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Old 19-01-2014, 20:16
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1.5 was too low. 2.5 would have been acceptable if he just has to mark the lowest on Todd.
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Old 19-01-2014, 20:20
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Not really don't the judges mark what they do by half a point per trick etc? Considering he basically did F all 1.5 was quite generous.
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Old 19-01-2014, 20:21
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Having given Gareth 4.5 he could not give Todd much more
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Old 19-01-2014, 20:24
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It was pretty pathetic, no content to it, deserved a low score. Maybe Chris & Jayne can take some blame for that, awful solo routine, barely any skating, which is sort of the point of the show. Wasnt even entertaining this time.
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Old 19-01-2014, 20:42
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Not really don't the judges mark what they do by half a point per trick etc? Considering he basically did F all 1.5 was quite generous.
Still did more than he did last week and last year. At least he showed he can now stand upright and move about on ice which is not easy. It is not something humans are born to do.

This is why I am sooo glad the show was axed. There is a definitive attitude difference between those who can and those who cannot.
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Old 19-01-2014, 20:45
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It was pretty pathetic, no content to it, deserved a low score. Maybe Chris & Jayne can take some blame for that, awful solo routine, barely any skating, which is sort of the point of the show. Wasnt even entertaining this time.
You expected him to do back-flips? FFS! The guy is so lacking in confidence and self belief when he is on the ice it is a miracle he was able to do what he did. He is now at the level many of the better ones were at when they first took to the ice in week 1. Wobbly but able to stand without falling down. The likes of Ray Quinn never fell down. He took to ice like a duck to water. Giving him an unfair advantage over Todd.
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Old 19-01-2014, 20:45
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Still did more than he did last week and last year. At least he showed he can now stand upright and move about on ice which is not easy. It is not something humans are born to do.

This is why I am sooo glad the show was axed. There is a definitive attitude difference between those who can and those who cannot.
Fair enough but in an All Stars series having Todd here is pathetic and just ruins the show for me, and probably the people who left so he could stay last week. The idea is to have some excellent skaters not one who still looks like a virgin on the ice. You can tell by his face how embarrassed he is. Todd could skate for months and probably wouldn't improve one iota.
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Old 19-01-2014, 20:46
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Well Jason's a performance judge and as I have mentioned elsewhere,Todd's miming was lousy from the start,so........
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Old 19-01-2014, 20:59
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Jason was much too generous!

0 or 0.5 would have been nearer the mark!
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Old 19-01-2014, 21:00
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Could a judge give a 0? That would have been hilarious. If only for the reaction from the ridiculous panto audience.
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Old 19-01-2014, 21:02
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You expected him to do back-flips? FFS! The guy is so lacking in confidence and self belief when he is on the ice it is a miracle he was able to do what he did. He is now at the level many of the better ones were at when they first took to the ice in week 1. Wobbly but able to stand without falling down. The likes of Ray Quinn never fell down. He took to ice like a duck to water. Giving him an unfair advantage over Todd.
Back flips no, skate without look like bambi on ice yes.

So you think he should have stayed did you? LOL.
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Old 19-01-2014, 21:14
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You expected him to do back-flips? FFS! The guy is so lacking in confidence and self belief when he is on the ice it is a miracle he was able to do what he did. He is now at the level many of the better ones were at when they first took to the ice in week 1. Wobbly but able to stand without falling down. The likes of Ray Quinn never fell down. He took to ice like a duck to water. Giving him an unfair advantage over Todd.
I love this. It's the best unfair advantage I've seen. It's an outrage. He's just naturally better at it. Ban him. Ban them all. They're all just naturally better. Bring in some octogenarians with an ice phobia .
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Old 19-01-2014, 22:29
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I love this. It's the best unfair advantage I've seen. It's an outrage. He's just naturally better at it. Ban him. Ban them all. They're all just naturally better. Bring in some octogenarians with an ice phobia .
Can't believe they never found any celeb with an ice phobia, poor work by the casting team. I'm a celeb always manages to attract the celebs who are afraid of creepy crawlies & snakes.
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Old 19-01-2014, 22:32
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Jason was much too generous!

0 or 0.5 would have been nearer the mark!
I agree
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Old 20-01-2014, 09:04
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I love this. It's the best unfair advantage I've seen. It's an outrage. He's just naturally better at it. Ban him. Ban them all. They're all just naturally better. Bring in some octogenarians with an ice phobia .
I completely stand by what I said. And the fact I am far from impressed by that heap of garbage does little to persuade me to adopt your point of view.

If the likes of Sam and Ray are so naturally better and the likes of Todd, Joe and Keith (Chegwin) are not then I question why both groups were both allowed on to share the same rink. A vetting process in place then would have gone some way to ensure we didn't see the creation of the likes of Todd and Joe who just end up being on to be ridiculed and insulted by everyone, and all the celebrities start out on the same equal footing.

As part of the recruitment process, the producer should and could have got all the celebrities on the ice (not at the same time) to assess what their beginner level of skating skill is and if they can skate include them, and if they can't skate then simply exclude them. It is really the simplest and most logical way to ensure a competitive competition that is easy on the eye and treats everyone equally because they are all equal. It wouldn't be hard to spot the naturally better and gifted people. They would not be the ones falling. Naturally gifted folk do have this tendency to be differentiated by the fact they don't fail much at the first time of asking. This process would have been so much better for everyone.
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Old 20-01-2014, 10:35
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It was very disappointing that Todd was given a routine where he barely skated and his professional partner did not skate at all. In his skate off performance, Todd and his partner skated as a team, and although it was still poor, it was at least half decent.

Really felt for Zaarah having to skate again while clearly in a lot of pain.
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Old 20-01-2014, 13:49
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It was very disappointing that Todd was given a routine where he barely skated and his professional partner did not skate at all. In his skate off performance, Todd and his partner skated as a team, and although it was still poor, it was at least half decent.

Really felt for Zaarah having to skate again while clearly in a lot of pain.
But, he can barely skate. All he managed to achieve was something of a world record in pulling imbecile faces, (although he does something of a head start in that department anyway), whilst wobbling unsteadily on the ice.


As entertainment, absolutely not! As a mime act - total rubbish!

Kids in Primary School end of term plays could have acted him off the stage and of the ice too almost certainly.


Why on earth he was ever invited back is a mystery.
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Old 20-01-2014, 16:16
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Why on earth he was ever invited back is a mystery.
Why was he asked on at all? Likewise with Keith Chegwin and Joe Pasquale. It benefited nobody for them to be on. It did nobody any favours. It made them clowns to be laughed at, ridiculed and humiliated, their pro partners looked like the wanted the Earth to swallow them up because they were being a part of something they didn't want to be a part of, it brought out the worst insults I or anyone else has ever heard on TV from Jason and because it brought out some pretty offensive insults ever heard everyone else I bet felt pretty uncomfortable.

Why didn't the producer just, as I said in the previous post, just vet all the celebrities first. Assess their basic skill level in a private rink somewhere before letting them on. Those who are naturally talented would show it. The ease would be evident for all to see. They would not find it hard to do. They would not be falling down every 5 mins and would be gliding over the ice. Those are the celebrities that should have been allowed on.
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Old 20-01-2014, 16:57
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Why was he asked on at all? Likewise with Keith Chegwin and Joe Pasquale. It benefited nobody for them to be on. It did nobody any favours. It made them clowns to be laughed at, ridiculed and humiliated, their pro partners looked like the wanted the Earth to swallow them up because they were being a part of something they didn't want to be a part of, it brought out the worst insults I or anyone else has ever heard on TV from Jason and because it brought out some pretty offensive insults ever heard everyone else I bet felt pretty uncomfortable.

Why didn't the producer just, as I said in the previous post, just vet all the celebrities first. Assess their basic skill level in a private rink somewhere before letting them on. Those who are naturally talented would show it. The ease would be evident for all to see. They would not find it hard to do. They would not be falling down every 5 mins and would be gliding over the ice. Those are the celebrities that should have been allowed on.

You make very valid points.


Sadly, it seems that the 'producers' think that a measure of ritual humiliation is actually 'entertaining'.

Perhaps paying more regard to viewers tastes and preferences might just be a novel way forward for the future.

Producers are not particularly well equipped, artistically or otherwise to set public tastes. Rather, it should be the other way round.
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