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I do not believe that. Where is the upgrade Voda and O2 get it both. I have a sim cards on both VO2 and coverage where areas upgraded is exactly the same. Even signal strength is same.
EE: 2G1800/3G2100 Three: 3G2100 O2: 2G900/3G2100 Vod: 2G900 After EE had upgraded the MBNL mast to EE 4G: EE: 2G/4G 1800; 3G 2100 Three: as previous O2: as previous Vod: as previous Then the planned 3G upgrade was showing on Vodafone's map, which is now showing as 3G/4G current coverage (though no change on O2's map, which probably hasn't been updated). Current situation for Raunds: EE: 2G1800, 3G2100, 4G1800 Three: 3G2100 Vodafone: 2G900, 3G900, 4G800 (unsure if 3G2100 has been added or not, will have to check panels) O2: 2G900, 3G2100 (from old mast), 3G900 (from Vod mast), 4G800 (from Vod mast). Unsure about 3G2100 on Vod mast. |
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#3602 |
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4G800 surely?
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#3603 |
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I'm well aware of this - when Vodafone was 2G900 only, this was before the area has been touched by CTIL. To clarify, until a few weeks ago:
EE: 2G1800/3G2100 Three: 3G2100 O2: 2G900/3G2100 Vod: 2G900 After EE had upgraded the MBNL mast to EE 4G: EE: 2G/4G 1800; 3G 2100 Three: as previous O2: as previous Vod: as previous Then the planned 3G upgrade was showing on Vodafone's map, which is now showing as 3G/4G current coverage (though no change on O2's map, which probably hasn't been updated). Current situation for Raunds: EE: 2G1800, 3G2100, 4G1800 Three: 3G2100 Vodafone: 2G900, 3G900, 4G800 (unsure if 3G2100 has been added or not, will have to check panels) O2: 2G900, 3G2100 (from old mast), 3G900 (from Vod mast), 4G800 (from Vod mast). Unsure about 3G2100 on Vod mast. |
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Vodafone 4G2100 is live in Manchester. They have picked a site which doesn't use RRUs, should be interesting to see whether 3G RRU sites get upgraded.
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My iPhone 6S Plus on iOS 9.3.2 received a Vodafone carrier update taking the version up to 24.1.
Does anyone know the changes of the new carrier version? |
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#3606 |
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EE had this carrier update a few weeks ago. Doesn't appear to have done anything that we can see
Edit: on bt mobile, this added personal hotspot. Probably didn't do anything for Vodafone |
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My iPhone 6S Plus on iOS 9.3.2 received a Vodafone carrier update taking the version up to 24.1.
Does anyone know the changes of the new carrier version? |
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I've had the 24.1 update on O2 today - it has removed the Calls & Data over 2G/3G/4G option and reverted to a singe Enable 4G toggle.
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#3609 |
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Vodafone 4G2100 is live in Manchester. They have picked a site which doesn't use RRUs, should be interesting to see whether 3G RRU sites get upgraded.
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Vodafone 4G2100 is live in Manchester. They have picked a site which doesn't use RRUs, should be interesting to see whether 3G RRU sites get upgraded.
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Thanks for the update. Is it in the centre? Went around about 3 weeks ago with a phone locked to bands 1,3,7 and only got the 2600.
Edit: Just in a short 1 mile walk I've picked up over 9 CellIDs, including two from monopoles, one just on the edge of the centre. They've obviously had a big switch on recently. |
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So why does it appear 2600 has been so difficult to roll out? Would it be new cabs and new panels again? I assume as they already have 1800/2100 live. It's just a quick card swap from 2/3G to a 4G card?
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To enable 4G2100 it would probably need a card swap from a 3G only 2100 card to a 3G/4G 2100 card. From my quick walk, some of the sites that I know have 2600 ready panels have not been upgraded to 2100 as of yet. So this may be because they are going to install 4G2600 later, or they could also be waiting for 4G2100 too.
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I think you're right. I was talking to a guy who rents a house on the same estate as the mast down my lane and he mentioned that the landowner has been asked for permission for them to dig a trench and lay fibre to the A41 - no timescale or further progress that he was aware of though. I think O2 have another mast between here and Marbury too, which might explain the planned changes over that way too. It's great to see them making some progress, even if it is a fairly unimpressive change at this stage!
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O2 is only transmitting from the ex-Vodafone site (71346) on Meadow Lane and is now 2G900/3G900/3G2100/4G800/4G1800 - the old O2 mast (37283) behind Brick Kiln Road is down - no planned works that I can see, just looks to be in the process of decomm.
Just for comparison's sake, would you happen to know what Vodafone are broadcasting on that site as well? Are Vodafone doing U21 as well as U09, and have Vodafone got L18 as well as L08? Or have Vodafone gone L08 only, or even L08 + L21 (though the latter is unlikely). |
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Thanks for the info. It's good to know that O2 are keeping their 3G2100, whilst also doing 4G1800 to help capacity (why isn't Vodafone doing this, or rolling out 2600 on most masts, I do not know). Seems to make sense to decom the old O2 mast, as that was too far out of town for 3G2100 to actually do anything.
Just for comparison's sake, would you happen to know what Vodafone are broadcasting on that site as well? Are Vodafone doing U21 as well as U09, and have Vodafone got L18 as well as L08? Or have Vodafone gone L08 only, or even L08 + L21 (though the latter is unlikely). |
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Thanks for the info. It's good to know that O2 are keeping their 3G2100, whilst also doing 4G1800 to help capacity (why isn't Vodafone doing this, or rolling out 2600 on most masts, I do not know). Seems to make sense to decom the old O2 mast, as that was too far out of town for 3G2100 to actually do anything.
Just for comparison's sake, would you happen to know what Vodafone are broadcasting on that site as well? Are Vodafone doing U21 as well as U09, and have Vodafone got L18 as well as L08? Or have Vodafone gone L08 only, or even L08 + L21 (though the latter is unlikely). |
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Same as you, I checked about 2 weeks ago and no sign of it. The first mast I've picked up is on the TA centre in Old Trafford. I'm picking up quite a few more Cell IDs which could well be from masts located closer to the centre, so I'll have a detailed search within the next couple of days.
Edit: Just in a short 1 mile walk I've picked up over 9 CellIDs, including two from monopoles, one just on the edge of the centre. They've obviously had a big switch on recently. |
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Thanks for the info, I'm clearly going to have to go around with a phone at some point again soon!
I'm beginning to wonder whether the RRUs are multimode, because a site I've visited has had no change of RRUs, but is now broadcasting L21. If all the Huawei RRUs are infact multimode, maybe this rollout is as simple as when Three enabled their additional 2x5MHz of 1800MHz and card/RRU swaps aren't necessary. Begs the question of why L21 is only just being enabled though, and why it couldn't be when 2100 was upgraded? That could all just be nonsense of course, we could either do with a Vodafone insider on this forum, or a very good zoom lens to see which model the RRU is. |
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I can confirm Linley House of Portland Street is broadcasting L21. I'm getting L21 in Chorlton, Old Trafford and Hulme, not had chance to go further afield yet.
I'm beginning to wonder whether the RRUs are multimode, because a site I've visited has had no change of RRUs, but is now broadcasting L21. If all the Huawei RRUs are infact multimode, maybe this rollout is as simple as when Three enabled their additional 2x5MHz of 1800MHz and card/RRU swaps aren't necessary. Begs the question of why L21 is only just being enabled though, and why it couldn't be when 2100 was upgraded? That could all just be nonsense of course, we could either do with a Vodafone insider on this forum, or a very good zoom lens to see which model the RRU is. Thanks |
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Don't know i'm afraid - can't see that bit!
I would be very surprised, though, if Vodafone didn't roll out U21 at that site, seeing as though O2 already has it. I'd also be surprised if there wasn't 1800, seeing as though O2 also have 2100, though I am less certain on whether it would be L1800, or the inferior G1800. (I have noticed, from other posts here, and Pedro's website, that Vodafone have rolled out G1800 in locations where O2 have rolled out L1800.) Though, if Vodafone and O2 already have G09 on a mast, why are they also (sometimes) putting G18 on the same mast? I wouldn't have said capacity was the reasoning, as GSM in general has very little in the way of data capacity (and U09/U21 can be used for phone calls instead of G18), and coverage wouldn't be a reason either, as G18 has less coverage than G09. I'd have thought that 4G coverage and capacity would be more important, with the use of L08 and L18. But then, I could be wrong... |
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I'm assuming L2100 and L800 are being CA'd, what speeds are you getting if they are(nt).
Thanks I'm not sure of the priority levels either as I don't have access to an iPhone. |
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I can confirm Linley House of Portland Street is broadcasting L21. I'm getting L21 in Chorlton, Old Trafford and Hulme, not had chance to go further afield yet.
I'm beginning to wonder whether the RRUs are multimode, because a site I've visited has had no change of RRUs, but is now broadcasting L21. If all the Huawei RRUs are infact multimode, maybe this rollout is as simple as when Three enabled their additional 2x5MHz of 1800MHz and card/RRU swaps aren't necessary. Begs the question of why L21 is only just being enabled though, and why it couldn't be when 2100 was upgraded? That could all just be nonsense of course, we could either do with a Vodafone insider on this forum, or a very good zoom lens to see which model the RRU is. |
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I don't believe the LG G4 is capable of aggregating B1+B20, so I'm unable to test that. I'm consistently getting between 10-20mbps download on L21 alone.
I'm not sure of the priority levels either as I don't have access to an iPhone. Thanks |
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That's quite good actually I would safely say not many sites have L2100 so as it becomes more dense speeds will increase significantly. What's the max speed on L2100 about 40? Under ideal conditions?
Thanks Maximum speed is 37.5mbps downlink and 12.5mbps uplink, in ideal conditions. |
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