Are you under Vodafone or o2's upgrade areas

That sounds like the west

Have recently switched to Vodafone, as they had a good 10GB SIM-only deal for £17 a month. Generally, everything has been pretty good, and the call quality is better than it was with Tesco Mobile. However, I've been noticing slow LTE speeds during the day at my work (Edinburgh's west end) - around 2Mbps download... I know it's festival time but it still seems slow. Other places seem to be quick enough, so it's a shame the speed's a bit low in that area.

Charlton is South East London Vodafone are in charge here.
Edinburgh is O2 so might be a while before 2600 reaches.. Already live in Glasgow

Typical, Glasgow getting it before us. Hope they do roll it out soon!

Apart from at work where our office acts like a massive faraday cage I have been quietly impressed so far, speeds are generally very good and at home coming from EE it's like night and day.

Vodafone have definitely come on a long way since I was with them last and hopefully the pace of their 4g rollout won't slow down anytime soon.

http://imgur.com/a/HEASU
Shows the good performance Vodafone can provide when under the right reception conditions. 69Mbps out of a theoretical 75Mbps is pretty darn good, that was provided from an AAU.

If anyone is wondering the app is called Network Signal Guru.

Also a question for the network experts, is LTE transmission mode 4 used anywhere in the UK?
I don't think Huawei or Samsung markets are using it, but maybe Ericsson and NSN markets are?

Vodafone 4G 2100MHz CA'd yields some very nice results. Sadly my LG G4 doesn't support the CA modes, but it seems the LG G5 does.

LG G5 has a Cat 9 Radio, i wonder if it can do all three bands at once 40mhz around 250mbps wowsers Ive seen 10mhz 2100 on many masts shame the G4 cant ca 2100

Voda now showing Beacon hill Torbay as 3G coming soon and Dartmouth! however the other two sites previously showing as coming soon Bugford and Loddiswell have dissapeared so i wont hold my breath although i have spoke to CTIL who confirmed the sdouth hams is now being worked up for Autumn/winter installs and upgrades

Sadly I'm not sure the UK version is Cat 9 I think we've got the Cat 6 version. I know that the S7/S7E/Note 7 sold here are all Cat 9, so 800+1800+2600 and 800+2100+2600 should be possible on those. There's 6/7 3CA sites in Manchester.

Other places L21 have been reported include; Birmingham, Liverpool, Bristol, Glasgow.
Other likely candidates include Newbury, Ascot. Guildford, Swindon, Southampton,Cheltenham as these are all reported L26 locations.

I've never come across L26 in Guildford. No L21 there yet either. A large South East portion of the M25 has L21 on most (all) sites.

Is that just 3G900 pending better backhaul or do you reckon they will do 4G too? Doesn't really matter to me now as I've just signed up to EE but it would be good to have some options next time around. Will be interesting to see where all the networks are 2 years from now.

Big areas come and go form the predicted coverage map all the time around these parts, some have been predicted on the 2g map, the 3g map and the 4g map at different times, but nothing seems to actually ben happening sadly, in fact I don't think a single mast has been upgraded outside of a large town or motorway link in over 6 or 8 months
also when you look in many large towns at some of the roof top mast infrastructure its clear many have not been touched as its easy to spot the old V/O2 panels, There dragging there feet for some reason in quite a few areas I've been,not just where I live and work too. at this rate they will be nowhere near by the end of 2017 unless the use some very creative software on the coverage maps..

They will do 4G too. The Voda coverage map often shows planned coverage increases for either 4G or 3G only, but post-upgrade both technologies are represented on the map.

M25 which area? Junctions do you mean around Heathrow and the M3 as my side of town the L21 stops at Eltham atm

I wonder how many customers vo2 have lost in the non upgraded areas where they have given up waiting.. Its a shame but I guess it speeds up the network for the patient ones lol including me

VF seem to be unhappy with Openreach as references have been made that they have caused some of the rollout delay, in my area the rollout has followed Openreach work around. Planning is also a nightmare as an existing site that was denied permission for an antenna swap and an extra dish has been at appeal for the best part of a year delaying the rollout more.

Of course if they had done 3G properly things would be slightly better but they have finally switched on the largest town near me (Evesham) a week ago so now the town centre and one of the masts on the NW outskirts are done only the other three surrounding it to do!

Me for 1. I can't see anything like a decent service for the South Hams in the next 6 months so decided to go for EE. I hope they get it done soon.

As they say on Dragon's Den, I'm out.

All I want is choice. It's ridiculous that so many people have only 1 network to choose from in their area, whichever one it may be.

Meant South West M25. Heathrow to Wisley pretty much.

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but do Vodafone eventually plan to have 4G 800 coming out of every mast? For instance those many times that you still end up on EDGE or GPRS, will they eventually be banished?

4G 800 is the primary layer for both Voda and O2, so yes every site will eventually have it. Some higher capacity sites may also get 4G 2100 (O2) and 4G 2600 (Voda).

The typical receiver threshold for GSM/GPRS/EDGE is -105 dBm, whereas UMTS is -110 dBm and LTE -125 (lower numbers are better). This means that all things being equal (antenna site, radiated power, frequency, etc) LTE will be preferred over GPRS/EDGE coming from the same site.

Thanks for this - great detail! If they actually ever do do as I describe, that should be a pretty good network. I've been pretty impressed with Voda's "Data Comeback", but after years with Three its pretty irritating seeing E or GPRS on the iPhone...

Are the masts on low power for 4/3G the only mast serving my area was upgraded and only shows ok outdoors, patchy indoors not suitable for mobile broadband, if that's it then they fail their indoor obligation here.

Yes it will but they have to actually do it. Which they have not yet. I've gone from dual SIM VOD / 3 which worked OK but the phone was like carrying around a.....brick I suppose. Its seemed there were few other options. I've gone to an SE on EE and while the reception may be not as good as VOD here at least when I get a signal it's not 2G from the 1980's. If VO2 put 4G on 'my' mast it would be awesome. But when is that? 2025? It will be old by then you Vodafone *****. EE and 3 already have but only 1800 so it's not awesome at all. It seems neither EE or 3 are putting 800 on it either. They should re-think that.

So in 2016 we have to still choose to still have a dual sim phone which is the size of a house brick in order to get voice and data at the same time or we have to choose one network where one thing works but the other doesn't.

Needs fixing pretty soon.