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Vodafone and O2 4G experience thread
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mrgs12
20-07-2016
Originally Posted by clewsy:
“It seems to have got worse as such, a sin sure in the places I'm now seeing it, previously it used to just switch to 4g near enough straight away.

Going the other way around it does also now try and cling on to 3g/4g signal for as long as possible before switching over to 2g.”

Do cornerstone when they upgrade a mast run 2G on low power? Our area is terrible since upgrade only seems like one side of mast is working, when go behind it on A road you lose it, if that's progress then I'll have to try O2 hopefully they will add their equipment soon like the planning application said " Vodafone and Telefonica.
lightspeed2398
20-07-2016
Originally Posted by mrgs12:
“Do cornerstone when they upgrade a mast run 2G on low power? Our area is terrible since upgrade only seems like one side of mast is working, when go behind it on A road you lose it, if that's progress then I'll have to try O2 hopefully they will add their equipment soon like the planning application said " Vodafone and Telefonica.”

They run 2G as high as they can. No constraints on its power relative to other technologies.
mrgs12
21-07-2016
Originally Posted by lightspeed2398:
“They run 2G as high as they can. No constraints on its power relative to other technologies.”

Well must be faulty because when it was a 2G only it was great coverage now it's very poor you don't pick it up until a few meters away approaching from rear along the road even then it's weak go past it then signal starts to increase but doesn't last far what a muck up !
Broken Hope
21-07-2016
Someone on Reddit said in the iOS 10 beta on O2 if you change 4G to Voice and Data you get a pop up message directing to a website, anyone able to show us the message?
lightspeed2398
21-07-2016
Originally Posted by mrgs12:
“Well must be faulty because when it was a 2G only it was great coverage now it's very poor you don't pick it up until a few meters away approaching from rear along the road even then it's weak go past it then signal starts to increase but doesn't last far what a muck up !”

At a guess they're doing some work in the area (maybe bringing masts from the other operator into CTIL/Beacon) and they want to wait until that's done before optimising the 2G for interference and handover and they're keeping it at that power until it's finished. Think there's some frequency restructuring going on on 2G at the moment so might be rejigging all of that at the same time (although the kind of planning should be done centrally on one frequency plan so maybe not).

On o2 and Vodafone's website is it listed as faulty and/or are masts in the area including that one listed as going to be worked on in the next few days/weeks
LegendaryAced
21-07-2016
Originally Posted by Broken Hope:
“Someone on Reddit said in the iOS 10 beta on O2 if you change 4G to Voice and Data you get a pop up message directing to a website, anyone able to show us the message?”

The carrier settings for O2 have enabled VoLTE. This aligns well with Apple's carrier support page (quoted a few pages back). I guess O2 is public testing VoLTE.
packages
21-07-2016
Originally Posted by LegendaryAced:
“The carrier settings for O2 have enabled VoLTE. This aligns well with Apple's carrier support page (quoted a few pages back). I guess O2 is public testing VoLTE.”

Seems like VoLTE may come his year for general release then. I also expect Wifi Calling to launch at the same time
lightspeed2398
21-07-2016
Originally Posted by packages:
“Seems like VoLTE may come his year for general release then. I also expect Wifi Calling to launch at the same time”

For VoLTE to work effectively you need to have large contiguous stretches of 4G coverage. EE always said they'd start doing it around 90% population coverage and when they launched it fully it was at about 95%. I think most people would agree o2 and Vodafone are getting to the stage where they are at that. Vodafone for example are field testing VoLTE and only have it enabled where the 4G network is dense and rolled out in long stretches.

I would also expect them to implement native wifi calling on compatible devices, if for no other reason than taking some traffic off the network.
georgi_prodanov
21-07-2016
Originally Posted by LegendaryAced:
“The carrier settings for O2 have enabled VoLTE. This aligns well with Apple's carrier support page (quoted a few pages back). I guess O2 is public testing VoLTE.”

What about Vodafone carrier settings. Is the VoLTE enabled?
lightspeed2398
21-07-2016
Originally Posted by georgi_prodanov:
“What about Vodafone carrier settings. Is the VoLTE enabled?”

IMS and VoLTE are all setup in there but they haven't set the flag to show the VoLTE menu, not sure if it will work without that. Voda are testing VoLTE live on the network in certain locations for people who have it enabled on their account.
rewind
22-07-2016
Vodafone now has 4G roaming in 101 countries: http://www.mobilenewscwp.co.uk/2016/...-destinations/
Ajanni
22-07-2016
Originally Posted by georgi_prodanov:
“What about Vodafone carrier settings. Is the VoLTE enabled?”

I recently updated my Sony Xperia m4 aqua to marshmallow 6.01 and the volte provisioned flag setting appeared and by default it is set to on, but there is no volte settings in the mobile settings menu.
Gigabit
22-07-2016
Looks like my nearest O2 mast will soon be having the CTIL treatment and adding 4G for Vodafone. At the moment it is O2 2G/3G only with 3G only being 2100MHz.

Now:

http://i.imgur.com/ZVRxZZj.png

Within three months:

http://i.imgur.com/fEhN8TY.png

Quite an improvement.
LegendaryAced
22-07-2016
Originally Posted by georgi_prodanov:
“What about Vodafone carrier settings. Is the VoLTE enabled?”

It is not clear whether they are included with iPhone or not.

Since a few Vodafone carrier versions back they changed the menu Mobile Data to show 2G/3G/4G and on top the heading 'Voice & Data' implying that VoLTE is there by default.

On EE/Three (and presumably O2, somebody has to confirm) you get the options to enable 4G for data, 4G for voice and data or disable 4G. You can't lock the phone in 2G. So slightly different menu, but clear that VoLTE is there.
mrgs12
22-07-2016
Originally Posted by lightspeed2398:
“At a guess they're doing some work in the area (maybe bringing masts from the other operator into CTIL/Beacon) and they want to wait until that's done before optimising the 2G for interference and handover and they're keeping it at that power until it's finished. Think there's some frequency restructuring going on on 2G at the moment so might be rejigging all of that at the same time (although the kind of planning should be done centrally on one frequency plan so maybe not).

On o2 and Vodafone's website is it listed as faulty and/or are masts in the area including that one listed as going to be worked on in the next few days/weeks”

Vodafone site just said we worked on the mast for a dayto improve calls text and data. Nothing for O2 they don't have coverage here and haven't added their services, other masts are too far away to factor into it, lots of deep valley's.
beans0ntoast
22-07-2016
Originally Posted by Gigabit:
“Looks like my nearest O2 mast will soon be having the CTIL treatment and adding 4G for Vodafone. At the moment it is O2 2G/3G only with 3G only being 2100MHz.

Now:

http://i.imgur.com/ZVRxZZj.png

Within three months:

http://i.imgur.com/fEhN8TY.png

Quite an improvement.”

Awesome, that'll give you better indoor (and outdoor) coverage in the area.
Should also get 3G900 - I know that my local mast was G09/U21 before the upgrade, and now had UG09/U21/L08 (don't know about L18).
Another local area, that had O2 G09/U21, and VF G09, got the CTIL treatment with O2 UG09/U21/L08/L18 and VF UG09/U21/L08. (Don't know about L18.)

Now when on when oh when will the Thrapston mast get CTIL'ed, as that is a large coverage hole (certainly for UMTS and LTE) for both operators.
edit: Still G09/18 only for O2 and G09 only for VF, with VF being quite weak in some areas due to not having a mast in Thrapston.
CheshireBumpkin
22-07-2016
Originally Posted by Gigabit:
“Looks like my nearest O2 mast will soon be having the CTIL treatment and adding 4G for Vodafone. At the moment it is O2 2G/3G only with 3G only being 2100MHz.

Now:

http://i.imgur.com/ZVRxZZj.png

Within three months:

http://i.imgur.com/fEhN8TY.png

Quite an improvement.”

That's good news. I think they've binned the idea of fibre-ing my local mast, as the previously listed roadworks.org road closure has disappeared and the future coverage map has reverted back to nothing.

Ah well, no great loss to me (other than backup) and I was always surprised they were planning it!
mrgs12
22-07-2016
Originally Posted by beans0ntoast:
“Awesome, that'll give you better indoor (and outdoor) coverage in the area.
Should also get 3G900 - I know that my local mast was G09/U21 before the upgrade, and now had UG09/U21/L08 (don't know about L18).
Another local area, that had O2 G09/U21, and VF G09, got the CTIL treatment with O2 UG09/U21/L08/L18 and VF UG09/U21/L08. (Don't know about L18.)

Now when on when oh when will the Thrapston mast get CTIL'ed, as that is a large coverage hole (certainly for UMTS and LTE) for both operators.
edit: Still G09/18 only for O2 and G09 only for VF, with VF being quite weak in some areas due to not having a mast in Thrapston.”

Is 3G still being rolled out? The mast upgrade close to e says no 3G is planned. 4G and 2G planned for future. There is no 3G at all in the area.
beans0ntoast
22-07-2016
Originally Posted by mrgs12:
“Is 3G still being rolled out? The mast upgrade close to e says no 3G is planned. 4G and 2G planned for future. There is no 3G at all in the area.”

I know that 3G was added to my nearest masts when they were upgraded... Also, the planned coverage for Raunds (Vodafone) said 3G only, no 4G... yet when the upgrades were carried out, 3G and 4G appeared!

I can't guarantee anything but it would be likely that all technologies will be put on your mast when upgraded. 3G will probably be switched off first (before 2G) but that won't be for a while yet, so they'll likely get 3G and 4G both up to good coverage.
mrgs12
22-07-2016
Originally Posted by beans0ntoast:
“I know that 3G was added to my nearest masts when they were upgraded... Also, the planned coverage for Raunds (Vodafone) said 3G only, no 4G... yet when the upgrades were carried out, 3G and 4G appeared!

I can't guarantee anything but it would be likely that all technologies will be put on your mast when upgraded. 3G will probably be switched off first (before 2G) but that won't be for a while yet, so they'll likely get 3G and 4G both up to good coverage.”

Sorry I wasn't clear enough mast had new antenna array fitted it was only ever 2G single operator, planning approved a 21 metre height increase microwave dishes, in applications it to provide 3/4G and Telefonica but O2 never bothered to add, mast was never increased or dishes added, they cut costs and we suffer by the signal problems now, wish it had stayed 2G now.
jaffboy151
22-07-2016
Originally Posted by CheshireBumpkin:
“That's good news. I think they've binned the idea of fibre-ing my local mast, as the previously listed roadworks.org road closure has disappeared and the future coverage map has reverted back to nothing.

Ah well, no great loss to me (other than backup) and I was always surprised they were planning it! ”

I noticed that has vanished tonight when looking around on roadworks.org, all the rural upgrades across 2g,3g or 4g have now vanished on Vodafone's coverage checker, only towns and city upgrades seem to be taking place...
Sound familiar?
Looks like Vodafone might be falling into old habits, sticking to towns and city's and leaving out manyi rural & semi rural areas, must think nobody there needs mobile data...
Ohh but they are doing masts along motorway links, I guess because they think everyone from towns and cities only commutes between said towns and cities via the motorway.
Skippy2005
22-07-2016
Originally Posted by jaffboy151:
“I noticed that has vanished tonight when looking around on roadworks.org, all the rural upgrades across 2g,3g or 4g have now vanished on Vodafone's coverage checker, only towns and city upgrades seem to be taking place...
Sound familiar?
Looks like Vodafone might be falling into old habits, sticking to towns and city's and leaving out manyi rural & semi rural areas, must think nobody there needs mobile data...
Ohh but they are doing masts along motorway links, I guess because they think everyone from towns and cities only commutes between said towns and cities via the motorway. ”

Well if they do they arent going to hit 98% indoor and outdoor coverage.
Pedro_C
23-07-2016
The planned coverage didn't show the 3G upgrade to a known mast. Upgrade happened though. The 3G 900 equipment should be able to be switched to carry 4G 900 in future so well worth deploying
jchamier
23-07-2016
Originally Posted by Pedro_C:
“The planned coverage didn't show the 3G upgrade to a known mast. Upgrade happened though. The 3G 900 equipment should be able to be switched to carry 4G 900 in future so well worth deploying”

Is lte 900 yet a defined band? Without that no devices will plam to support it.
georgi_prodanov
23-07-2016
Originally Posted by Skippy2005:
“Well if they do they arent going to hit 98% indoor and outdoor coverage.”

I do not see how they gonna manage to do that. They have year an a half to go and a lot of sides are still 2G untouched
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