Originally Posted by Stereo Steve:
“I'm 4 minutes away now and within range.”
“I'm 4 minutes away now and within range.”
Eliminate target once zeroed.
Please.
For all our sakes.
Vodafone and O2 4G experience thread
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Originally Posted by CheshireBumpkin:
“Eliminate target once zeroed.
Please.
For all our sakes.
”
“Eliminate target once zeroed.
Please.
For all our sakes.
”
Haha! I've just read back (properly!) and realise that I've just inadvertantly given the order to eliminate Devon...
Needless to say, that wasn't my intention.... 
Abort! Abort!
Originally Posted by RileyM:
“I also got a really impressive speed test on O2 4G in Shelford, Cambridgeshire
https://imgur.com/a/BW25t”
“I also got a really impressive speed test on O2 4G in Shelford, Cambridgeshire
https://imgur.com/a/BW25t”
nice speeds!!
and yours are actually at an acceptable time of day unlike mine, lol, you might be able to get even faster if you do one at like 3 or 4 in the morning.
No news from Devon this morning, did the abort command come through too late?
Looked at the vod map update for this week, seems to have been a halt in territory gaining upgrades planned as such, seem to be concentrating on filling/bulking up the coverage in existing areas in my part of the world for now.
I agree with the view that the east is more advanced then the west, many rural aras I visited last year in the north east where it was 2g only are now showing 4g,
Just some 2g planned to go 3g over the west is all I can see.
What Dench mean in regards to the O2 side using 4g RRU's while the Vodafone side are using 3G RRU's?
Looked at the vod map update for this week, seems to have been a halt in territory gaining upgrades planned as such, seem to be concentrating on filling/bulking up the coverage in existing areas in my part of the world for now.
I agree with the view that the east is more advanced then the west, many rural aras I visited last year in the north east where it was 2g only are now showing 4g,
Just some 2g planned to go 3g over the west is all I can see.
What Dench mean in regards to the O2 side using 4g RRU's while the Vodafone side are using 3G RRU's?
Originally Posted by CheshireBumpkin:
“Haha! I've just read back (properly!) and realise that I've just inadvertantly given the order to eliminate Devon... Needless to say, that wasn't my intention....
Abort! Abort!”
“Haha! I've just read back (properly!) and realise that I've just inadvertantly given the order to eliminate Devon...
Needless to say, that wasn't my intention.... Abort! Abort!”
Oops, I actually thought you meant Dimbleby. Damn. Umm...
Originally Posted by jaffboy151:
“No news from Devon this morning, did the abort command come through too late?
Looked at the vod map update for this week, seems to have been a halt in territory gaining upgrades planned as such, seem to be concentrating on filling/bulking up the coverage in existing areas in my part of the world for now.
I agree with the view that the east is more advanced then the west, many rural aras I visited last year in the north east where it was 2g only are now showing 4g,
Just some 2g planned to go 3g over the west is all I can see.
What Dench mean in regards to the O2 side using 4g RRU's while the Vodafone side are using 3G RRU's?”
“No news from Devon this morning, did the abort command come through too late?
Looked at the vod map update for this week, seems to have been a halt in territory gaining upgrades planned as such, seem to be concentrating on filling/bulking up the coverage in existing areas in my part of the world for now.
I agree with the view that the east is more advanced then the west, many rural aras I visited last year in the north east where it was 2g only are now showing 4g,
Just some 2g planned to go 3g over the west is all I can see.
What Dench mean in regards to the O2 side using 4g RRU's while the Vodafone side are using 3G RRU's?”
Yeah, I was wondering the exact same thing. Its also really disappointing that voda are still cheaping out after all the years of lack of investment.
Originally Posted by jaffboy151:
“What Dench mean in regards to the O2 side using 4g RRU's while the Vodafone side are using 3G RRU's?”
“What Dench mean in regards to the O2 side using 4g RRU's while the Vodafone side are using 3G RRU's?”
Originally Posted by Ashley_Bradbury:
“Yeah, I was wondering the exact same thing. Its also really disappointing that voda are still cheaping out after all the years of lack of investment.”
“Yeah, I was wondering the exact same thing. Its also really disappointing that voda are still cheaping out after all the years of lack of investment.”
I take it Dench is me
RRU stands for remote radio unit, basically bringing the radio closer to the antenna, rather than the radio being all the way down at the base of the mast. This boosts radio performance, as there is less signal attenuation from the feeder cable.
From what I've seen, in places Vodafone are responsible for the cornerstone rollout, Vodafone have a habit of using Huawei 3G RRUs. Where O2 are responsible for the rollout, they tend to use Ericsson 4G RRUs, I'm not sure about NSN equipment though.
To be honest it might not even make that much difference, but it just seems to me like O2 are putting more effort into their rollout what with 4G 1800 and 4G RRUs, where Vodafone are cheaping out with lacklustre 4G 2600 rollout outside London, and 3G RRUs from what I've seen.
Originally Posted by Denco1:
“I take it Dench is me
RRU stands for remote radio unit, basically bringing the radio closer to the antenna, rather than the radio being all the way down at the base of the mast. This boosts radio performance, as there is less signal attenuation from the feeder cable.
From what I've seen, in places Vodafone are responsible for the cornerstone rollout, Vodafone have a habit of using Huawei 3G RRUs. Where O2 are responsible for the rollout, they tend to use Ericsson 4G RRUs, I'm not sure about NSN equipment though.
To be honest it might not even make that much difference, but it just seems to me like O2 are putting more effort into their rollout what with 4G 1800 and 4G RRUs, where Vodafone are cheaping out with lacklustre 4G 2600 rollout outside London, and 3G RRUs from what I've seen.”
“I take it Dench is me
RRU stands for remote radio unit, basically bringing the radio closer to the antenna, rather than the radio being all the way down at the base of the mast. This boosts radio performance, as there is less signal attenuation from the feeder cable.
From what I've seen, in places Vodafone are responsible for the cornerstone rollout, Vodafone have a habit of using Huawei 3G RRUs. Where O2 are responsible for the rollout, they tend to use Ericsson 4G RRUs, I'm not sure about NSN equipment though.
To be honest it might not even make that much difference, but it just seems to me like O2 are putting more effort into their rollout what with 4G 1800 and 4G RRUs, where Vodafone are cheaping out with lacklustre 4G 2600 rollout outside London, and 3G RRUs from what I've seen.”
yeah, I foolishly took out a contract with voda 4 months ago. I thought they would be better than three for when im in manchester. Every time I go though the congestion on 4G is shocking at three worked far better. Just trying to send a video on whatsapp times out half the time.
Originally Posted by Denco1:
“I take it Dench is me
RRU stands for remote radio unit, basically bringing the radio closer to the antenna, rather than the radio being all the way down at the base of the mast. This boosts radio performance, as there is less signal attenuation from the feeder cable.
From what I've seen, in places Vodafone are responsible for the cornerstone rollout, Vodafone have a habit of using Huawei 3G RRUs. Where O2 are responsible for the rollout, they tend to use Ericsson 4G RRUs, I'm not sure about NSN equipment though.
To be honest it might not even make that much difference, but it just seems to me like O2 are putting more effort into their rollout what with 4G 1800 and 4G RRUs, where Vodafone are cheaping out with lacklustre 4G 2600 rollout outside London, and 3G RRUs from what I've seen.”
“I take it Dench is me
RRU stands for remote radio unit, basically bringing the radio closer to the antenna, rather than the radio being all the way down at the base of the mast. This boosts radio performance, as there is less signal attenuation from the feeder cable.
From what I've seen, in places Vodafone are responsible for the cornerstone rollout, Vodafone have a habit of using Huawei 3G RRUs. Where O2 are responsible for the rollout, they tend to use Ericsson 4G RRUs, I'm not sure about NSN equipment though.
To be honest it might not even make that much difference, but it just seems to me like O2 are putting more effort into their rollout what with 4G 1800 and 4G RRUs, where Vodafone are cheaping out with lacklustre 4G 2600 rollout outside London, and 3G RRUs from what I've seen.”
Oops sorry, I was a victim of autocorrect there Dench.. No wait Denco..
Originally Posted by Ashley_Bradbury:
“yeah, I foolishly took out a contract with voda 4 months ago. I thought they would be better than three for when im in manchester. Every time I go though the congestion on 4G is shocking at three worked far better. Just trying to send a video on whatsapp times out half the time.”
“yeah, I foolishly took out a contract with voda 4 months ago. I thought they would be better than three for when im in manchester. Every time I go though the congestion on 4G is shocking at three worked far better. Just trying to send a video on whatsapp times out half the time.”
As it stands at the moment, it's cornerstone all the way for me, not because of loyalty or such like little, simply the other half don't perform in the areas I spend most of my time, like at home or at work or along my commute, I tried my O2 sim out the other day, coverage is almost identical to Vodafone now, better service on 2g then Vodafone due to some better mast placements that have not been cornerstoned yet, plus if they roll out 1800mhz speeds might actually be better too, I just might have to stick with Vodafone for the overseas stuff which is good. IFf EE ever get 800mhz up and running I will test them again as it's contract renewal time again in September, as long as I see cornerstone continuing to improve I'm happy to stick with them, but if they fail to add data to rural areas or congestion begins to bit so 4g speeds fall to single figures as the norm, I'll be elsewhere come the new year.
There is largely nothing wrong with having 3G on RRU and 4G on base fed. To compensate for having the kit at the bottom of the mast, much thicker feeders are used. I'm told RRUs are sometimes used when there is inadequate space to fit a new set of feeders for new LTE frequencies.
I have seen 4G RRUs in installations completed on the Vodafone side.
I have seen 4G RRUs in installations completed on the Vodafone side.
Originally Posted by Denco1:
“It does seem to me like the O2 side of CTIL is more advanced than the Vodafone side. O2 are deploying 4G RRUs where Vodafone have chosen to deploy 3G RRUs. O2 seem to be widely deploying 1800 4G, where as Vodafone have deployed 2600 4G in London, and a few areas of Manchester and Birmingham.”
“It does seem to me like the O2 side of CTIL is more advanced than the Vodafone side. O2 are deploying 4G RRUs where Vodafone have chosen to deploy 3G RRUs. O2 seem to be widely deploying 1800 4G, where as Vodafone have deployed 2600 4G in London, and a few areas of Manchester and Birmingham.”
So if I'm a Vodafone customer and I drive into an O2 Cornerstone area, am I able to use 1800 4G or can I only use 800 4G?
From your post I wasn't sure whether Vodafone and O2 customers would end up on different frequencies and technologies depending on who had done the rollout in that area.
Originally Posted by David_bl1:
“So if I'm a Vodafone customer and I drive into an O2 Cornerstone area, am I able to use 1800 4G or can I only use 800 4G?
From your post I wasn't sure whether Vodafone and O2 customers would end up on different frequencies and technologies depending on who had done the rollout in that area.”
“So if I'm a Vodafone customer and I drive into an O2 Cornerstone area, am I able to use 1800 4G or can I only use 800 4G?
From your post I wasn't sure whether Vodafone and O2 customers would end up on different frequencies and technologies depending on who had done the rollout in that area.”
In each area either O2 or Vodafone build the network for each company but each brand can only use its own licenced spectrum allocations. It's one set of infrastructure broadcasting two seperately networks with their own frequencies.. (Think a dual band router at home with seperate 2.4 and 5GHz networks their own SSIDs)
Originally Posted by David_bl1:
“So if I'm a Vodafone customer and I drive into an O2 Cornerstone area, am I able to use 1800 4G or can I only use 800 4G?
From your post I wasn't sure whether Vodafone and O2 customers would end up on different frequencies and technologies depending on who had done the rollout in that area.”
“So if I'm a Vodafone customer and I drive into an O2 Cornerstone area, am I able to use 1800 4G or can I only use 800 4G?
From your post I wasn't sure whether Vodafone and O2 customers would end up on different frequencies and technologies depending on who had done the rollout in that area.”
Absolutely not. They are not sharing frequencies.
O2/VOD just upgraded my nearest mast to 4G last week.
Vodafone is giving about 20Mbps.
O2 is giving about 0.4 Mbps... every time.
Is this congestion? I've tried on two O2 phones and they're the same result. Same mast, same exact place I tested them all.
Vodafone is giving about 20Mbps.
O2 is giving about 0.4 Mbps... every time.
Is this congestion? I've tried on two O2 phones and they're the same result. Same mast, same exact place I tested them all.
Originally Posted by InfamousTeal:
“O2/VOD just upgraded my nearest mast to 4G last week.
Vodafone is giving about 20Mbps.
O2 is giving about 0.4 Mbps... every time.
Is this congestion? I've tried on two O2 phones and they're the same result. Same mast, same exact place I tested them all.”
“O2/VOD just upgraded my nearest mast to 4G last week.
Vodafone is giving about 20Mbps.
O2 is giving about 0.4 Mbps... every time.
Is this congestion? I've tried on two O2 phones and they're the same result. Same mast, same exact place I tested them all.”
Try testing at like 4 in the morning, if it's fast then, then it's probably congestion. Although it would seem weird if Vodafone have got 20Mbps O2 would have 0.4Mbps, hopefully they're just sorting something out and you'll get acceptable speeds soon.
Seen my first example of those telephone pole version of the masts today. They look quite smart, however it seemed pointless in the road I saw it on.
This on one side of the road, blends in well. The opposite side one of those silly 3 masts with the square base and pole then coming from it. Hardly blending in the area.
This on one side of the road, blends in well. The opposite side one of those silly 3 masts with the square base and pole then coming from it. Hardly blending in the area.
Originally Posted by Denco1:
“Good news
Any experts know what's happening with the 2600 TDD japaul spotted a while back?”
“Good news
Any experts know what's happening with the 2600 TDD japaul spotted a while back?”
It disappeared although you couldn't actually connect to it with a regular sim.
The 1800MHz mentioned above however is correct.
Originally Posted by clewsy:
“Seen my first example of those telephone pole version of the masts today. They look quite smart, however it seemed pointless in the road I saw it on.
This on one side of the road, blends in well. The opposite side one of those silly 3 masts with the square base and pole then coming from it. Hardly blending in the area.”
“Seen my first example of those telephone pole version of the masts today. They look quite smart, however it seemed pointless in the road I saw it on.
This on one side of the road, blends in well. The opposite side one of those silly 3 masts with the square base and pole then coming from it. Hardly blending in the area.”
If you mean the new taller 4g telephone poles then they are fairly smart, pushing the believability a bit that it's an old telegraph pole though but smarter then a standard pole. The nearest one to me is near Trentham gardens, South of Stoke on trent. What has surprised me is the amount of previous replica telegraph poles which have been approved for replacement with standard huawei street poles. One pole near keele uni which was in the style of an old 12m tree truck with some bark missing hidden amongst other trees was replaced with a almost 20m green monopole moved to the side of the road. Not sure how that got passed as it towers over everything in the area, I'm guessing they used the rotting orange Street pole and cab a mile up the road as an example of what is exceptable.
I agree with you on those three masts, they look sh*t.
In fact most mbnl roadside sites look a total mess now compared to cornerstone, ugly bulbous poles with too many cabinets randomly dotted around, where as in these parts cornerstone have 1 Huawei bts3900 cab and one other 3g cab with maybe a small electric one tucked alongside, or just 1 big vulcan cab.
Originally Posted by RileyM:
“Looks like O2 in Stretham, Ely, Cambridgeshire will finally be entering the 21st century!
Got a text earlier that 4G (and improved 3G) will be coming in the next few days! Work is scheduled for Tuesday I believe so bring it on. Going from GPRS only (last speed test 0.1Mbps down) to 3G (let alone 4G) will be great!
(Vodafone coverage check corresponds showing good coverage in the next three months)”
“Looks like O2 in Stretham, Ely, Cambridgeshire will finally be entering the 21st century!
Got a text earlier that 4G (and improved 3G) will be coming in the next few days! Work is scheduled for Tuesday I believe so bring it on. Going from GPRS only (last speed test 0.1Mbps down) to 3G (let alone 4G) will be great!
(Vodafone coverage check corresponds showing good coverage in the next three months)”
4G has just officially arrived in Stretham, as of about 14:45.
It all started when twitter user @Phonemast pointed out that 4G was incoming, based on Vodafone's projected 4G coverage in the next three months. Given CTIL involves Vodafone and O2 sharing infrastructure, one could thus say O2 would follow soon as well.
Given that work was also scheduled for Monday, it seemed pretty obvious.
Then, last week i got two separate text messages from O2, about 4G coming "in the next few days"
ollowing Monday's work on the mast, i was could now hold on getting an Edge data connection (up from GPRS), although at low signal.
Got home just after 2 today, and noticed that for the first time I had a pretty high 3G signal (could barely hold on to a "1 dot" 3G signal in before today, always reverted to GPRS). From about 2:45, this switched and I was now connected to a full 4G LTE service
Screenshots showing speed progression over the last week can be found here: http://imgur.com/a/IpPRo
Originally Posted by hammy_y:
“In my village I've got EE 4G1800 only, Vodafone 4G800 only, and O2 800+1800 4G.
EE vs O2:
EE: http://i.imgur.com/tr3tna2.png
O2: http://i.imgur.com/3C09Tv1.png
They're on the same mast btw.
So O2 is the fastest network in my village, come on EE! Lol”
“In my village I've got EE 4G1800 only, Vodafone 4G800 only, and O2 800+1800 4G.
EE vs O2:
EE: http://i.imgur.com/tr3tna2.png
O2: http://i.imgur.com/3C09Tv1.png
They're on the same mast btw.
So O2 is the fastest network in my village, come on EE! Lol
”
Originally Posted by RileyM:
“I also got a really impressive speed test on O2 4G in Shelford, Cambridgeshire
https://imgur.com/a/BW25t”
“I also got a really impressive speed test on O2 4G in Shelford, Cambridgeshire
https://imgur.com/a/BW25t”
Originally Posted by hammy_y:
“nice speeds!!
and yours are actually at an acceptable time of day unlike mine, lol, you might be able to get even faster if you do one at like 3 or 4 in the morning.”
“nice speeds!!
and yours are actually at an acceptable time of day unlike mine, lol, you might be able to get even faster if you do one at like 3 or 4 in the morning.”
Sadly, i dont live in the area. I was just communiting from work (on a bus) at the time, and decided to do a speed test.
Seems to be a steady signal from the Stretham mast now, although mum has had a couple of dropped calls in the last half hour so she has been using my BT Mobile to ring mobiles. Her S4 Mini is displaying 4G, though. Maybe some additional work is happening.
Still nothing much in the South Hams. #M1kos any news? Loving the Twitter feed but always somewhere else. At least places are going live which is good. If you can't get them to turn Beacon Hill on maybe tell them I'm going up there tonight with a pair of wire cutters, a ladder and a soldering iron to get it live by morning. Is it the green wire or the blue?
Originally Posted by mrMick:
“Seems to be a steady signal from the Stretham mast now, although mum has had a couple of dropped calls in the last half hour so she has been using my BT Mobile to ring mobiles. Her S4 Mini is displaying 4G, though. Maybe some additional work is happening.”
“Seems to be a steady signal from the Stretham mast now, although mum has had a couple of dropped calls in the last half hour so she has been using my BT Mobile to ring mobiles. Her S4 Mini is displaying 4G, though. Maybe some additional work is happening.”
Yes i do think work might still be ongoing.
Originally Posted by RileyM:
“4G has just officially arrived in Stretham, as of about 14:45.
It all started when twitter user @Phonemast pointed out that 4G was incoming, based on Vodafone's projected 4G coverage in the next three months. Given CTIL involves Vodafone and O2 sharing infrastructure, one could thus say O2 would follow soon as well.
Given that work was also scheduled for Monday, it seemed pretty obvious.
Then, last week i got two separate text messages from O2, about 4G coming "in the next few days"
ollowing Monday's work on the mast, i was could now hold on getting an Edge data connection (up from GPRS), although at low signal.
Got home just after 2 today, and noticed that for the first time I had a pretty high 3G signal (could barely hold on to a "1 dot" 3G signal in before today, always reverted to GPRS). From about 2:45, this switched and I was now connected to a full 4G LTE service
Screenshots showing speed progression over the last week can be found here: http://imgur.com/a/IpPRo”
“4G has just officially arrived in Stretham, as of about 14:45.
It all started when twitter user @Phonemast pointed out that 4G was incoming, based on Vodafone's projected 4G coverage in the next three months. Given CTIL involves Vodafone and O2 sharing infrastructure, one could thus say O2 would follow soon as well.
Given that work was also scheduled for Monday, it seemed pretty obvious.
Then, last week i got two separate text messages from O2, about 4G coming "in the next few days"
ollowing Monday's work on the mast, i was could now hold on getting an Edge data connection (up from GPRS), although at low signal.
Got home just after 2 today, and noticed that for the first time I had a pretty high 3G signal (could barely hold on to a "1 dot" 3G signal in before today, always reverted to GPRS). From about 2:45, this switched and I was now connected to a full 4G LTE service
Screenshots showing speed progression over the last week can be found here: http://imgur.com/a/IpPRo”
67mb+ is a good speed...
You must have been the only one that sector out the mast or O2 have a bit of 1800mhz 4g on the mast too.
Great news for Stretham. Steve I keep hoping for Totnes area I go there regularly and it's so frustrating!
Originally Posted by jaffboy151:
“67mb+ is a good speed...
You must have been the only one that sector out the mast...”
“67mb+ is a good speed...
You must have been the only one that sector out the mast...”
I've just hit 60.68 Mbps Up, 13.84 Mbps down, at 22:44
http://imgur.com/cJ2SSv9
Originally Posted by jaffboy151:
“...or O2 have a bit of 1800mhz 4g on the mast too.”
“...or O2 have a bit of 1800mhz 4g on the mast too.”
Is there anyway to check this on a device (only have iPhone 6S and a couple of Windows Phones in the house though)?
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