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LOUISA TO WIN!!! : it's entertainment
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Noush
18-01-2014
I am just playing catch up with a couple of episodes I have missed and I can't believe the crowd and BBBOTS guests and presenters saying they are warming to Jim?!?!? Couldn't believe when I heard the crowd cheer for him.

After what Jim said about Linda's deceased husband, If Jim wins then I am done with Big Brother.

All Jim has done is been so hurtful, sly, nasty and personal...and he's a shit stirrer. He gets right in there, stabs the knife then twists it and THEN he makes a heartfelt deep apology????!!! He is playing a really nasty game in order to win. When you start bringing people who have passed away in to it, and their wife is in a confined space with you and unable to get away from it then you're a really nasty piece of work.

Getting back to my thread title, although a lot of people apparently don't like her, given the booing etc but Louisa is not hurtful, sly or two faced, she says it like it is what has her sexual preferences etc got to do with anyone?
Louisa made the comment to jasmine about a lesbian romp getting the viewers attention etc but I believe it it's something she would have done anyway.

Louisa should win for pure entertainment and value.

Sam - you don't even know she's in there
Ollie - much the same as Sam and apart from being "a nice guy" that's not a worthy reason to win
Lee - ****, two faced, liar (I'm sure he made stuff up about what Casey said)
Casey - either a borderline bunny boiler or a devious game planner.
Dappy - perhaps that should be "dopey". He's just an opinionated, sex crazed fool. Not winner material.
Jim - no way. Reasons stated above
Linda - didn't like her on the first day but have really warmed to her. She was honest about benefits etc

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LOUSIA TO WIN!!! - entertaining, funny, confident, genuine, no game plan...winner
GTR Davo
18-01-2014
Originally Posted by Noush:
“I am just playing catch up with a couple of episodes I have missed and I can't believe the crowd and BBBOTS guests and presenters saying they are warming to Jim?!?!? Couldn't believe when I heard the crowd cheer for him.

After what Jim said about Linda's deceased husband, If Jim wins then I am done with Big Brother.

All Jim has done is been so hurtful, sly, nasty and personal...and he's a shit stirrer. He gets right in there, stabs the knife then twists it and THEN he makes a heartfelt deep apology????!!! He is playing a really nasty game in order to win. When you start bringing people who have passed away in to it, and their wife is in a confined space with you and unable to get away from it then you're a really nasty piece of work.

Getting back to my thread title, although a lot of people apparently don't like her, given the booing etc but Louisa is not hurtful, sly or two faced, she says it like it is what has her sexual preferences etc got to do with anyone?
Louisa made the comment to jasmine about a lesbian romp getting the viewers attention etc but I believe it it's something she would have done anyway.

Louisa should win for pure entertainment and value.

Sam - you don't even know she's in there
Ollie - much the same as Sam and apart from being "a nice guy" that's not a worthy reason to win
Lee - ****, two faced, liar (I'm sure he made stuff up about what Casey said)
Casey - either a borderline bunny boiler or a devious game planner.
Dappy - perhaps that should be "dopey". He's just an opinionated, sex crazed fool. Not winner material.
Jim - no way. Reasons stated above
Linda - didn't like her on the first day but have really warmed to her. She was honest about benefits etc

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LOUSIA TO WIN!!! - entertaining, funny, confident, genuine, no game plan...winner ”

Agreed! and considering Sam was saved with one of the top votes it shows one thing: people love bores!!! her, Ollie, Liz! WTF is wrong with people??

Luisa for the win
CLL Dodge
18-01-2014
She won't win but she has been the most memorable housemate. I never watched The Apprentice so she was a complete unknown to me on launch night. Without her it would have been all love triangle crap with an occasional aside to Frank Carson's dressing room (and Luisa was the catalyst for that sequence making the headlines).
Kromm
18-01-2014
People love sob stories (Liz), "redemption stories" (Jim), and the quiet little mouse who knows her place (at least in the house if not outside, Sam).

They love WATCHING piss and vinegar (Luisa), but don't want to come off as if they're rewarding it--especially if its a woman (if its a man, then he can be as big an arse as possible (Dopey, Lionel).

To me, Linda and Jim kind of deserve each other. Neither deserves to win. Lionel having won would have been even worse, but any of the oldies would be a shame. Of the youngsters, Luisa is the one who entertains, and since the show is bull#$^ and not really about who's the best person anyway, why NOT give it to the person who's giving us the most laughs? Sam winning would be okay, although we DO know it's all an act + editing, so she'd be winning for simply being a better actress than people assumed and having the producers on her side.
eyespy
18-01-2014
too Nicky Graham for me.
humpty dumpty
18-01-2014
Originally Posted by Noush:
“I am just playing catch up with a couple of episodes I have missed and I can't believe the crowd and BBBOTS guests and presenters saying they are warming to Jim?!?!? Couldn't believe when I heard the crowd cheer for him.

After what Jim said about Linda's deceased husband, If Jim wins then I am done with Big Brother.

All Jim has done is been so hurtful, sly, nasty and personal...and he's a shit stirrer. He gets right in there, stabs the knife then twists it and THEN he makes a heartfelt deep apology????!!! He is playing a really nasty game in order to win. When you start bringing people who have passed away in to it, and their wife is in a confined space with you and unable to get away from it then you're a really nasty piece of work.

Getting back to my thread title, although a lot of people apparently don't like her, given the booing etc but Louisa is not hurtful, sly or two faced, she says it like it is what has her sexual preferences etc got to do with anyone?
Louisa made the comment to jasmine about a lesbian romp getting the viewers attention etc but I believe it it's something she would have done anyway.

Louisa should win for pure entertainment and value.

Sam - you don't even know she's in there
Ollie - much the same as Sam and apart from being "a nice guy" that's not a worthy reason to win
Lee - ****, two faced, liar (I'm sure he made stuff up about what Casey said)
Casey - either a borderline bunny boiler or a devious game planner.
Dappy - perhaps that should be "dopey". He's just an opinionated, sex crazed fool. Not winner material.
Jim - no way. Reasons stated above
Linda - didn't like her on the first day but have really warmed to her. She was honest about benefits etc

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LOUSIA TO WIN!!! - entertaining, funny, confident, genuine, no game plan...winner ”

Agree with most of this. Louisa wouldn't be my best friend, but has earned the win I think for input/entertainment. People go on about it being a memorable show...I feel without her, the show would have been dull as dishwater.
ScreamingTree<3
18-01-2014
No thank you.
MACTOWIN
18-01-2014
Jasmine and Luisa imo are the h/m's got this series off to the start that resulted in such big viewing figures.
Whitiamin
18-01-2014
yes its entertainment but she is far from entertaining unless you are looking for porn, foul language and spitting the dummy out when your not getting you're own way.
Dilly Daydream
18-01-2014
Originally Posted by CLL Dodge:
“She won't win but she has been the most memorable housemate. I never watched The Apprentice so she was a complete unknown to me on launch night. Without her it would have been all love triangle crap with an occasional aside to Frank Carson's dressing room (and Luisa was the catalyst for that sequence making the headlines).”

I did and she was brilliant. To reach the final two out of 16, she must have something about her. I personally think she was robbed in the final, I was rooting for her to win. Such a smart woman!

I'd love her to win CBB, that would be good.
Christian Cage
18-01-2014
I think Luisa deserves to win. She has been the most entertaining housemate and the show would not have been as good without her.
welsh_stud
18-01-2014
Definitely deserves the win. By far the most entertaining housemate. Can see her being voted out next week tho...shame tho as the remainder of the series will be so dull
Oliver_Tomlinso
18-01-2014
Nah, jim to win
An Thropologist
18-01-2014
Originally Posted by Noush:
“I am just playing catch up with a couple of episodes I have missed and I can't believe the crowd and BBBOTS guests and presenters saying they are warming to Jim?!?!? Couldn't believe when I heard the crowd cheer for him.

After what Jim said about Linda's deceased husband, If Jim wins then I am done with Big Brother.

All Jim has done is been so hurtful, sly, nasty and personal...and he's a shit stirrer. He gets right in there, stabs the knife then twists it and THEN he makes a heartfelt deep apology????!!! He is playing a really nasty game in order to win. When you start bringing people who have passed away in to it, and their wife is in a confined space with you and unable to get away from it then you're a really nasty piece of work.

Getting back to my thread title, although a lot of people apparently don't like her, given the booing etc but Louisa is not hurtful, sly or two faced, she says it like it is what has her sexual preferences etc got to do with anyone?
Louisa made the comment to jasmine about a lesbian romp getting the viewers attention etc but I believe it it's something she would have done anyway.

Louisa should win for pure entertainment and value.

Sam - you don't even know she's in there
Ollie - much the same as Sam and apart from being "a nice guy" that's not a worthy reason to win
Lee - ****, two faced, liar (I'm sure he made stuff up about what Casey said)
Casey - either a borderline bunny boiler or a devious game planner.
Dappy - perhaps that should be "dopey". He's just an opinionated, sex crazed fool. Not winner material.
Jim - no way. Reasons stated above
Linda - didn't like her on the first day but have really warmed to her. She was honest about benefits etc

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LOUSIA TO WIN!!! - entertaining, funny, confident, genuine, no game plan...winner ”


I don't find that pair of arguments logical.

If Lee was telling the truth about Casey contriving a showmance for the purposes of airtime the yes she would be playing a game. But that means your characterisation of Lee fails.

If you maintain he has lied and made the stuff up about her it exonerates her I feel. If she has been spurned by Lee who then lied about what she said, her behaviour is understandable and not deserving of the descriptions attributed to her.

Its one or the other. From what we have seen, so far, it is Lee who is lying. Time will tell (maybe) but you can't have it both ways.

As for 'Luisa hasn't been hurtful, sly or two faced' - well that's your opinion, but not one I share. She goes beyond outspoken and her insistence on her right to tell it as she sees it, with all people at all times is often hurtful. As she would well know if she took a step out of her ego centric world. She gets upset when its coming to her but doesn't seem able to grasp that's how others feel when she is delivering her brutal honest opinion (again!)

She is entertaining and is certainly not all bad but IMO painting her as a plaster saint is not credible.
gilliedew
18-01-2014
Louisa has been the most annoying housemate, loud, aggressive, screechy, convinced she is right, pig headed, disgusting and nasty but being entertaining overrides all that does it? Not in my book
Blue Eyed lady
18-01-2014
I would love to see Luisa win.

Even if you don't like her, she's been the most entertaining by a country mile, OK, the nipple sucking was a bit bleurgh but that aside, she's been excellent value.

She really doesn't give a flying fig what the others think, if she's got something to say, she'll say it. In the Most Annoying Room she was hilarious, even her arguments have been amusing.

She strikes me as the type of person who lives life to the full & I admire that.

Go Luisa!
michaelkegnan
18-01-2014
Luisa got off with Dappy last night.
michaelkegnan
18-01-2014
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“I don't find that pair of arguments logical.

If Lee was telling the truth about Casey contriving a showmance for the purposes of airtime the yes she would be playing a game. But that means your characterisation of Lee fails.

If you maintain he has lied and made the stuff up about her it exonerates her I feel. If she has been spurned by Lee who then lied about what she said, her behaviour is understandable and not deserving of the descriptions attributed to her.

Its one or the other. From what we have seen, so far, it is Lee who is lying. Time will tell (maybe) but you can't have it both ways.

As for 'Luisa hasn't been hurtful, sly or two faced' - well that's your opinion, but not one I share. She goes beyond outspoken and her insistence on her right to tell it as she sees it, with all people at all times is often hurtful. As she would well know if she took a step out of her ego centric world. She gets upset when its coming to her but doesn't seem able to grasp that's how others feel when she is delivering her brutal honest opinion (again!)

She is entertaining and is certainly not all bad but IMO painting her as a plaster saint is not credible.”

Casey is Satan's spawn.
lightonmyfeet
18-01-2014
Originally Posted by michaelkegnan:
“Luisa got off with Dappy last night.”

Dapoy the man who disrespects women (according to Luisa)? Luisa's faux feminism is the reason I do not want her to win. She has created drama yes, but swings between tough lady and lickle girl. Her obsession with Jim is embarrassing too and annoying cos she is helping him look good.
Noush
18-01-2014
Originally Posted by michaelkegnan:
“Luisa got off with Dappy last night.”

Oh really?!?!!!!!...... I haven't seen it yet....I a half way through last night's episode....

Saw Casey crying and really had to salute Louisa again as although she was much much more close to Jasmine she never let the Lee situation influence her friendship with Casey and even went up to Lee and Jasmine at one point and told them not to stop being all over each other when Casey was inside crying.

Ps. Sorry....I forgot to add my reasons for Liz not winning in my opening post....that's says it all really!

Anyway..

Liz - DAMN WEIRD (although she is starting come out of herself a bit more now but it's too late; she took too long)
johnan
18-01-2014
Just because someone is entertaining does not make them likeable or a worthy winner of this sort of contest, unless they have some charm, a decent personality, a sense of humour and are not excessively vain.
Louisa fails this test.
flavour
18-01-2014
Originally Posted by johnan:
“Just because someone is entertaining does not make them likeable or a worthy winner of this sort of contest, unless they have some charm, a decent personality, a sense of humour and are not excessively vain.
Louisa fails this test.”



she is a female version of Lee... both say what they think you want to hear, false & very shallow
Blue Eyed lady
18-01-2014
Originally Posted by flavour:
“she is a female version of Lee... both say what they think you want to hear, false & very shallow”

I agree with you about Lee but definitely not Luisa.

She is the least false person in there, as for saying, she says what she thinks others want to hear, I'd say the exact opposite, she says exactly what she believes & doesn't appear to give a rat's a**e what anyone thinks.

Not sure how you see her as shallow?
flavour
18-01-2014
Originally Posted by Blue Eyed lady:
“I agree with you about Lee but definitely not Luisa.

She is the least false person in there, as for saying, she says what she thinks others want to hear, I'd say the exact opposite, she says exactly what she believes & doesn't appear to give a rat's a**e what anyone thinks.

Not sure how you see her as shallow?”


if she doesn't give a rats arse, why is she always crying when she has rowed? fake tears for sympathy

she is nothing but a shít stirrer & looks at the camera when she is telling a housemate what someone else has told her..... when Lee told her about Casey playing him lets act it out.. she went & told them looking at the camera as she did, bit of a player her self, & two faced

oh sorry i thought she had 5 men in one night, letting Dappy suck her nipples,Lee trying to get her boobs out.... not shallow?
BROXI BEAR
18-01-2014
Originally Posted by johnan:
“Just because someone is entertaining does not make them likeable or a worthy winner of this sort of contest, unless they have some charm, a decent personality, a sense of humour and are not excessively vain.
Louisa fails this test.”


Exactly!
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