Vodafone and O2 4G experience thread

camer_000 · 22-04-2016, 16:28

I have to say the new Vodafone app on Android looks way better than before! Now they just need to sort the website out.

beans0ntoast · 22-04-2016, 19:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by InfamousTeal

Vodafone 4G planned map now inverts the current 4G planned map

silly vodafone.

I noticed that as well... oh deary me, poor vodafone

clewsy · 23-04-2016, 07:59

I'm assuming that's now showing where the masts will cover? As if so, some of these new upgrade masts have a fair distance on them.

maverickjesus · 23-04-2016, 10:12

Yeah its not inverse - either they have changed the metric they are using for coverage distance, or the power is being turned up. Most of the new purple areas sit in previously yellow boundaries.

EDIT: Actually in some areas it is backwards, like Bristol. Not sure how you could break Arc in two different ways like that.

Stereo Steve · 23-04-2016, 18:44

Well my postcode now says 'There is work planned for 4G' which is not what it said last week. However, the map makes little sense. All the hilltops which were yellow have now gone mostly purple, indication an increase in power? Perhaps but pretty much everything else has gone grey. 4G outdoors to match their 2G.

Now, OK, if they did the big TV towers like Marldon and Princetown, you would get a huge whack of coverage in one go but those areas don't show much improvement directly around them. So, I can't see they are turning them on and they are the only ones that can cover huge swathes of the rolling Devon countryside. So I think it's a bug of some sort. I hope it's not but I can't see the logic in it.

Stereo Steve · 23-04-2016, 18:46

Oh and lots of town centre areas in Newton and Torquay are purple now and planned to turn white.

clewsy · 23-04-2016, 18:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stereo Steve

Oh and lots of town centre areas in Newton and Torquay are purple now and planned to turn white.

That's because it's only showing the new masts coverage it appears and taking off the existing.

This is why I was saying about how far these masts travel

beans0ntoast · 23-04-2016, 20:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stereo Steve

Oh and lots of town centre areas in Newton and Torquay are purple now and planned to turn white.

If you look for Higham Ferrers (Northamptonshire) you'll also see that HF is planned to go white, yet has been 4G'ed for a couple of months now.

I still think that Vodafone have inverted their current coverage... or messed up somehow.

jaffboy151 · 24-04-2016, 19:43

If you look closely or are quite familiar with the where last week's past and future coverage maps were showing, no real extra areas are bring covered, it's screwed up in some way, like a hybrid merger of the 3g map and the 4g, the white areas I've looked at are around known mast locations and it's as though the white areas are 2100mhz 3g coverage areas overlayed by mistake, they could of course be 2600mhz 4g but can see the white areas around low capacity monopoles which are not able to have 2600mhz 4g on them.
Did get excited when it said 4g work was planned at my home he, for a minute I thought they were upgrading the 2g masts near to me..
But it's just an annoying screw up, which I hope they sort out next Thursday.

red_snow · 25-04-2016, 13:51

I am just moving from EE to O2 as although VF has better 4G coverage, I cannot take another round of their CS!!

Question ......
I notice in some places, for example, the far South West of Cornwall where VF has 3G but O2 is still 2G! Any idea why O2 are still on 2G?

I also noticed that VF's coverage checker indicates 4G coming to some of those areas ....... is it a case that O2 will wait for this and then perhaps provision 3G/4G?

Forgive my ignorance, I am not that well informed regarding the Cornerstone project.

Apart from that, I have already enjoyed 4G in 2 places INDOORS with O2 where EE is no signal or 2G. Now I know outside EE has much more 3G/4G and of course yesterday I found myself with 2G only with O2 on quite a major A road, but indoor coverage I think is more important to me.

Thank you.

M1kos · 25-04-2016, 18:32

Vodafone is doing the cornerstone upgrades in the West Country eventually o2 and Vodafone will have the same coverage pretty much. O2's map is slow to update and Vodas 4G future map is currently wrong but their 3G map is quite accurate finally! for both existing and future

mobilecentre · 25-04-2016, 19:35

O2 have updated their map today

moox · 25-04-2016, 19:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by red_snow

I am just moving from EE to O2 as although VF has better 4G coverage, I cannot take another round of their CS!!

Question ......
I notice in some places, for example, the far South West of Cornwall where VF has 3G but O2 is still 2G! Any idea why O2 are still on 2G?

Certainly in my bit of Cornwall, Vodafone has had 3G for a while, on 900MHz. But they never upgraded the backhaul so the actual performance is extremely poor, that it's basically worthless. O2 has had 2100MHz 3G for longer, and (if you can get a signal) the performance is actually quite good. EE/3 obviously win, as usual - EE has the place bathed in 4G and 3 have turned on a few cell sites recently.

I would guess that the difference is still down to the fact that Cornerstone hasn't made a huge impact here yet. Some places have been upgraded, but these were the towns/cities that already had decent coverage from both networks.

I haven't checked the maps recently but you could basically tell where the south west starts - the continuous block of 4G "ends" at the somerset border

LegendaryAced · 26-04-2016, 10:38

It seems that Vodafone has fixed their 4G planned map now.

Stereo Steve · 26-04-2016, 11:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryAced

It seems that Vodafone has fixed their 4G planned map now.

Back to the South Hams being a 4G free zone. Oh well, it was nice while it lasted!

mobilecentre · 26-04-2016, 11:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stereo Steve

Back to the South Hams being a 4G free zone. Oh well, it was nice while it lasted!

red_snow · 26-04-2016, 20:38

Well I have to say ........ and of course this will screw things up, O2 has been pretty good so far

Popped new SIM in on Sunday after EE gave me my PAC code. The O2 SIM was not allowing any 4G at all. So on Sunday afternoon I took to live chat and prepared myself for the worst.
1. I was told that the Blackberry add-on had accidentally been left on the account, it would be removed and I would see 4G on Monday
2. My other issue is that I'd already asked for a port of my O2 PAYG to Contract SIM. I said I had the EE PAC but wanted to be absolutely sure that that PAYG request would be cancelled and my EE Port replace the request. I was told 100% that this would be the case and it would happen today (Tuesday).

Well Monday came around and sure enough, 4G was available.

This morning, I noticed my signal drop ........ within 1/2 hour or so it came back. I thought number port? Called another mobile and sure enough my old EE number was showing as the calling number. Instantaneously the O2 app also showed my old EE number as my contract number.

Touch wood ...... all good and very happy with the O2 switch and customer services.

Also had a nice strong 4G signal inside a third location where EE would become flakey

Bentoni · 26-04-2016, 20:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by camer_000

I have to say the new Vodafone app on Android looks way better than before! Now they just need to sort the website out.

The MyVodafone app on iOS is still ... year 2007

CheshireBumpkin · 27-04-2016, 11:42

I'm a bit intrigued by this - there's a little rural 2G-only mast down my lane that's shared by O2 and Airwave. It gives solid 2G voice performance currently and I've never expected anything to be done with it really.

Yesterday I walked past with the dog and there were a couple of guys working on the panels - they weren't in a position where I could ask what was going on unfortunately!

Mast experts might get a better idea by zooming in on the following picture - apologies for the pooch photo-bomb...

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resi...nt=photo%2cjpg

I walked past again later in the day and there was no sign of new panels or any other changes. Still 2G of course. Perhaps it was just routine maintenance - it's a micro-backhaul site and there's no other backhaul option without digging fibre down a mile of country lane. I can't imagine it would see an upgrade to be honest.

I'm just nosy - I'd love to know what they were doing!

M1kos · 27-04-2016, 14:49

Newquay Cornwall now live #Vo2 #4G

packages · 27-04-2016, 16:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by M1kos

Newquay Cornwall now live #Vo2 #4G

Newquay just live with 4G? That is surprising.

M1kos · 27-04-2016, 17:21

Also Aberystwyth as well apparently

rasseru16 · 27-04-2016, 18:34

Not all all impressed with Vodafone's network in my home town, consistent sub 1mbps D/L on H+ all day and 4G at my work town is around 6Mbps :/ Gonna get my sim only cancelled today.

interactiv-uk · 27-04-2016, 18:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by rasseru16

Not all all impressed with Vodafone's network in my home town, consistent sub 1mbps D/L on H+ all day and 4G at my work town is around 6Mbps :/ Gonna get my sim only cancelled today.

I've found VF to be a lot slower than O2 in most places I've tested.. They're better on paper but there must be something in the backhaul..

M1kos · 27-04-2016, 19:28

Voda have a higher smartphone penetration than o2 might be a factor

27-04-2016, 11:42	#3319
CheshireBumpkin Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Cheshire/Shropshire Border Posts: 592	O2 Mast Work? I'm a bit intrigued by this - there's a little rural 2G-only mast down my lane that's shared by O2 and Airwave. It gives solid 2G voice performance currently and I've never expected anything to be done with it really. Yesterday I walked past with the dog and there were a couple of guys working on the panels - they weren't in a position where I could ask what was going on unfortunately! Mast experts might get a better idea by zooming in on the following picture - apologies for the pooch photo-bomb... https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resi...nt=photo%2cjpg I walked past again later in the day and there was no sign of new panels or any other changes. Still 2G of course. Perhaps it was just routine maintenance - it's a micro-backhaul site and there's no other backhaul option without digging fibre down a mile of country lane. I can't imagine it would see an upgrade to be honest. I'm just nosy - I'd love to know what they were doing!

22-04-2016, 16:28	#3301
camer_000 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 75	I have to say the new Vodafone app on Android looks way better than before! Now they just need to sort the website out.

22-04-2016, 19:23	#3302
beans0ntoast Inactive Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 932	Quote: Originally Posted by InfamousTeal Vodafone 4G planned map now inverts the current 4G planned map silly vodafone. I noticed that as well... oh deary me, poor vodafone

23-04-2016, 07:59	#3303
clewsy Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Midlands Posts: 2,860	I'm assuming that's now showing where the masts will cover? As if so, some of these new upgrade masts have a fair distance on them.

23-04-2016, 10:12	#3304
maverickjesus Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 100	Yeah its not inverse - either they have changed the metric they are using for coverage distance, or the power is being turned up. Most of the new purple areas sit in previously yellow boundaries. EDIT: Actually in some areas it is backwards, like Bristol. Not sure how you could break Arc in two different ways like that.

23-04-2016, 18:44	#3305
Stereo Steve Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,378	Well my postcode now says 'There is work planned for 4G' which is not what it said last week. However, the map makes little sense. All the hilltops which were yellow have now gone mostly purple, indication an increase in power? Perhaps but pretty much everything else has gone grey. 4G outdoors to match their 2G. Now, OK, if they did the big TV towers like Marldon and Princetown, you would get a huge whack of coverage in one go but those areas don't show much improvement directly around them. So, I can't see they are turning them on and they are the only ones that can cover huge swathes of the rolling Devon countryside. So I think it's a bug of some sort. I hope it's not but I can't see the logic in it.

23-04-2016, 18:46	#3306
Stereo Steve Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,378	Oh and lots of town centre areas in Newton and Torquay are purple now and planned to turn white.

23-04-2016, 18:52	#3307
clewsy Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Midlands Posts: 2,860	Quote: Originally Posted by Stereo Steve Oh and lots of town centre areas in Newton and Torquay are purple now and planned to turn white. That's because it's only showing the new masts coverage it appears and taking off the existing. This is why I was saying about how far these masts travel

23-04-2016, 20:52	#3308
beans0ntoast Inactive Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 932	Quote: Originally Posted by Stereo Steve Oh and lots of town centre areas in Newton and Torquay are purple now and planned to turn white. If you look for Higham Ferrers (Northamptonshire) you'll also see that HF is planned to go white, yet has been 4G'ed for a couple of months now. I still think that Vodafone have inverted their current coverage... or messed up somehow.

24-04-2016, 19:43	#3309
jaffboy151 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Woore, Cheshire/Shropshire Posts: 1,675	If you look closely or are quite familiar with the where last week's past and future coverage maps were showing, no real extra areas are bring covered, it's screwed up in some way, like a hybrid merger of the 3g map and the 4g, the white areas I've looked at are around known mast locations and it's as though the white areas are 2100mhz 3g coverage areas overlayed by mistake, they could of course be 2600mhz 4g but can see the white areas around low capacity monopoles which are not able to have 2600mhz 4g on them. Did get excited when it said 4g work was planned at my home he, for a minute I thought they were upgrading the 2g masts near to me.. But it's just an annoying screw up, which I hope they sort out next Thursday.

25-04-2016, 13:51	#3310
red_snow Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 133	I am just moving from EE to O2 as although VF has better 4G coverage, I cannot take another round of their CS!! Question ...... I notice in some places, for example, the far South West of Cornwall where VF has 3G but O2 is still 2G! Any idea why O2 are still on 2G? I also noticed that VF's coverage checker indicates 4G coming to some of those areas ....... is it a case that O2 will wait for this and then perhaps provision 3G/4G? Forgive my ignorance, I am not that well informed regarding the Cornerstone project. Apart from that, I have already enjoyed 4G in 2 places INDOORS with O2 where EE is no signal or 2G. Now I know outside EE has much more 3G/4G and of course yesterday I found myself with 2G only with O2 on quite a major A road, but indoor coverage I think is more important to me. Thank you.

25-04-2016, 18:32	#3311
M1kos Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 499	Vodafone is doing the cornerstone upgrades in the West Country eventually o2 and Vodafone will have the same coverage pretty much. O2's map is slow to update and Vodas 4G future map is currently wrong but their 3G map is quite accurate finally! for both existing and future

25-04-2016, 19:35	#3312
mobilecentre Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 103	O2 have updated their map today

25-04-2016, 19:40	#3313
moox Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 14,645	Quote: Originally Posted by red_snow I am just moving from EE to O2 as although VF has better 4G coverage, I cannot take another round of their CS!! Question ...... I notice in some places, for example, the far South West of Cornwall where VF has 3G but O2 is still 2G! Any idea why O2 are still on 2G? Certainly in my bit of Cornwall, Vodafone has had 3G for a while, on 900MHz. But they never upgraded the backhaul so the actual performance is extremely poor, that it's basically worthless. O2 has had 2100MHz 3G for longer, and (if you can get a signal) the performance is actually quite good. EE/3 obviously win, as usual - EE has the place bathed in 4G and 3 have turned on a few cell sites recently. I would guess that the difference is still down to the fact that Cornerstone hasn't made a huge impact here yet. Some places have been upgraded, but these were the towns/cities that already had decent coverage from both networks. I haven't checked the maps recently but you could basically tell where the south west starts - the continuous block of 4G "ends" at the somerset border

26-04-2016, 10:38	#3314
LegendaryAced Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 125	It seems that Vodafone has fixed their 4G planned map now.

26-04-2016, 11:02	#3315
Stereo Steve Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,378	Quote: Originally Posted by LegendaryAced It seems that Vodafone has fixed their 4G planned map now. Back to the South Hams being a 4G free zone. Oh well, it was nice while it lasted!

26-04-2016, 11:07	#3316
mobilecentre Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 103	Quote: Originally Posted by Stereo Steve Back to the South Hams being a 4G free zone. Oh well, it was nice while it lasted!

26-04-2016, 20:38	#3317
red_snow Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 133	Well I have to say ........ and of course this will screw things up, O2 has been pretty good so far Popped new SIM in on Sunday after EE gave me my PAC code. The O2 SIM was not allowing any 4G at all. So on Sunday afternoon I took to live chat and prepared myself for the worst. 1. I was told that the Blackberry add-on had accidentally been left on the account, it would be removed and I would see 4G on Monday 2. My other issue is that I'd already asked for a port of my O2 PAYG to Contract SIM. I said I had the EE PAC but wanted to be absolutely sure that that PAYG request would be cancelled and my EE Port replace the request. I was told 100% that this would be the case and it would happen today (Tuesday). Well Monday came around and sure enough, 4G was available. This morning, I noticed my signal drop ........ within 1/2 hour or so it came back. I thought number port? Called another mobile and sure enough my old EE number was showing as the calling number. Instantaneously the O2 app also showed my old EE number as my contract number. Touch wood ...... all good and very happy with the O2 switch and customer services. Also had a nice strong 4G signal inside a third location where EE would become flakey

26-04-2016, 20:42	#3318
Bentoni Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Posts: 55	Quote: Originally Posted by camer_000 I have to say the new Vodafone app on Android looks way better than before! Now they just need to sort the website out. The MyVodafone app on iOS is still ... year 2007

27-04-2016, 14:49	#3320
M1kos Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 499	Newquay Cornwall now live #Vo2 #4G

27-04-2016, 16:39	#3321
packages Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 879	Quote: Originally Posted by M1kos Newquay Cornwall now live #Vo2 #4G Newquay just live with 4G? That is surprising.

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27-04-2016, 17:21	#3322
M1kos Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 499	Also Aberystwyth as well apparently

27-04-2016, 18:34	#3323
rasseru16 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Suffolk, East Anglia Posts: 666	Not all all impressed with Vodafone's network in my home town, consistent sub 1mbps D/L on H+ all day and 4G at my work town is around 6Mbps :/ Gonna get my sim only cancelled today.

27-04-2016, 18:44	#3324
interactiv-uk Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 587	Quote: Originally Posted by rasseru16 Not all all impressed with Vodafone's network in my home town, consistent sub 1mbps D/L on H+ all day and 4G at my work town is around 6Mbps :/ Gonna get my sim only cancelled today. I've found VF to be a lot slower than O2 in most places I've tested.. They're better on paper but there must be something in the backhaul..

27-04-2016, 19:28	#3325
M1kos Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 499	Voda have a higher smartphone penetration than o2 might be a factor