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Vodafone and O2 4G experience thread
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InfamousTeal
06-11-2016
VF/O2 have applied to build a new mast in a town near me that currently struggles to get 2G on both operators, so it's really needed.

However it's not going down well, there have already been sixteen objections.

I notice that a good number of the objections are the exact same letter but just signed from a different address? Do you think one guy has handed it out to his neighbours and asked them to send it in?

It's here: http://epicpublic.planningni.gov.uk/...=OCEYQFSV30000

If you press the Documents tab, then view the associated documents, and then go to "Representations" you'll see all the objection letters (worth a read! They're all very upset that this "ugly" thing is coming to their little town. Poor mast.)
Ashley_Bradbury
06-11-2016
it was the new Huawei antennas
mobilecentre
06-11-2016
Originally Posted by dts5000:
“Not far from my friends house is a new base station its o2 only any 2g/ 3g 900mhz this is not a temp site but a new permanent one spoke to a o2 engineer there and it's running as o2 only as a vodafone site 1 mile down the road is staying vodafone only so no sharing on those two sites”

That's interesting for whatever reason each decided to do their own thing and CTIL gets paid for each no doubt!
clewsy
06-11-2016
Originally Posted by InfamousTeal:
“VF/O2 have applied to build a new mast in a town near me that currently struggles to get 2G on both operators, so it's really needed.

However it's not going down well, there have already been sixteen objections.

I notice that a good number of the objections are the exact same letter but just signed from a different address? Do you think one guy has handed it out to his neighbours and asked them to send it in?

It's here: http://epicpublic.planningni.gov.uk/...=OCEYQFSV30000

If you press the Documents tab, then view the associated documents, and then go to "Representations" you'll see all the objection letters (worth a read! They're all very upset that this "ugly" thing is coming to their little town. Poor mast.)”

You should send in letters supporting it then. Lol
interactiv-uk
06-11-2016
Originally Posted by dts5000:
“Not far from my friends house is a new base station its o2 only any 2g/ 3g 900mhz this is not a temp site but a new permanent one spoke to a o2 engineer there and it's running as o2 only as a vodafone site 1 mile down the road is staying vodafone only so no sharing on those two sites”

Where abouts is this?
interactiv-uk
06-11-2016
Originally Posted by InfamousTeal:
“VF/O2 have applied to build a new mast in a town near me that currently struggles to get 2G on both operators, so it's really needed.

However it's not going down well, there have already been sixteen objections.

I notice that a good number of the objections are the exact same letter but just signed from a different address? Do you think one guy has handed it out to his neighbours and asked them to send it in?

It's here: http://epicpublic.planningni.gov.uk/...=OCEYQFSV30000

If you press the Documents tab, then view the associated documents, and then go to "Representations" you'll see all the objection letters (worth a read! They're all very upset that this "ugly" thing is coming to their little town. Poor mast.)”

Have a look at the site location plan in documents - theres a photos of where it will be sited - looks like a scrap yard behind a caravan site! Hardly a glamorous location!!
M1kos
07-11-2016
why dont we all send letters of support its easy enough to create an account ive done it many times for applications! just choose a bogus address to the nearby site! I'll do one tonight
M1kos
07-11-2016
Originally Posted by dts5000:
“Not far from my friends house is a new base station its o2 only any 2g/ 3g 900mhz this is not a temp site but a new permanent one spoke to a o2 engineer there and it's running as o2 only as a vodafone site 1 mile down the road is staying vodafone only so no sharing on those two sites”

is this inside the M25 as the same thing has happened near me an o2 site has been moved from one roof top to another just for 2G/3G as the Voda site around the corner is doing the 4G
Pedro_C
07-11-2016
That's standard for London; there is much more operator separation.
Stereo Steve
07-11-2016
There is no reason why anyone can't send a letter of support, stating that they visit the area regularly and that reception is a problem. You have to fight these fkkkrs at their own game.
Dan 8t1
07-11-2016
Originally Posted by Gigabit:
“Is there any confirmation that O2/VF are switching off masts? Really would like some confirmation in my area.”

Originally Posted by interactiv-uk:
“They are but it only seems to be where both operators are on the same mast (so one set of antennas is upgraded and one is decommissioned) or they are separate masts VERY closet to one another - e.g. In neighbouring fields / adjacent buildings..”

Here in Leicester one of these two has disappeared in the last few weeks.
georgi_prodanov
07-11-2016
I think each operator has to say how many sites have been upgraded and new ones added every year. So we know how far they are
InfamousTeal
07-11-2016
Hmm I wasn't aware you could send letters of support if you didn't live there! That makes sense! Oh I'm gonna do it
interactiv-uk
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by Denco1:
“According to the Ofcom infrastructure report, all networks are up to at least 71% outdoor population coverage. Three networks are at 89%, so if we presume that you are able to receive O2, Vodafone and EE everywhere that you can receive 3, then O2 are at or above 89% according to Ofcom.”

O2 reported 93% outdoor pop coverage as part of the Q3 results..
georgi_prodanov
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by interactiv-uk:
“O2 reported 93% outdoor pop coverage as part of the Q3 results..”

93 percent is very good as EE claim they have 98 percent of the UK population but I am sure it is not indoor coverage. So VO2 are doing very well and very soon Vodafone should turn on the VoLTE as they wanted wider coverage which is just about 95 percent and by the end of this year I think VoLTE will arrive
gwynne
08-11-2016
My recent experience with Vodaphone's 4G network was that it was very,very good!
Coverage superb (I live near Bournemouth) and very fast.
The good news ends there!
Trying to terminate a very straightforward monthly contract in the recommended manner was a nightmare!
I phoned 5 times,spoke to 5 different people who all had a different understanding of how my request should be handled.
During one call the lady on the other end said 'so you want to continue with your contract then'!!!!!!
Eventually a supervisor came on and the contract and balance owed me sorted there and then.
packages
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by georgi_prodanov:
“93 percent is very good as EE claim they have 98 percent of the UK population but I am sure it is not indoor coverage. So VO2 are doing very well and very soon Vodafone should turn on the VoLTE as they wanted wider coverage which is just about 95 percent and by the end of this year I think VoLTE will arrive”

O2 are around 9-12 months behind EE. EE were at 94% pop coverage in December
georgi_prodanov
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by packages:
“O2 are around 9-12 months behind EE. EE were at 94% pop coverage in December”

I have been in many places where EE should have 4G indoors but non of them was right. Outdoors yes but as soon as I step in 3G or 2G. So if this is EE 4G indoor coverage they have a lot more to improve
Gigabit
08-11-2016
Originally Posted by georgi_prodanov:
“93 percent is very good as EE claim they have 98 percent of the UK population but I am sure it is not indoor coverage. So VO2 are doing very well and very soon Vodafone should turn on the VoLTE as they wanted wider coverage which is just about 95 percent and by the end of this year I think VoLTE will arrive”

I highly doubt Vodafone will be doing VoLTE this year. They just don't have the track record of rolling out newer technologies quickly.

They'll also likely bodge it in some way like they do everything.
jaffboy151
09-11-2016
Originally Posted by georgi_prodanov:
“93 percent is very good as EE claim they have 98 percent of the UK population but I am sure it is not indoor coverage. So VO2 are doing very well and very soon Vodafone should turn on the VoLTE as they wanted wider coverage which is just about 95 percent and by the end of this year I think VoLTE will arrive”

If O2 network prioritise in the same as Vodafone do I think it will be a while yet before we see VoLTE and may require an adjustment in the level at which phones dump 4g and switch to 3g as at the moment if you lock your phone to 4g the coverage is in most cases virtually the same as 3g from a mast on most days, but Vodafone seems to drop you down to 900mhz 3g very quickly once signal levels drops a bit. If VoLTE was rolled out now, call continuity to 3g would have to be nailed down tight or else calls would be dropping all over the place.
Apart from around my home area if you stick your phone into 3g/4g only you can nearly always get some sort of data signal albeit very weak now which is a massive improvement on say 6-8 months ago.
Vodafone will never match EE in terms of speed in the majority of places in my opinion, but if nothing changes on EE, soon it could well match or exceed it in terms on data signal availability, EE seems to be dragging it feet upgrading alot of these orange 2g masts and still no sign of the much needed 800mhz which if restricted to VoLTE handsets only will mean its absent from a good chunk of the subscriber base.
packages
09-11-2016
Originally Posted by jaffboy151:
“If O2 network prioritise in the same as Vodafone do I think it will be a while yet before we see VoLTE and may require an adjustment in the level at which phones dump 4g and switch to 3g as at the moment if you lock your phone to 4g the coverage is in most cases virtually the same as 3g from a mast on most days, but Vodafone seems to drop you down to 900mhz 3g very quickly once signal levels drops a bit. If VoLTE was rolled out now, call continuity to 3g would have to be nailed down tight or else calls would be dropping all over the place.
Apart from around my home area if you stick your phone into 3g/4g only you can nearly always get some sort of data signal albeit very weak now which is a massive improvement on say 6-8 months ago.
Vodafone will never match EE in terms of speed in the majority of places in my opinion, but if nothing changes on EE, soon it could well match or exceed it in terms on data signal availability, EE seems to be dragging it feet upgrading alot of these orange 2g masts and still no sign of the much needed 800mhz which if restricted to VoLTE handsets only will mean its absent from a good chunk of the subscriber base.”

It HAS to be restricted to VoLTE handsets.
Thine Wonk
09-11-2016
Originally Posted by packages:
“It HAS to be restricted to VoLTE handsets.”

Why? You could still do circuit switched fallback no?

The fact that Three have reserved 800 for coverage and chosen to use it for extended call support doesn't mean O2 have to, right?
David_bl1
09-11-2016
Originally Posted by georgi_prodanov:
“I have been in many places where EE should have 4G indoors but non of them was right. Outdoors yes but as soon as I step in 3G or 2G. So if this is EE 4G indoor coverage they have a lot more to improve”

CTILs 800Mhz 4G might offer lower headline speeds but it absolutely wipes the floor with EE for in-building coverage.

I recently spent time around Yorkshire for work. In most places EE had excellent outdoor 4G coverage but as soon as you stepped foot inside a building it dropped to extremely weak 3G or even useless EDGE. In one building EE had a 2G/3G/4G site less than 100m away but it just couldn't penetrate at all.

CTIL by comparison still had strong 4G indoors with a perfectly usable 12-15Mbps at 800Mhz where EE had no signal at all.

EE really need to install 800Mhz on more sites in built up areas otherwise CTIL is going to take the lead. It's all well and good EE proclaiming incredible top speeds via aggregation, but if a significant percentage of EEs customers cannot get a signal indoors then it's hardly a benefit.
packages
09-11-2016
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“Why? You could still do circuit switched fallback no?

The fact that Three have reserved 800 for coverage and chosen to use it for extended call support doesn't mean O2 have to, right?”

I was talking about EE, thought you were too? I don't get what you are trying to say
To 2g which runs at 1800mhz and 3G at 2100mhz so what happens in areas with only 800mhz coverage?
M1kos
09-11-2016
Originally Posted by David_bl1:
“CTILs 800Mhz 4G might offer lower headline speeds but it absolutely wipes the floor with EE for in-building coverage.

I recently spent time around Yorkshire for work. In most places EE had excellent outdoor 4G coverage but as soon as you stepped foot inside a building it dropped to extremely weak 3G or even useless EDGE. In one building EE had a 2G/3G/4G site less than 100m away but it just couldn't penetrate at all.

CTIL by comparison still had strong 4G indoors with a perfectly usable 12-15Mbps at 800Mhz where EE had no signal at all.

EE really need to install 800Mhz on more sites in built up areas otherwise CTIL is going to take the lead. It's all well and good EE proclaiming incredible top speeds via aggregation, but if a significant percentage of EEs customers cannot get a signal indoors then it's hardly a benefit.”

Definately! 800/900 are just so much better than 1800/2100/2600 for building penetration and I'd rather have a good 20meg than 100+ that doesnt work indoors
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