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Vodafone and O2 4G experience thread
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frejus19
13-06-2016
Thanks. I guess I'll just have to be patient!
camer_000
13-06-2016
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know why i keep getting mobile broadcasts on Vodafone?
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resi...t=folder%2cpng

It's happening on all network types and the masts have been upgraded. It's kinda weird considering this has never happened before and only pops up at random times. In the photo i had 3 come up in 5 mins and then 2 at other points in the day. |t also happened on Thursday last week, and thought nothing of it and still feel that way, I'm just curious on what it is.
jaffboy151
15-06-2016
Normally it's a hangover from old masts back when they used to offer cheaper local calls to a specific areas or something on those lines, I doubt it would still be on new masts, it could be an old mast that your phone keeps switching between it and another, I have that here at home if I turn on cell broadcast and walk to an area where 4g vanishes, but thankfully not many of them around here now.
interactiv-uk
15-06-2016
Noticing more and more improvements with O2 lately - i got the train from Birmingham to Newcastle today which is usually a GPRS/No Service journey with Cross Country but today I started with 4G and then had full 3G the rest of the way - no GPRS and no drops at all streaming Tune In. The guy next to me was on 3 and had No Service most of the way. The new Beacon 3G900 is performing well and seems to better penetrate the trains than 2100 does.
camer_000
15-06-2016
Originally Posted by jaffboy151:
“Normally it's a hangover from old masts back when they used to offer cheaper local calls to a specific areas or something on those lines, I doubt it would still be on new masts, it could be an old mast that your phone keeps switching between it and another, I have that here at home if I turn on cell broadcast and walk to an area where 4g vanishes, but thankfully not many of them around here now.”

Oh right, i think some of them could be from a legacy mast, but a couple of them definately were from an upgraded mast near my house (though the 3G by speed certainly didn't get any upgrades). Oh well at least they're getting there slowly. My main concern with Voda/O2 is will they keep this on with new technologies or get there coverage target and stop? Hopefully not but it certainly wouldn't be a new thing for them.
jaffboy151
15-06-2016
O2's East side of the country does seem more advanced then the Vodafone west, which could just be coincidence as they got started quite early on with upgrades there but does make it look like O2 is the driving force behind more widespread upgrades then Vodafone.
A strange thing along my normal work commute, I get a better quality service now but what appears to be in less places. Faster speeds with many masts upgraded but I seem to see 4g in less places then I did with my phone sticking to 900mhz 3g much more, where it used to hold onto weak 4g. Same in the rural parts, where it used to be weak, slow but usable 3g it now sticks to the numerous 2g masts dotted about and if you force 3g/4g it's there but very weak.
I doubt they've upgraded the masts and made coverage weaker so I can only put it down to the phone using the upgraded masts and ignoring the older ones..
InfamousTeal
15-06-2016
Was in a non-upgraded 3G area last night with a friend. This 3G has been here for about 5 years or so.

She tried to load a PDF on the 3G but after 3 minutes it still was just loading.

i told her to force 2G. The PDF took 1 minute on GPRS!

O2's 3G really is pathetic where it hasn't been upgraded, it may as well not even say 3G.
Stereo Steve
16-06-2016
Originally Posted by InfamousTeal:
“Was in a non-upgraded 3G area last night with a friend. This 3G has been here for about 5 years or so.

She tried to load a PDF on the 3G but after 3 minutes it still was just loading.

i told her to force 2G. The PDF took 1 minute on GPRS!

O2's 3G really is pathetic where it hasn't been upgraded, it may as well not even say 3G.”

Same down here. It does confuse matters somewhat as around my place it looks like 3G is fairly comprehensive but you know it's the old 3G and just won't work. It seems that until the mast is 4G'd, it's a waste of time.

That said, VO2 are making some serious inroads into the south west now and it seems to get better by the week.
DevonBloke
16-06-2016
They appear to have planned 3G coverage in a few places that doesn't correlate with the planned 4G of which there is very little.
Pedro mentioned that he thought they must have major backhaul issues down here hence why some 3G going in but no planned 4G yet.
Stereo Steve
16-06-2016
Originally Posted by DevonBloke:
“They appear to have planned 3G coverage in a few places that doesn't correlate with the planned 4G of which there is very little.
Pedro mentioned that he thought they must have major backhaul issues down here hence why some 3G going in but no planned 4G yet.”

I assumed that was a map error. Oh well. More pointless 3G. They probably run it along electric fence wire with a ZX81 at each end. Explains the sudden demand for Cheetah 16k Ram Packs.
hammy_y
16-06-2016
Depends where you are, a few years back when I was on O2 before they had 4G, the 3G was good enough for YouTube videos at school, and I got 2Mb on a speedtest at home. Not sure what it's like now other than that a friend was able to load Facebook fine at school on Tesco (mast at school is still only 2G/3G).
georgi_prodanov
16-06-2016
Originally Posted by DevonBloke:
“They appear to have planned 3G coverage in a few places that doesn't correlate with the planned 4G of which there is very little.
Pedro mentioned that he thought they must have major backhaul issues down here hence why some 3G going in but no planned 4G yet.”

I have seen before that case. Any planned upgrade-2G,3G,4G(each one) means full upgrade(this is just a guess). The mast in Bunbury(O2) before going 4G live was sowing only 2G planned upgrde on Vodafone map. After the upgrade it had 2G,3G,4G with Vodafone. A lot of areas do not show the real 4G planned coverage on Vodafone map. 2 sides are getting upgraded tomorrow in Reading area but nothing shows on Voda map. Only O2 and Roadworks was info there.
mobilecentre
17-06-2016
Originally Posted by georgi_prodanov:
“I have seen before that case. Any planned upgrade-2G,3G,4G(each one) means full upgrade(this is just a guess). The mast in Bunbury(O2) before going 4G live was sowing only 2G planned upgrde on Vodafone map. After the upgrade it had 2G,3G,4G with Vodafone. A lot of areas do not show the real 4G planned coverage on Vodafone map. 2 sides are getting upgraded tomorrow in Reading area but nothing shows on Voda map. Only O2 and Roadworks was info there.”

Often of VF predicted map it will only show 4G with no 2G or 3G improvements until after the site is live.

The issue may be how the information is shared between VO2 & CTIL.
Stereo Steve
17-06-2016
Can you see planned updates on the O2 map? Can't see where that is.
mobilecentre
17-06-2016
No, but if you go to their status page http://status.o2.co.uk/ and chuck in a postcode it will tell you when work is taking place on an O2 site which most times means it will be a CTIL site. It will only do this about a week in advance

For example there is one near me that appeared on VF predicted coverage a few weeks ago that is an O2 site and on the status checker it says there is work for two days next week so the CTIL upgrade is taking place.
Stereo Steve
17-06-2016
Originally Posted by mobilecentre:
“No, but if you go to their status page http://status.o2.co.uk/ and chuck in a postcode it will tell you when work is taking place on an O2 site which most times means it will be a CTIL site. It will only do this about a week in advance

For example there is one near me that appeared on VF predicted coverage a few weeks ago that is an O2 site and on the status checker it says there is work for two days next week so the CTIL upgrade is taking place.”

Cheers.
beans0ntoast
17-06-2016
Originally Posted by georgi_prodanov:
“I have seen before that case. Any planned upgrade-2G,3G,4G(each one) means full upgrade(this is just a guess). The mast in Bunbury(O2) before going 4G live was sowing only 2G planned upgrde on Vodafone map. After the upgrade it had 2G,3G,4G with Vodafone. A lot of areas do not show the real 4G planned coverage on Vodafone map. 2 sides are getting upgraded tomorrow in Reading area but nothing shows on Voda map. Only O2 and Roadworks was info there.”

I noticed this when the Vodafone Raunds mast was getting an upgrade. Was 2G900 only (and the only operator not to have some sort of 3G in Raunds), then checked the coverage checker and there was planned 3G but no planned 4G.

Once the upgrade had taken place I checked the coverage checker, and lo and behold, the 3G and 4G appears on the map.

Surprisingly, the upgrade isn't showing on O2's coverage checker, though I'd be very surprised if O2 wasn't allowed on the newly upgraded Vodafone mast.
georgi_prodanov
17-06-2016
Originally Posted by beans0ntoast:
“I noticed this when the Vodafone Raunds mast was getting an upgrade. Was 2G900 only (and the only operator not to have some sort of 3G in Raunds), then checked the coverage checker and there was planned 3G but no planned 4G.

Once the upgrade had taken place I checked the coverage checker, and lo and behold, the 3G and 4G appears on the map.

Surprisingly, the upgrade isn't showing on O2's coverage checker, though I'd be very surprised if O2 wasn't allowed on the newly upgraded Vodafone mast.”

I do not believe that. Where is the upgrade Voda and O2 get it both. I have a sim cards on both VO2 and coverage where areas upgraded is exactly the same. Even signal strength is same.
georgi_prodanov
17-06-2016
I saw yesterday new cabinet fitted next to the O2 poll. But the poll is old and there is old 02 cabinet. Why is that? Dont they replace the old cabinets when upgrade. Also when do you think the upgrade will go live after new cabinet fitted? Do they need to replace the lamppost when upgrading?
M1kos
17-06-2016
Voda live at Chagford on Dartmoor 4G map still says coming soon and Brixham collage is live but was removed from the map in this week's update they are hopeless at consistency
d123
17-06-2016
Originally Posted by georgi_prodanov:
“I saw yesterday new cabinet fitted next to the O2 poll. But the poll is old and there is old 02 cabinet.”

Pardon the pedantry, but as it's something you've done before I'm presuming you don't realise.

Poll
1) the process of voting in an election
Or
2) checking the status (of a device), especially as part of a repeated cycle.

Pole
a long, cylindrical, often slender piece of wood, metal, etc.:
For example, a telephone pole; a fishing pole.
Skippy2005
17-06-2016
Originally Posted by d123:
“Pardon the pedantry, but as it's something you've done before I'm presuming you don't realise.

Poll
1) the process of voting in an election
Or
2) checking the status (of a device), especially as part of a repeated cycle.

Pole
a long, cylindrical, often slender piece of wood, metal, etc.:
For example, a telephone pole; a fishing pole.”

lol
interactiv-uk
17-06-2016
Originally Posted by M1kos:
“Voda live at Chagford on Dartmoor 4G map still says coming soon and Brixham collage is live but was removed from the map in this week's update they are hopeless at consistency”

O2 Live there too with 2G900/3G900/4G900 from the old Vodafone section of the mast.
georgi_prodanov
17-06-2016
Originally Posted by d123:
“Pardon the pedantry, but as it's something you've done before I'm presuming you don't realise.

Poll
1) the process of voting in an election
Or
2) checking the status (of a device), especially as part of a repeated cycle.

Pole
a long, cylindrical, often slender piece of wood, metal, etc.:
For example, a telephone pole; a fishing pole.”

mistake sorry pole. So can we get to the point now?
packages
17-06-2016
Originally Posted by interactiv-uk:
“O2 Live there too with 2G900/3G900/4G900 from the old Vodafone section of the mast.”

4G800 surely?
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