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You switched to one of the two SLOW networks. Hope it was massively cheaper, or I would be returning/cancelling under 14 day money back and going back to EE or Three.
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#252 |
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There are a load of basement-level restaurants in London where only EDGE is available. I thought more 900MHz 3G would have been rolled out but I guess not.
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I live in the sticks and recently switched to O2 from EE, On EE I used to get 4G 80% of the time, I've yet to see O2 4G but not only that, H+ speed on O2 is 2mb at best, on EE it was 12mb+
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I was in a basement bar on new years day in Shoreditch and had good 4G signal surprisingly, not sure if it is was good for browsing etc etc but i could tweet.
I still find it weird the number of places that have no 3G at all on O2 but have GPRS and 4G. |
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I should have added, where 4G has been rolled out, which obviously it has in London, 4G is good in these basement-type places.
I still find it weird the number of places that have no 3G at all on O2 but have GPRS and 4G. |
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Well my O2 contract is up and I was just going to upgrade as usual with O2 to IPhone 6.
Having read that O2 4G is not one of the better ones I think I'll upgrade to EE. Does this sound reasonable. I use interner / e-mail and texting the most |
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Having read that O2 4G is not one of the better ones I think I'll upgrade to EE. |
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All depends on how O2 4G is where you frequent most, EE might be better, the same or worse. If i was in your shoes i'd try an EE PAYG sim begfore making a decision and then go with whats best for 4G and your pocket.
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Don't forget unlike the rest of the UK, London hasn't had new 2G/3G/4G sites installed. 4G has been "overlaid" over the existing legacy 2G and 3G networks by O2 North of the river and Vodafone the south. Depending on the sites they've used for the new 4G cells you may find some anomalies as you have suggested.
I understand that London hasn't had new sites installed. Does that mean 4G has been added by a software update, with no changes to the masts whatsoever? Why wouldn't they upgrade the network in the UK's biggest and most populous city? |
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Can you elaborate?
I understand that London hasn't had new sites installed. Does that mean 4G has been added by a software update, with no changes to the masts whatsoever? Why wouldn't they upgrade the network in the UK's biggest and most populous city? |
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Okay understood. Who was the bright spark who said, "let's skip London"?
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4G coverage on the O2 coverage map has been removed for Alton, Hants in the last 24 hours?
I understand why as it isn't there but it's odd that Alton's been removed but Alresford is still there, despite also having no O2 4G. Vodafone have had both places covered for at least two months! |
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Remember the 2014 promise?
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1752051
I don't think the moderators like old threads bumping. But can you remember the 98% promise by 2014? |
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I've moved my contract to Vodafone due to Three just been totally unusable after a certain time.
Currently getting 32mb speeds at all times of the day, which is certainly better than I was getting on Three. After 6pm I was lucky to even get 0.1 meg on Three and on a number of occasions the speedtest timed out. I gave Three plenty of opportunity to give me an update on how long it would take to fix and kept getting told 48 hours. All I can say is they need to change their 48 hour script |
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http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1752051
I don't think the moderators like old threads bumping. But can you remember the 98% promise by 2014? |
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http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1752051
I don't think the moderators like old threads bumping. But can you remember the 98% promise by 2014? |
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#267 |
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Everyone over promised with 4G. O2, EE and Three included.
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Promises before Ofcom decided to significantly increase the licence fee charges are probably worth ignoring. :-/
But even some companies..... cough *Three* cough are still quoting 98% 4G coverage by the end of 2015. Sure it could happen..... but it won't. |
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I can agree with that.
But even some companies..... cough *Three* cough are still quoting 98% 4G coverage by the end of 2015. Sure it could happen..... but it won't. |
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I would be shocked if Three manage 80% by end of this year never mind 98%.
If they don't do that I give up. |
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Just a small point but it is, in theory, very easy for Three (or any network) to get to 98% coverage outdoor. In fact, taken to extreme, with 800MHz you can get that sort of coverage by using less than a thousand sites. It would be a very "thin" 98% and capacity would be awful. Obviously no network would go that far but I say it because quoting a coverage percentage figure doesn't tell the whole story and the same percentage (even at the same frequency) can still mean a huge difference in number of sites.
Years ago new networks tended to be rolled out more like that with very few sites high up as possible covering massive areas in the early stages to give a fast national rollout. Later extra sites would be added as capacity was required. Looking at some Three 800 sites, this seems to be more obvious with them being sited pretty high up. In fact they are appearing on some sites which EE are not touching for 800 or 1800 because they are too high up. This could be a clever strategy if it allows them to easily overtake the others for coverage provided they come back later and add all the other sites for capacity so quality of service doesn't suffer. If they don't add enough capacity sites then it just means they will have national coverage on the cheap. |
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Well Three are claiming 50% outdoor population coverage with just ~2,500 sites nationwide.
As far as I'm aware they have planned ~5,000 sites to get them to over 80% coverage. But not sure after that. I do agree with you that 4G coverage on Three will be quite thin overall by this time next year despite claiming a high percentage. Three are aiming for a total ~17k 3G sites before the end of this year (up from ~10k in 2010 and ~6k in 2005). It's true that you can claim a high percentage with a small amount of sites, similar to how all networks are at the moment. But I do believe that all networks, EE for sure, are working on getting the majority of their sites ready for 4G. |
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#273 |
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Yeah EE 4G is starting to get quite dense where as Three is waffer thin.
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Just a small point but it is, in theory, very easy for Three (or any network) to get to 98% coverage outdoor. In fact, taken to extreme, with 800MHz you can get that sort of coverage by using less than a thousand sites. It would be a very "thin" 98% and capacity would be awful. Obviously no network would go that far but I say it because quoting a coverage percentage figure doesn't tell the whole story and the same percentage (even at the same frequency) can still mean a huge difference in number of sites.
Years ago new networks tended to be rolled out more like that with very few sites high up as possible covering massive areas in the early stages to give a fast national rollout. Later extra sites would be added as capacity was required. Looking at some Three 800 sites, this seems to be more obvious with them being sited pretty high up. In fact they are appearing on some sites which EE are not touching for 800 or 1800 because they are too high up. This could be a clever strategy if it allows them to easily overtake the others for coverage provided they come back later and add all the other sites for capacity so quality of service doesn't suffer. If they don't add enough capacity sites then it just means they will have national coverage on the cheap.
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Another MIP mast has gone live near Taunton Devon... Vodafone now showing 4G available in the area and along some of the North Devon coast with Bristol coming on line in the next few weeks!
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