa with the message? He wasn't angry at all he was sitting in the garden quite calmly.
If Linda's husband stole money 25 years ago so what? It wasn't Linda who stole it. Would Jim supporters feel the same way they do if Jim's wife stole money 25 years ago? Jim probably knew the story would highly embarrass Linda. I'm glad however that he eventually thought it through, and it's possible repercussions on himself, and apologised. But sometimes is easy to apologise once you've achieved your intention.
I know nothing of the Nolan's history, they've never been that interesting to me that I've needed to follow their lives, so all I've seen in Linda in this house & Colleen of course in a former show. I cannot understand the level of intense dislike Linda is receiving.
If Linda's husband stole money 25 years ago so what? It wasn't Linda who stole it. Would Jim supporters feel the same way they do if Jim's wife stole money 25 years ago? Jim probably knew the story would highly embarrass Linda. I'm glad however that he eventually thought it through, and it's possible repercussions on himself, and apologised. But sometimes is easy to apologise once you've achieved your intention.
I know nothing of the Nolan's history, they've never been that interesting to me that I've needed to follow their lives, so all I've seen in Linda in this house & Colleen of course in a former show. I cannot understand the level of intense dislike Linda is receiving.
Wonkeydonkey ........
It was unkind of BB to put those two in together. Either of them might have had a much more cheerful experience without the other, and BB MUST have known that. In effect they have sacrificed two people known to have a recent history of personal problems in the hope that it might be funny to the viewers.[/quote]
Exactly. It's all about the ratings and viewing figures.
Do they ever worry about the housemates once they leave the house and the cameras are turned off?
But I guess we are just as bad, 'cos we watch it!
It was unkind of BB to put those two in together. Either of them might have had a much more cheerful experience without the other, and BB MUST have known that. In effect they have sacrificed two people known to have a recent history of personal problems in the hope that it might be funny to the viewers.[/quote]
Exactly. It's all about the ratings and viewing figures.
Do they ever worry about the housemates once they leave the house and the cameras are turned off?
But I guess we are just as bad, 'cos we watch it!
Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey:
“She seems depressed to me. And I don't mean pissed off, I mean depressed.”
“She seems depressed to me. And I don't mean pissed off, I mean depressed.”
According to the press,her husband died of liver cancer when she was having chemotherapy after her mastectomy for breast cancer. She went back to performing in Blood Brothers, then couldn't work because of severe depression. Hence she ended up claiming benefits.That amounts to a pretty severe depression in my eyes. It seems perfectly feasible, considering her rather over dramatised comment, Jim kicking a widow when she's down, that she is indeed still not recovered but desperate for money. She's had too many tragic events in a relatively short time.
Originally Posted by sammyvan:
“But I guess we are just as bad, 'cos we watch it!”
“But I guess we are just as bad, 'cos we watch it!”
I have genuinely sometimes thought that. After Conor was given half the prize money in BB13 I didn 't watch the next series in protest, and did fully intend never to watch it again, but it has been such a big part of my life that I find it hard to let go. It is actually really odd to have missed a series, and not understand any of the references.
She is a horrible person. I wasn't too bothered about Jim D when he went in and I thought he would be an embarrassment. Well, it's obvious who the embarrassment is, and she has acted atrociously. Jim has redeemed himself
Originally Posted by Fairy Wings:
“Why do some people continually make the excuse that Jim was angry and fighting back when he sent Louisa with the message? He wasn't angry at all he was sitting in the garden quite calmly.
If Linda's husband stole money 25 years ago so what? It wasn't Linda who stole it. Would Jim supporters feel the same way they do if Jim's wife stole money 25 years ago? Jim probably knew the story would highly embarrass Linda. I'm glad however that he eventually thought it through, and it's possible repercussions on himself, and apologised. But sometimes is easy to apologise once you've achieved your intention.
I know nothing of the Nolan's history, they've never been that interesting to me that I've needed to follow their lives, so all I've seen in Linda in this house & Colleen of course in a former show. I cannot understand the level of intense dislike Linda is receiving.”
“Why do some people continually make the excuse that Jim was angry and fighting back when he sent Louisa with the message? He wasn't angry at all he was sitting in the garden quite calmly.
If Linda's husband stole money 25 years ago so what? It wasn't Linda who stole it. Would Jim supporters feel the same way they do if Jim's wife stole money 25 years ago? Jim probably knew the story would highly embarrass Linda. I'm glad however that he eventually thought it through, and it's possible repercussions on himself, and apologised. But sometimes is easy to apologise once you've achieved your intention.
I know nothing of the Nolan's history, they've never been that interesting to me that I've needed to follow their lives, so all I've seen in Linda in this house & Colleen of course in a former show. I cannot understand the level of intense dislike Linda is receiving.”
I agree. He has apologised, he knows he seriously was in the wrong, yet so many people persist in tearing lumps out of Linda?They don't blame him when that's not how he feels!
His past, if mentioned, is not allowed to be considered by some. It's all about what we are allowed to see in the house. Yet hers and her husbands past,is scrutinized to the most pedantic level and demonized.
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“I agree. He has apologised, he knows he seriously was in the wrong, yet so many people persist in tearing lumps out of Linda?They don't blame him when that's not how he feels!
His past, if mentioned, is not allowed to be considered by some. It's all about what we are allowed to see in the house. Yet hers and her husbands past,is scrutinized to the most pedantic level and demonized.”
“I agree. He has apologised, he knows he seriously was in the wrong, yet so many people persist in tearing lumps out of Linda?They don't blame him when that's not how he feels!
His past, if mentioned, is not allowed to be considered by some. It's all about what we are allowed to see in the house. Yet hers and her husbands past,is scrutinized to the most pedantic level and demonized.”
The forums will be in overdrive when it's shown tonight what Linda says about her sex life. Be ready lol
Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey:
“I'm afraid that every so often - not every series, but sometimes - this forum just does seem to turn into a massive hatefest. I find it very draining and depressing.
Obviously every series has its heroes and villains, but there is normally some debate, some balance, not just endless abuse. People with no sense of irony use the most disgustingly abusive terms to describe Linda because they think she is not being a nice person.
I find it particularly bad this time because Linda seems to me emotionally fragile, and to have no idea how much hate has been stoked against her. I do blame BB: they should never have put her in the house with Jim in the hope that it would be funny: it has not been funny at all, just miserable; he will be all right because he is adored, but she won't be. And the edit has been really bad for her: they have never, ever shown her having ordinary, friendly times with people who like her; I genuinely think people on the staff are at one with people on here in wanting to see her demonised and Jim getting lovely positive attention. We have Sam saying she feels protective of Linda because Jim is always picking on her - and nothing whatsoever that shows that has ever been shown, just the other way round. I'm sure people will be queueing up to say that Sam is just 'part of Linda's coven' and just lying to make Jim look bad, but why in the world would she? It is surely overwhelmingly likely that if Sam thinks Jim has been picking on Linda, some form of picking on has happened; it just hasn't been shown, because Linda's selected 'story' is 'always picking on Jim; and Jim's selected 'story' is 'kindly Jim, always helping others'.”
“I'm afraid that every so often - not every series, but sometimes - this forum just does seem to turn into a massive hatefest. I find it very draining and depressing.
Obviously every series has its heroes and villains, but there is normally some debate, some balance, not just endless abuse. People with no sense of irony use the most disgustingly abusive terms to describe Linda because they think she is not being a nice person.
I find it particularly bad this time because Linda seems to me emotionally fragile, and to have no idea how much hate has been stoked against her. I do blame BB: they should never have put her in the house with Jim in the hope that it would be funny: it has not been funny at all, just miserable; he will be all right because he is adored, but she won't be. And the edit has been really bad for her: they have never, ever shown her having ordinary, friendly times with people who like her; I genuinely think people on the staff are at one with people on here in wanting to see her demonised and Jim getting lovely positive attention. We have Sam saying she feels protective of Linda because Jim is always picking on her - and nothing whatsoever that shows that has ever been shown, just the other way round. I'm sure people will be queueing up to say that Sam is just 'part of Linda's coven' and just lying to make Jim look bad, but why in the world would she? It is surely overwhelmingly likely that if Sam thinks Jim has been picking on Linda, some form of picking on has happened; it just hasn't been shown, because Linda's selected 'story' is 'always picking on Jim; and Jim's selected 'story' is 'kindly Jim, always helping others'.”
wonky i am so with you 100% i come on ds to read and follow bb am so sick of the nastiness shown on here i think its very sad bb put these two in together neither can have really enjoyed the experience, bb gives hms a story line and feel it is sad that they pick a nice story line for one and nasty story for another why can they not let the storylines just come naturaly
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