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Vodafone and O2 4G experience thread
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Darreninessex
05-04-2016
Sorry is HD voice a different product from 4G voice
packages
05-04-2016
Pretty sure that's been published early. Haven't heard anything from people on here or websites saying it's been tested in public like EE yet. Also says Only on Vodafone. Um, Three had it first, then EE?
jonmorris
05-04-2016
Originally Posted by Darreninessex:
“Sorry is HD voice a different product from 4G voice”

Yes, but 4G voice likely uses the same quality (bitrate/encoding) so to the end user they're the same.

I saw Vodafone testing VoLTE last year at their test lab, but I haven't heard of outside trials although it stands to reason they must have been doing them by now.
Aye Up
06-04-2016
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“Yes, but 4G voice likely uses the same quality (bitrate/encoding) so to the end user they're the same.

I saw Vodafone testing VoLTE last year at their test lab, but I haven't heard of outside trials although it stands to reason they must have been doing them by now.”

They are..........
jaffboy151
06-04-2016
Looks like Whitchurch in Shropshire might be being lined up for some cornerstone upgrades in the not to distant future, nothing on the Vodafone maps yet but alot of telecoms work scheduled around the 2g McDonald's site and one other site in town, so hopefully not too far away.
M1kos
06-04-2016
I've been sent an Image of someone's who's seen volte on Vodafone he saw it in Birmingham on an S6 but it didn't last long
clewsy
06-04-2016
Something is drastically wrong ... Yesterday I was in the middle of rural countryside, in the middle of nowhere ....

I had a range of 4g and 3g that actually worked on o2! This is definitely an improvement on last year where it wasn't present.
thebennyboy
06-04-2016
Originally Posted by clewsy:
“Something is drastically wrong ... Yesterday I was in the middle of rural countryside, in the middle of nowhere ....

I had a range of 4g and 3g that actually worked on o2! This is definitely an improvement on last year where it wasn't present.”

Bloody hell.
jonmorris
06-04-2016
Originally Posted by clewsy:
“Something is drastically wrong ... Yesterday I was in the middle of rural countryside, in the middle of nowhere ....

I had a range of 4g and 3g that actually worked on o2! This is definitely an improvement on last year where it wasn't present.”

Then you woke up..!

Seriously though, I always hoped the roll out would see major changes after years of neglect, and it's proving to be true. I don't have an active O2 SIM right now, but my Vodafone experiences show just how much things have improved - even including near constant 3G coverage from London to Birmingham on the train (and a lot of 4G).
moox
06-04-2016
I'm seeing O2 800 where I am (semi rural). I don't have a SIM with any credit on it (or 4G access) to test it out, though. I assume there's 900MHz 3G too

Vodafone 3G900 has been around here for a while, but as I've said repeatedly, it's been rubbish due to poor backhaul
jaffboy151
06-04-2016
Cornerstone are moving onto upgrading more larger rural masts now, at least in my area anyway..
Not seen many 2g only ones getting done yet but upgrades to older 2100mhz 3g sites which often had panels only facing in limited directions like towards roads and towns, now have better, all round panels with better backhaul, 900mhz 3g along with the 800mhz 4g meanibg they now travel far into the countryside. If only they could get a few more upgraded.
clewsy
06-04-2016
Yes by no means is it perfect, but being able to stream the ITV Hub (just to see if it really worked) in the middle of a farmers field in the country is a million miles from the old o2.

Deffo agree that we need more work still but how its going at the moment it's getting noticeability better.
CheshireBumpkin
06-04-2016
Originally Posted by jaffboy151:
“Looks like Whitchurch in Shropshire might be being lined up for some cornerstone upgrades in the not to distant future, nothing on the Vodafone maps yet but alot of telecoms work scheduled around the 2g McDonald's site and one other site in town, so hopefully not too far away.”

That's good news - I may have some choice when it comes to local providers...

Can you remember when it was scheduled for?
jaffboy151
06-04-2016
Originally Posted by CheshireBumpkin:
“That's good news - I may have some choice when it comes to local providers...

Can you remember when it was scheduled for?”

One was some work near the O2 site in Barking Hill Road this week though several operators use that site so might be a red herring. The work near the McDonald's is end of the month, it's only fibre work so not 100% accurate, but I've always seen such work near other masts just before going live a short while later.
clewsy
06-04-2016
Are they still short of poles? I know there was an issue that they have all these sites upgraded, but no new poles to put in place. There is one round here that gone done and a box placed over the hole for where I guess the future mast is going.

Maybe this will be the year when most of the UK gets switched on. Then fill in those final smaller gaps and suspect that will be job done.

If the Three deal doesn't happen. Three could look very 3rd world without some investment in 4g.
CheshireBumpkin
06-04-2016
Originally Posted by jaffboy151:
“One was some work near the O2 site in Barking Hill Road this week though several operators use that site so might be a red herring. The work near the McDonald's is end of the month, it's only fibre work so not 100% accurate, but I've always seen such work near other masts just before going live a short while later.”

Thanks - fingers crossed....
jaffboy151
07-04-2016
Originally Posted by clewsy:
“Are they still short of poles? I know there was an issue that they have all these sites upgraded, but no new poles to put in place. There is one round here that gone done and a box placed over the hole for where I guess the future mast is going.”

Must be over a dozen sites like that waiting for poles that I've seen around here, 2 sites are getting new poles in Telford this month, 1 had the cabinets and cabling done end of last year and is just waiting for the new pole to be fitted along with 4 or more others in the town, and another is a full 3 day full upgrade from scratch, not sure how they decide which site needs priority. But still seems that poles are in short supply still.
mobilecentre
07-04-2016
Originally Posted by jaffboy151:
“Must be over a dozen sites like that waiting for poles that I've seen around here, 2 sites are getting new poles in Telford this month, 1 had the cabinets and cabling done end of last year and is just waiting for the new pole to be fitted along with 4 or more others in the town, and another is a full 3 day full upgrade from scratch, not sure how they decide which site needs priority. But still seems that poles are in short supply still.”

Same here we have had rural lattice towers done but only one single pole upgrade since the start of the rollout
beans0ntoast
08-04-2016
Update! Update!

CTIL mast at Hargrave, Northamptonshire, has recently been upgraded.

The old Vodafone 2G900 panels have been left up

The old O2 2G900 panels have been taken down (was 3 or 4 panels per sector?) and have been replaced with long thin CTIL panels. From what I've read they might be dual input, low band panels (low/low) so 2G900, 3G900 and 4G800?

I certainly wouldn't expect 3G2100 or 4G1800 to crop up on such a rural mast.

As an aside EE/3 haven't touched their panels yet (on the same water tower mast) and are still doing 2G1800/3G2100.
M1kos
09-04-2016
As the EE brigade continue to post speed test results here's one from Vodafone 4G+ yesterday in Plumstead https://www.dropbox.com/s/6r2s9abq73...30056.png?dl=0
jaffboy151
09-04-2016
I was half asleep looking at that and for a few seconds I thought 0mbps on 4g+
Wtf!
Then I saw the speed in the corner, wow that's quick! No speed cap on Vodafone then, that's for sure..
jonmorris
09-04-2016
Originally Posted by M1kos:
“As the EE brigade continue to post speed test results here's one from Vodafone 4G+ yesterday in Plumstead https://www.dropbox.com/s/6r2s9abq73...30056.png?dl=0”

Vodafone doesn't have a cap, so you should be able to top 150.

Unfortunately, of late I've not had anything approaching 100, let alone 200, on Vodafone.

London Victoria station used to have 4G+ giving almost 200, but now it's down to 20 or less (EE and Three are equally low, relatively speaking) and that's within the space of 6-8 months.

This all suggests that people are increasingly using 4G and increasingly consuming data to the point where we may see large falls in speed soon, and the networks will have to keep pumping money in to cope with demand.
clewsy
09-04-2016
I dont get all this hyoe over double speed. With the data limits on tariffs it all seems a bit pointless as it's not like your running a server farm off your phone!

I'd be happy with 3meg but constant and in most places. Then if I want to find something, watch a video etc I just can.

I can't help thinking some of this double speed talk is just marketing talk to make people pay more, for something in most cases they never actually see any benefit from.
jonmorris
09-04-2016
If I want to use this forum or stream a film, I don't need crazy speeds.

If I've just recorded a short video at an event and want it on YouTube as quick as possible, I need speed.

At home, uploading a 1.3GB video was going to take over 600 minutes (10 hours) on ADSL. It was 25 minutes on 4G!

So speed is very important for some uses, and 1.3GB is 1.3GB whatever the speed.
clewsy
09-04-2016
I understand you in your role Jon could want and need that, however most of us retail customers could get by on 3meg I'm sure?
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