Originally Posted by Gigabit:
“Vodafone coverage checker seems broken.”
“Vodafone coverage checker seems broken.”
Yep, broken.
Vodafone and O2 4G experience thread
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Still no sign of Voda 4g in Milton Keynes, crazy! Considering this is the UK's fastest growing town and economy we do really need 4g a heck of alot more than somewhere like Braintree or Skegness - both of which have 4g!!!
Originally Posted by Crazy Frog:
“Still no sign of Voda 4g in Milton Keynes, crazy! Considering this is the UK's fastest growing town and economy we do really need 4g a heck of alot more than somewhere like Braintree or Skegness - both of which have 4g!!!”
“Still no sign of Voda 4g in Milton Keynes, crazy! Considering this is the UK's fastest growing town and economy we do really need 4g a heck of alot more than somewhere like Braintree or Skegness - both of which have 4g!!!”
O2 and Voda both 4G'd Bedford over the last couple of months, so I guess MK should get some soon.
Originally Posted by Skippy2005:
“Telefonica has finalised the sale of O2 to Three UK.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/business-32043874”
“Telefonica has finalised the sale of O2 to Three UK.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/business-32043874”
Can I quote the Wavejock posts now saying that this would never happen.
Haha
Go on allow me one of many I could have posted.http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/newre...ply&p=56823928
Originally Posted by wavejockglw:
“No comment ... as usual.... selective consumption of facts and predictable minimal response.
This thread is speculative nonsense. It's far more likely that Telefonica would take mega loss making 3 UK/Ireland off Hutchison Whampoa's hands than them selling a profitable asset to HWL.
No further response to this flamebait will be provided - thread now ignored.”
“No comment ... as usual.... selective consumption of facts and predictable minimal response.
This thread is speculative nonsense. It's far more likely that Telefonica would take mega loss making 3 UK/Ireland off Hutchison Whampoa's hands than them selling a profitable asset to HWL.
No further response to this flamebait will be provided - thread now ignored.”
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“Can I quote the Wavejock posts now saying that this would never happen.
Haha Go on allow me one of many I could have posted.
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/newre...ply&p=56823928”
“Can I quote the Wavejock posts now saying that this would never happen.
Haha
Go on allow me one of many I could have posted.http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/newre...ply&p=56823928”
Haha great stuff!
Hutchison said in a statement earlier that the key factor in buying O2 was to wind up Wavejock.
Mind you, I've lost the link to it. But I wouldn't make it up!
Mind you, I've lost the link to it. But I wouldn't make it up!
Will it get approved though? Certainly hope not as this is going to be really bad news for the consumer in the longer term. We are seeing the market get less and less competitive and you can rest assured we are going to be paying way more in the longer term and get less and less investment.
I has happened in so many markets and lets hope they throw it back, however knowing how anything decent for the consumer works you can bet it will be fast tracked though.
I has happened in so many markets and lets hope they throw it back, however knowing how anything decent for the consumer works you can bet it will be fast tracked though.
Originally Posted by clewsy:
“Will it get approved though? Certainly hope not as this is going to be really bad news for the consumer in the longer term. We are seeing the market get less and less competitive and you can rest assured we are going to be paying way more in the longer term and get less and less investment.
I has happened in so many markets and lets hope they throw it back, however knowing how anything decent for the consumer works you can bet it will be fast tracked though.”
“Will it get approved though? Certainly hope not as this is going to be really bad news for the consumer in the longer term. We are seeing the market get less and less competitive and you can rest assured we are going to be paying way more in the longer term and get less and less investment.
I has happened in so many markets and lets hope they throw it back, however knowing how anything decent for the consumer works you can bet it will be fast tracked though.”
I do hope it does go through. Why?
So I don't constantly get asked by my customers (who are on O2)....
"Why is it when I go out and about, I can't do Facebook, Internet, Sat Nav etc..."
This applies equally to VOD users too down here.
I'm in the middle of South Devon. Check out the VO2 3G coverage here on the maps and you'll see what I mean.
Then compare to the EE 3G coverage (which is pretty much the same on Three).
I'm not making this up. I get asked this all the time. "Normal" people don't know what 2G/3G is.
EE/Three customers just assume everyone has "the Internet" when they are out!
Something I have noticed repeatedly is that O2/VF customers seem to believe that shoddy internet or coverage is a fact of life, that "all networks are the same" and that there is no point changing.
I also believe that this is why Cameron decided that mobile coverage is suddenly a huge priority after he was in Cornwall and couldn't get a signal to contact anyone while something was happening abroad. Vodafone is a major supplier to government, and Polzeath (where he was reported to be at the time) conveniently is a Vodafone blackspot. If he was on another network he'd have had no problems at all.
Personally, I find it hilarious watching V-O2 customers struggle to get email on their crappy GPRS connections while I'm streaming Netflix in HD next to them on the train, on 3
The difference is like night and day. EE/3 in Cornwall is extremely good, most of the 3G blackspots are normally 2G blackspots too, and speeds/latency are fine. EE 4G is continuing to get better. Vodafone and O2 2G coverage is of course superb (for voice/text, not data as GPRS is useless), but the 3G coverage continues to severely lack, and many places that now have Vodafone 3G might as well not have it, because the performance is so crap. No 4G yet of course.
It will be very interesting to see what 3 or Hutchison do if they get the O2 sale through the authorities
I also believe that this is why Cameron decided that mobile coverage is suddenly a huge priority after he was in Cornwall and couldn't get a signal to contact anyone while something was happening abroad. Vodafone is a major supplier to government, and Polzeath (where he was reported to be at the time) conveniently is a Vodafone blackspot. If he was on another network he'd have had no problems at all.
Personally, I find it hilarious watching V-O2 customers struggle to get email on their crappy GPRS connections while I'm streaming Netflix in HD next to them on the train, on 3
The difference is like night and day. EE/3 in Cornwall is extremely good, most of the 3G blackspots are normally 2G blackspots too, and speeds/latency are fine. EE 4G is continuing to get better. Vodafone and O2 2G coverage is of course superb (for voice/text, not data as GPRS is useless), but the 3G coverage continues to severely lack, and many places that now have Vodafone 3G might as well not have it, because the performance is so crap. No 4G yet of course.
It will be very interesting to see what 3 or Hutchison do if they get the O2 sale through the authorities
Yes assuming they just enable access then you win on those grounds, but once your paying £10 more for the same aging crap that is overloaded and no one bothers upgrading - then customers will realise th weakness of the market.
We are starting to see improvements all round on all networks - now you have to suspect it will all slow down. Yoo dont spend money to improve things for the customer, you spend to make nice profits and produce synergy savings ...just think of all those 2 masts into 1 with overloaded and expensive contracts.
We are starting to see improvements all round on all networks - now you have to suspect it will all slow down. Yoo dont spend money to improve things for the customer, you spend to make nice profits and produce synergy savings ...just think of all those 2 masts into 1 with overloaded and expensive contracts.
Originally Posted by moox:
“Something I have noticed repeatedly is that O2/VF customers seem to believe that shoddy internet or coverage is a fact of life, that "all networks are the same" and that there is no point changing.”
“Something I have noticed repeatedly is that O2/VF customers seem to believe that shoddy internet or coverage is a fact of life, that "all networks are the same" and that there is no point changing.”
Agreed, my barber (been on O2 since before it was BTCellnet) used to say just that. Now though, after some encouragement from and the "what handset do you have" conversation with me, he's now on Three - and is as happy as a pig in muck
heh.
Originally Posted by moox:
“I also believe that this is why Cameron decided that mobile coverage is suddenly a huge priority after he was in Cornwall and couldn't get a signal to contact anyone while something was happening abroad. Vodafone is a major supplier to government, and Polzeath (where he was reported to be at the time) conveniently is a Vodafone blackspot. If he was on another network he'd have had no problems at all.”
“I also believe that this is why Cameron decided that mobile coverage is suddenly a huge priority after he was in Cornwall and couldn't get a signal to contact anyone while something was happening abroad. Vodafone is a major supplier to government, and Polzeath (where he was reported to be at the time) conveniently is a Vodafone blackspot. If he was on another network he'd have had no problems at all.”
Yes, he had problems while visiting Norfolk too. There were some reports in the local papers at the time (which went national) about his complaining about having to wave his phone around outside to get a signal and make a call. I know the local MP has had similar issues on O2 before, plus complaining about his battery dropping like a stone when on (as it turned out) auto 2G/3G mode.
Originally Posted by moox:
“Personally, I find it hilarious watching V-O2 customers struggle to get email on their crappy GPRS connections while I'm streaming Netflix in HD next to them on the train, on 3.
The difference is like night and day. EE/3 in Cornwall is extremely good, most of the 3G blackspots are normally 2G blackspots too, and speeds/latency are fine. EE 4G is continuing to get better. Vodafone and O2 2G coverage is of course superb (for voice/text, not data as GPRS is useless), but the 3G coverage continues to severely lack, and many places that now have Vodafone 3G might as well not have it, because the performance is so crap. No 4G yet of course.”
“Personally, I find it hilarious watching V-O2 customers struggle to get email on their crappy GPRS connections while I'm streaming Netflix in HD next to them on the train, on 3.
The difference is like night and day. EE/3 in Cornwall is extremely good, most of the 3G blackspots are normally 2G blackspots too, and speeds/latency are fine. EE 4G is continuing to get better. Vodafone and O2 2G coverage is of course superb (for voice/text, not data as GPRS is useless), but the 3G coverage continues to severely lack, and many places that now have Vodafone 3G might as well not have it, because the performance is so crap. No 4G yet of course.”
Likewise, although it's long distance bus here as there's a distinct lack of rail lines in the county. West of Norwich in particular it's like night and day - VF/O2 with (weaker than you'd expect) GPRS, while EE and Three happily rattle along on 3G.
As you say though, O2 is fine here too for voice/texts (despite it's lack of HD Voice) as long as you don't go too far out into the sticks. Vodafone though, well, traditionally it's been fine here for 2G, but as time goes on something seems very wrong - I know a remarkable amount of people who, off their own backs, are leaving the network due to it 'not working anymore', so make of that what you will.
Originally Posted by moox:
“It will be very interesting to see what 3 or Hutchison do if they get the O2 sale through the authorities”
“It will be very interesting to see what 3 or Hutchison do if they get the O2 sale through the authorities”
Agreed. One of the most irritating things about O2 here (at least for me) is that they have a mast very close to me, practically line of sight and about as close as my nearest MBNL mast, however it's only (surprise surprise) 2G, and has been that way for several years. Hopefully, if this all goes through, with Hutch/Three in charge it might actually get 3G'd (as it's well positioned), which would be nice.
Originally Posted by lost boy:
“Agreed, my barber (been on O2 since before it was BTCellnet) used to say just that. Now though, after some encouragement from and the "what handset do you have" conversation with me, he's now on Three - and is as happy as a pig in muck heh.
Yes, he had problems while visiting Norfolk too. There were some reports in the local papers at the time (which went national) about his complaining about having to wave his phone around outside to get a signal and make a call. I know the local MP has had similar issues on O2 before, plus complaining about his battery dropping like a stone when on (as it turned out) auto 2G/3G mode.
Likewise, although it's long distance bus here as there's a distinct lack of rail lines in the county. West of Norwich in particular it's like night and day - VF/O2 with (weaker than you'd expect) GPRS, while EE and Three happily rattle along on 3G.
As you say though, O2 is fine here too for voice/texts (despite it's lack of HD Voice) as long as you don't go too far out into the sticks. Vodafone though, well, traditionally it's been fine here for 2G, but as time goes on something seems very wrong - I know a remarkable amount of people who, off their own backs, are leaving the network due to it 'not working anymore', so make of that what you will.
Agreed. One of the most irritating things about O2 here (at least for me) is that they have a mast very close to me, practically line of sight and about as close as my nearest MBNL mast, however it's only (surprise surprise) 2G, and has been that way for several years. Hopefully, if this all goes through, with Hutch/Three in charge it might actually get 3G'd (as it's well positioned), which would be nice.”
“Agreed, my barber (been on O2 since before it was BTCellnet) used to say just that. Now though, after some encouragement from and the "what handset do you have" conversation with me, he's now on Three - and is as happy as a pig in muck
heh.Yes, he had problems while visiting Norfolk too. There were some reports in the local papers at the time (which went national) about his complaining about having to wave his phone around outside to get a signal and make a call. I know the local MP has had similar issues on O2 before, plus complaining about his battery dropping like a stone when on (as it turned out) auto 2G/3G mode.
Likewise, although it's long distance bus here as there's a distinct lack of rail lines in the county. West of Norwich in particular it's like night and day - VF/O2 with (weaker than you'd expect) GPRS, while EE and Three happily rattle along on 3G.
As you say though, O2 is fine here too for voice/texts (despite it's lack of HD Voice) as long as you don't go too far out into the sticks. Vodafone though, well, traditionally it's been fine here for 2G, but as time goes on something seems very wrong - I know a remarkable amount of people who, off their own backs, are leaving the network due to it 'not working anymore', so make of that what you will.
Agreed. One of the most irritating things about O2 here (at least for me) is that they have a mast very close to me, practically line of sight and about as close as my nearest MBNL mast, however it's only (surprise surprise) 2G, and has been that way for several years. Hopefully, if this all goes through, with Hutch/Three in charge it might actually get 3G'd (as it's well positioned), which would be nice.”
Nice to have a choice it's Vodafone or O2 2G or nothing the others are a complete no. You get strong areas but lots of Cotswolds are bad
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I also believe that this is why Cameron decided that mobile coverage is suddenly a huge priority after he was in Cornwall and couldn't get a signal to contact anyone while something was happening abroad. Vodafone is a major supplier to government, and Polzeath (where he was reported to be at the time) conveniently is a Vodafone blackspot. If he was on another network he'd have had no problems at all.
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I also believe that this is why Cameron decided that mobile coverage is suddenly a huge priority after he was in Cornwall and couldn't get a signal to contact anyone while something was happening abroad. Vodafone is a major supplier to government, and Polzeath (where he was reported to be at the time) conveniently is a Vodafone blackspot. If he was on another network he'd have had no problems at all.
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The Cabinet Office has made all the government departments break up all of the telecommunications contracts I believe. So a contract that would have gone to one provider for all things technology now has to have each single aspect put out to tender with subcontracts and a service integrator. A lot of government departments are having to move from Vodaphone with it, I know quite a few DfT ones are moving to o2 through a company called Unify (https://www.unify.com) which is actually Siemens. You get some really big names in these quite small contracts (by government standards).
I got an SMS the other day from Vodafone, it said you're not making the most out of your text message allowance and suggested what texts are for. What is this, the early 90s? 
Originally Posted by Gigabit:
“I got an SMS the other day from Vodafone, it said you're not making the most out of your text message allowance and suggested what texts are for. What is this, the early 90s?”
“I got an SMS the other day from Vodafone, it said you're not making the most out of your text message allowance and suggested what texts are for. What is this, the early 90s?
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texts? I thought everyone was WhatsApp-ing or Facebook Messenger-ing these days?
Originally Posted by jchamier:
“texts? I thought everyone was WhatsApp-ing or Facebook Messenger-ing these days?”
“texts? I thought everyone was WhatsApp-ing or Facebook Messenger-ing these days?”
Probably bit cheaper to send a couple of texts £1 for a few mb on O2 to use GPRS and slow.
Originally Posted by mrgs1:
“Probably bit cheaper to send a couple of texts £1 for a few mb on O2 to use GPRS and slow.”
“Probably bit cheaper to send a couple of texts £1 for a few mb on O2 to use GPRS and slow.”
You mean you don't get inclusive data? Bad price plan that!
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“Text back to say sod off. That'll use up one of your texts.”
“Text back to say sod off. That'll use up one of your texts.”
LOL...
Was told something interesting today about the Vodafone & O2 rollout they currently have two teams special teams of engineers one covering North of Nottingham and the other South their role is going round doing upgrades in key general Election battlegrounds.
This makes good sense as where the party leaders go will be the strong media circus that follows all wanting to upload photos and videos. Also on election night Sky news and BBC are planning on covering even more results declaration this year many of these will be done with new technology using 4G so on the election night the networks are predicting huge spikes in data as there will be all the media and people involved in the election using their phones and devices.
This makes good sense as where the party leaders go will be the strong media circus that follows all wanting to upload photos and videos. Also on election night Sky news and BBC are planning on covering even more results declaration this year many of these will be done with new technology using 4G so on the election night the networks are predicting huge spikes in data as there will be all the media and people involved in the election using their phones and devices.
Lots going on around South East London, Sidcup now has a live Vodafone 4G mast in the towns centre.... i didnt see that one coming as the pp got turned down?! Also a Monopole in Blackfen with a good view is live now Barnehurst railway station monopole has been upgraded and further out Medway has had three new sites go live recently and one in Swanley and another down in Borough Green are being upgraded next week! 
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