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My guess is (and it's purely a guess) that cornerstone are solely reliant on BT fibre networks in this part of the country, which is being rolled out now, albeit very slowly, one roadside O2 2g mast has had a huawei 4g cabinet installed for around 18 months now but still no upgrade, it's a massive hole in Vodafone overall coverage in the area and a blackhole for data all round so must be waiting for backhaul surely. Alot of Vodafone & O2 masts are not in easy accessible locations unlike mbnl which has a wider range of masts to choose from and have already but the fibre legwork in over many years and have seemingly chose the best ones to beef up and make 4g. Still quite a few 3g/2g mbnl/EE masts around here.
The other thing I was thinking that might cause delays is planned work permits and landlord permission.. On some joint sites EE & three were quick off the mark and upgraded them. Surely in some cases if cornerstone rock up 6-12 months later and want the same thing done again they might hit some resistance getting permission to dig up and/or disrupt a given area again in such a short time. I notice that where I am, EE are finally upgrading an old 2g mast near to me. It's taken a while but seems that since they became owned by BT it didn't take long to ha e open reach installing fibre and then the planning app went in. I guess being owner by BT does help. |
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Guys does anyone know if there will be any mast installed in Nettlebed? May be someone has some info which would be very helpful as I work there now and VO2 signal very poor. Only EE/Three have good signal. I will be working for the next year and can not move to other network as my contract with Voda ends next year july. Very sad
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Guys does anyone know if there will be any mast installed in Nettlebed? May be someone has some info which would be very helpful as I work there now and VO2 signal very poor. Only EE/Three have good signal. I will be working for the next year and can not move to other network as my contract with Voda ends next year july. Very sad
I have no idea whether you'll be working in an office, but if you are, would they let you use a SureSignal box? http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/mobi...SKU75375-white |
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I had a look at the Vodafone planned coverage on their website. It says, 'Sorry - there are no upgrades in the next 3 months to improve the coverage here'.
I have no idea whether you'll be working in an office, but if you are, would they let you use a SureSignal box? http://shop.vodafone.co.uk/shop/mobi...SKU75375-white |
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Yes it could be that, however arnt VF putting in their own fibre to masts? Maybe it's them who are the reason for these slow rural upgrades?
I notice that where I am, EE are finally upgrading an old 2g mast near to me. It's taken a while but seems that since they became owned by BT it didn't take long to ha e open reach installing fibre and then the planning app went in. I guess being owner by BT does help. |
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Thought this thread had died then trying to look for it after being away for a while!
Got a comparison GIF of Voda 4G vs Voda 4G planned for any interested parties. Is 32mb though so wouldn't use your mobile data for it. http://imgur.com/a/JpuXN A couple of point sprang to mind when I looked at it though: Firstly I can see why I'm often moaning about the lack of upgrades more then most, as behind Scotland, Shropshire, South Cheshire and mid Wales seem the furthest behind on the 4g map, also surprised at the amount of coverage in Northern Ireland. Driving around though I'd say the network is as messed up as it's ever going to be, with a split of upgraded and none cornerstone upgraded masts resulting in massive call drop rates, surely it can only get better from now on. |
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Thanks for the map, really useful as Vodafone still don't let you zoom out to see UK coverage!
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Thanks for the map, really useful as Vodafone still don't let you zoom out to see UK coverage!
A couple of point sprang to mind when I looked at it though: Firstly I can see why I'm often moaning about the lack of upgrades more then most, as behind Scotland, Shropshire, South Cheshire and mid Wales seem the furthest behind on the 4g map, also surprised at the amount of coverage in Northern Ireland. Driving around though I'd say the network is as messed up as it's ever going to be, with a split of upgraded and none cornerstone upgraded masts resulting in massive call drop rates, surely it can only get better from now on. |
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"Vodafone told TechWeekEurope it has already surpassed the 90 percent target and claimed its 4G service reached 95 percent of the UK population."
Read more at http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/netw...BcPeqyQwrB7.99 So Vodafone are only 2% behind EE then when it comes to 4g coverage. |
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"Vodafone told TechWeekEurope it has already surpassed the 90 percent target and claimed its 4G service reached 95 percent of the UK population."
Read more at http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/netw...BcPeqyQwrB7.99 So Vodafone are only 2% behind EE then when it comes to 4g coverage. EE is now up to 98%population and 70%geographical. |
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Looks like someone's made a mistake, they've surpassed 90% population coverage, but definitely not the end of 2017 90%geographical coverage.
EE is now up to 98%population and 70%geographical. |
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I'm pretty sure the 90% cover only has to be 2g which I think Vodafone do provide
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According to statistics compiled by Ofcom in December 2014, Vodafone covered 82% of the UK land mass, while O2 and EE managed 78% coverage.
Unless Vodafone have been expanding 2G much more rapidly than 4G, it seems quite a feet to achieve.
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Vodafone results announcement in July said "4G coverage at 95% on the Ofcom definition", so I believe the figure to be correct. The trouble is, as I understand it the Ofcom definition is pretty meaningless, as the signal would be unusable at the figure they've chosen. I'm sure Vodafone used to also give their own figure (which was more realistic, but obviously lower), but I can't seem to find that in the latest results
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Vodafone results announcement in July said "4G coverage at 95% on the Ofcom definition", so I believe the figure to be correct. The trouble is, as I understand it the Ofcom definition is pretty meaningless, as the signal would be unusable at the figure they've chosen. I'm sure Vodafone used to also give their own figure (which was more realistic, but obviously lower), but I can't seem to find that in the latest results
To me the wording sounded like someone was claiming Vodafone had beaten the 90% target and is now at 95%, not realising that the 90% was referring to landmass and not population. Maybe Vodafone have indeed managed it, but it seems odd that they could have managed it, with 4G only being 95%population. You may also have expected Vodafone to shout about it as a defence to the idea of national roaming. |
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To me the wording sounded like someone was claiming Vodafone had beaten the 90% target and is now at 95%, not realising that the 90% was referring to landmass and not population.
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I wonder if o2 are in the 90% range for its 4g coverage too, and where are 3 up to?
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I wonder if o2 are in the 90% range for its 4g coverage too, and where are 3 up to?
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With vodafone world traveller, do you get charged twice if you change countries on the same day, like if you were in the USA then flew to Canada? (As I have been charged twice it seems)
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I've been travelling to and from London a fair bit recently so decided to test each MNO on G-Net. This only takes coverage into account so full bars legacy 3G at 69Kbps is seen to be the same as 3G at 30Mbps but it's still a nice comparison.
Maps of the logs can be found here with colours as follows: Green= 4G stronger than -115db Orange= 3G stronger than -100db Red= 2G, 3G weaker than -100db, or 4G weaker than -115db Black= No Service Vodafone: No service: 2.8% 2G: 23.5% 3G: 4.2% 4G: 69.5% 3G and 4G: 73.7% O2: No service: 2.3% 2G: 29.7% 3G: 4.1% 4G: 63.8% 3G and 4G: 67.9% EE: Points recorded on no service: 1.8% 2G (red): 18.1% 3G (orange): 7.9% 4G (green): 72.2% 3G and 4G combined (likely 'usable' for data): 80.1% Three: No service: 3.8% 2G: 16.4% 3G: 48.9% 4G: 31.0% 3G and 4G: 79.9% If anyone wants a render just of a specific area, tell me and I'll create one. |
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I've been travelling to and from London a fair bit recently so decided to test each MNO on G-Net. This only takes coverage into account so full bars legacy 3G at 69Kbps is seen to be the same as 3G at 30Mbps but it's still a nice comparison.
Maps of the logs can be found here with colours as follows: Green= 4G stronger than -115db Orange= 3G stronger than -100db Red= 2G, 3G weaker than -100db, or 4G weaker than -115db Black= No Service Vodafone: No service: 2.8% 2G: 23.5% 3G: 4.2% 4G: 69.5% 3G and 4G: 73.7% O2: No service: 2.3% 2G: 29.7% 3G: 4.1% 4G: 63.8% 3G and 4G: 67.9% EE: Points recorded on no service: 1.8% 2G (red): 18.1% 3G (orange): 7.9% 4G (green): 72.2% 3G and 4G combined (likely 'usable' for data): 80.1% Three: No service: 3.8% 2G: 16.4% 3G: 48.9% 4G: 31.0% 3G and 4G: 79.9% If anyone wants a render just of a specific area, tell me and I'll create one. |
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As soon as EE properly launch 800MHz around here I'm 95% sure I'm moving away from Vodafone and I'm going to try and convince my parents to move away from O2 (via Tesco Mobile).
O2/VF coverage has degraded to the point where I now have to use Wi-Fi Calling and my parents having iPhone 5ss, struggle. O2 and Vodafone used to be really solid around here but as soon as weak 4G became available the formerly strong 2G network is now incredibly weak too. I'm not sure how the two are related but that's what has happened. |
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As soon as EE properly launch 800MHz around here I'm 95% sure I'm moving away from Vodafone and I'm going to try and convince my parents to move away from O2 (via Tesco Mobile).
O2/VF coverage has degraded to the point where I now have to use Wi-Fi Calling and my parents having iPhone 5ss, struggle. O2 and Vodafone used to be really solid around here but as soon as weak 4G became available the formerly strong 2G network is now incredibly weak too. I'm not sure how the two are related but that's what has happened. |
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As soon as EE properly launch 800MHz around here I'm 95% sure I'm moving away from Vodafone and I'm going to try and convince my parents to move away from O2 (via Tesco Mobile).
O2/VF coverage has degraded to the point where I now have to use Wi-Fi Calling and my parents having iPhone 5ss, struggle. O2 and Vodafone used to be really solid around here but as soon as weak 4G became available the formerly strong 2G network is now incredibly weak too. I'm not sure how the two are related but that's what has happened. |
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