The row between Jasmine and Lionel was hilarious last night, Rylan's frozen permagrin was faltering at times. 
Lionel's shown himself to be a lying hypocrite. Not keen.
Lionel's shown himself to be a lying hypocrite. Not keen.
Lionel is sorry about Casey "publicity" comment
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Originally Posted by trevvytrev21:
“The row between Jasmine and Lionel was hilarious last night, Rylan's frozen permagrin was faltering at times.
Lionel's shown himself to be a lying hypocrite. Not keen.”
“The row between Jasmine and Lionel was hilarious last night, Rylan's frozen permagrin was faltering at times.
Lionel's shown himself to be a lying hypocrite. Not keen.”
Rylans face was a picture especially when he was mouthing "help me" behind Lionel Blairs back.
So he has capitulated to tow he "party line"!!! I am quite positive she did mumble to Lee on fake eviction night, something about "playing along", I assumed she meant it in a "if you didn't want the Boos"!! kind of way.
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“I was so dissappointed in Lionel. Casey's family must have been so upset when he came out with that rubbish last night.
Did he also apologise for saying that Casey told Louisa to keep looking at the camera
He said she was all about the publicity. Really hypocritical.
I loved him in the house and was delighted with the response he received from the crowd, then he goes and slags off Casey. Don't get it.”
“I was so dissappointed in Lionel. Casey's family must have been so upset when he came out with that rubbish last night.
Did he also apologise for saying that Casey told Louisa to keep looking at the camera
He said she was all about the publicity. Really hypocritical. I loved him in the house and was delighted with the response he received from the crowd, then he goes and slags off Casey. Don't get it.”
WHOs to say he is/was telling the truth!!!
Originally Posted by iMatt_101:
“Probably. He's lied so much already, and if Casey really did say that then why didn't he 'expose' her before Jasmine's eviction? He's just throwing his toys out the pram because Jasmine is out and looking for someone to blame.
Having said that, I'm still confused over Lionel saying that Casey had said to Luisa to act up because the cameras are on or something? I wonder if we'll see anything on the HL shows...”
“Probably. He's lied so much already, and if Casey really did say that then why didn't he 'expose' her before Jasmine's eviction? He's just throwing his toys out the pram because Jasmine is out and looking for someone to blame.
Having said that, I'm still confused over Lionel saying that Casey had said to Luisa to act up because the cameras are on or something? I wonder if we'll see anything on the HL shows...”
I wonder if Lionel heard Casey say that to Louisa or it was just a remark that Louisa passed on to Lionel? Funny Louisa always seems to be looking directly into the camera rather than to the person she is engaging with.
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“And his response was...
She did not say the words "let's keep it going for publicity" and I'm going to apologise to her when she comes out. - Lionel”
“And his response was...
She did not say the words "let's keep it going for publicity" and I'm going to apologise to her when she comes out. - Lionel”
So the above quote that Lionel said Casey said to Luisa.. Lionel lied about that then?
Originally Posted by summertime09:
“WHOs to say he is/was telling the truth!!!”
“WHOs to say he is/was telling the truth!!!
”
Fair dues. You have me banged to rights.
I don't think that Lionel's hearing is all that, and his concentration span seems a bit short. Not surprising because of his age. And that may account for him responding strangely and having to backtrack when he realises what was really said or really meant.
I'm hard of hearing too and see my own behaviour in some of the things both he and Liz do to cover up the fact that they are not 100% certain about what is being said.
I'm hard of hearing too and see my own behaviour in some of the things both he and Liz do to cover up the fact that they are not 100% certain about what is being said.
Originally Posted by summertime09:
“So he has capitulated to tow he "party line"!!! I am quite positive she did mumble to Lee on fake eviction night, something about "playing along", I assumed she meant it in a "if you didn't want the Boos"!! kind of way.”
“So he has capitulated to tow he "party line"!!! I am quite positive she did mumble to Lee on fake eviction night, something about "playing along", I assumed she meant it in a "if you didn't want the Boos"!! kind of way.”
It's difficult to tell what the truth is as BB showed us none of it. I thought Lee looked rather shifty yesterday though when news of him accusing Casey of a showmance got out.
Originally Posted by trevvytrev21:
“The row between Jasmine and Lionel was hilarious last night, Rylan's frozen permagrin was faltering at times.
Lionel's shown himself to be a lying hypocrite. Not keen.”
“The row between Jasmine and Lionel was hilarious last night, Rylan's frozen permagrin was faltering at times.
Lionel's shown himself to be a lying hypocrite. Not keen.”
Lionel strikes me as having the opinion of the last person he spoke to.
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“It's difficult to tell what the truth is as BB showed us none of it. I thought Lee looked rather shifty yesterday though when news of him accusing Casey of a showmance got out.”
“It's difficult to tell what the truth is as BB showed us none of it. I thought Lee looked rather shifty yesterday though when news of him accusing Casey of a showmance got out.”
He was absolutely gutted that Dappy had opened his silly little mouth to Liz.
I personally don't think Casey said that at all, and until BB chooses to show us what exactly was said, I'll stick by my beliefs.
Hang on a minute, are we all forgetting that Lionel also claimed he heard with his own ears Casey saying "keep it going you're on camera" to Luisa?
Was that a lie too?
Was that a lie too?
Originally Posted by Mrs BBV:
“Lionel strikes me as having the opinion of the last person he spoke to.”
“Lionel strikes me as having the opinion of the last person he spoke to.”
Definitely! The phonecall with Jasmine proved that.
Originally Posted by BMLisa:
“Hang on a minute, are we all forgetting that Lionel also claimed he heard with his own ears Casey saying "keep it going you're on camera" to Luisa?
Was that a lie too?”
“Hang on a minute, are we all forgetting that Lionel also claimed he heard with his own ears Casey saying "keep it going you're on camera" to Luisa?
Was that a lie too?”
Not a lie but you don't know what context it was in.
Originally Posted by mo mouse:
“Absolutely loathe Lionel with a passion.”
“Absolutely loathe Lionel with a passion.”
Really.
I thought he was fantastic.
Originally Posted by mo mouse:
“Absolutely loathe Lionel with a passion.”
“Absolutely loathe Lionel with a passion.”
Thankfully this year, I've been "loathe" free, however I really didn't like his remarks to Emma last night about Casey. Uncalled for really. I was so dissappointed in him
as I thought he was a fantastic housemate.
Originally Posted by BMLisa:
“Hang on a minute, are we all forgetting that Lionel also claimed he heard with his own ears Casey saying "keep it going you're on camera" to Luisa?
Was that a lie too?”
“Hang on a minute, are we all forgetting that Lionel also claimed he heard with his own ears Casey saying "keep it going you're on camera" to Luisa?
Was that a lie too?”
This is a tricky one. We don't know how it was said; that changed everything. I can only think of two things:
1. It was a joke to take the piss to what was said recently
2. HMs are always more camera aware on eviction night... that's why the HMs not up for eviction still dress up to look good, even though they have been on camera anyway the other 6 days of the week.
Originally Posted by Mrs BBV:
“Lionel strikes me as having the opinion of the last person he spoke to.”
“Lionel strikes me as having the opinion of the last person he spoke to.”
I was thinking that too , he's easily swayed
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“This is a tricky one. We don't know how it was said; that changed everything. I can only think of two things:
1. It was a joke to take the piss to what was said recently
2. HMs are always more camera aware on eviction night... that's why the HMs not up for eviction still dress up to look good, even though they have been on camera anyway the other 6 days of the week.”
“This is a tricky one. We don't know how it was said; that changed everything. I can only think of two things:
1. It was a joke to take the piss to what was said recently
2. HMs are always more camera aware on eviction night... that's why the HMs not up for eviction still dress up to look good, even though they have been on camera anyway the other 6 days of the week.”
Nice one Salv..I agree, bib
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“He took over the official Facebook page today. He was asked this...
Your a lovely man Lionel but why do you believe what lee told you??
He hasn't been truthful all through CBB, he's lying bout loads of things! How can he con an 82 year old wise man of the world??
And his response was...
I believed him at the time, but since I've been out, I've heard that it was not true. She did not say the words "let's keep it going for publicity" and I'm going to apologise to her when she comes out. - Lionel”
“He took over the official Facebook page today. He was asked this...
Your a lovely man Lionel but why do you believe what lee told you??
He hasn't been truthful all through CBB, he's lying bout loads of things! How can he con an 82 year old wise man of the world??
And his response was...
I believed him at the time, but since I've been out, I've heard that it was not true. She did not say the words "let's keep it going for publicity" and I'm going to apologise to her when she comes out. - Lionel”
And so because Lee told him this, Lionel swore down in his interview that she had said this. This shows that Lionel just repeats things that people have said and claims it to be the truth.
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“Thankfully this year, I've been "loathe" free, however I really didn't like his remarks to Emma last night about Casey. Uncalled for really. I was so dissappointed in him as I thought he was a fantastic housemate.”
“Thankfully this year, I've been "loathe" free, however I really didn't like his remarks to Emma last night about Casey. Uncalled for really. I was so dissappointed in him
as I thought he was a fantastic housemate.”
Awww cut him some slack.
He's 82.
At least Lionel admits when he is in the wrong, doesn't hold grudges, apologises for losing his temper and tries to be positive when talking about other people. All admirable qualities. I'm sure he will get on fine with Jasmine when he sees her again. He's been in showbiz for years and knows how to handle others with delicate egos.
lee laid the groundwork so that anything casey says or does will be suspicious now.
i don't believe for one second that casey is the only HM aware of the cameras, and that casey is the only one who has mentioned cameras or camera time whether it's in a serious or joking way.
lionel is a lee fan, and believed lee's story. if anyone else had said something about being on camera, he wouldn't have given it a second thought. and there's no way he hasn't talked about being on camera himself. they're all aware of it.
i don't believe for one second that casey is the only HM aware of the cameras, and that casey is the only one who has mentioned cameras or camera time whether it's in a serious or joking way.
lionel is a lee fan, and believed lee's story. if anyone else had said something about being on camera, he wouldn't have given it a second thought. and there's no way he hasn't talked about being on camera himself. they're all aware of it.
Originally Posted by zx50:
“And so because Lee told him this, Lionel swore down in his interview that she had said this. This shows that Lionel just repeats things that people have said and claims it to be the truth.”
“And so because Lee told him this, Lionel swore down in his interview that she had said this. This shows that Lionel just repeats things that people have said and claims it to be the truth.”
A bit sad, really. Luckily, for Casey's sake, nothing worse was said about her. Lee's lies could have actually harmed Casey's reputation, the way the hm just repeat everything said to them.
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