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Vodafone and O2 4G experience thread
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jaffboy151
23-07-2015
Originally Posted by Gigabit:
“I don't think I've ever seen decent performance from 900MHz 3G on either O2 or Vodafone to be honest.

Vodafone 4G is working nicely in Alton, Hants though. Still no EE 4G.

http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/1377446572”

900mhz does work well on masts which can serve rural or smaller towns, I can happily stream 128k radio streams and use Spotify/Google music without a problem which is more then the masts on the same route which serve three & EE due to the atrocious backhaul on them, in reality these 900mhz masts are on the edges of various towns along the route some distance away while the closer masts are ignored as they are 2G only.
900mhz in populated areas just seemes to get swamped, a symptom of this seeing my phone request a Web page or something else several times before it gets a response.
Stereo Steve
23-07-2015
Fair bit of VOD 3G coming up as planned in the south west now. Seems they are finally putting some effort into it.
Skippy2005
23-07-2015
Originally Posted by Stereo Steve:
“Fair bit of VOD 3G coming up as planned in the south west now. Seems they are finally putting some effort into it.”

Is Vodafone rolling out 3G @ 900 and 2100mhz nationwide? Naturally I know 2100 won't give blanket coverage due to poor building penetration? Or are the just rolling out 900 in villages and rural areas with 2100/900 for cities and towns?
M1kos
23-07-2015
most of the new stuff planned for Cornwall will be 3G 900/4G 800
Stereo Steve
23-07-2015
The bigger question is whether it will actually have any capacity and be usable. To be honest if VOD added 3G900 to their 2G coverage and it worked, that would probably be enough for me for some years to come. Their 2G signal (calls, not GPRS or EDGE) is, I would say, the best in the South West, given O2's call quality issues.
lightspeed2398
23-07-2015
If Vodafone do a proper rollout of 3g900 and 3g2100 and show commitment to a really good 4g rollout with both 800 and 2600 rolled out well I'll be switching to them having tried them out the indoor coverage in certain buildings I visit is so much better. I always knew their 2g coverage was good I've been on them for that since 2001 I think.
Skippy2005
24-07-2015
Hi everyone I know I asked a similar sort of question last week but!!.... Vodafone have planned work on my local mast, it's from 8am 27/7/15 to 8pm 31/7/15 to work on both 2/3G call and data. This mast pumps out 10mb down 2-3up and its in the city centre so it's pretty good. Does this work possibly mean upgrade to 4G also as it still has the old equipment on it, O2 are carrying out work in this area too on 30th I wonder if it could be linked! This mast has 2/3G 900 and 2100.

The fact that's it's over 4days is making me think it could be to rip out all the old and in with the new! What is anyone else's thoughts on this, we already have pretty good coverage with 4G in Wakefield centre but it's slowing down now 10-20mb down and 4-8mb up.

Thanks.
jaffboy151
24-07-2015
Looking at plans and schedules on some planning sites for future installations near me and roadworks.org sounds like a full strip down and replacement, which they seem to do on almost all upgrades, one mast in Crewe is having a few days work with some Road closures for backhaul at a guess and hiab work replacing the pole, some sites in Telford Shropshire have additional 4g cabinets going in others are utilising space in those big grey or green cabinets that are already there..
You might get 10mbps download speed but the backhaul will no doubt still need upgrading to support 4g 800mhz & 2600mhz
Skippy2005
24-07-2015
Originally Posted by jaffboy151:
“Looking at plans and schedules on some planning sites for future installations near me and roadworks.org sounds like a full strip down and replacement, which they seem to do on almost all upgrades, one mast in Crewe is having a few days work with some Road closures for backhaul at a guess and hiab work replacing the pole, some sites in Telford Shropshire have additional 4g cabinets going in others are utilising space in those big grey or green cabinets that are already there..
You might get 10mbps download speed but the backhaul will no doubt still need upgrading to support 4g 800mhz & 2600mhz”

That's what I thought, Roadworks does show some telecom work going on but as far as I can see its BT work, I'm not sure if this is linked as the mast is on a BT exchange! The pavement outside the exchange is dug up, I thought Voda used C&W for all their masts now?
uno
24-07-2015
It does sound like you will be getting a 4G upgrade to your mast next week.

Quite often the backhaul upgrades will show on planning websites as BT as although its C&W fibre it is BT Openreach that do the work and connect it up. If a shared mast with O2 it may also show Virgin Media work too for their work as well.
clewsy
25-07-2015
Yes that sounds like a mast upgrade and o2 seem to always have a day after, yet all seems done usually after day 2.
M1kos
25-07-2015
Go and have a look at the site within the dates hopefully some new shiny antennas will be gleaming from the top of the tower!! defo looks to be an upgrade good if it is as CTIL had issues with BT over upgrading their sites due to voda/o2 becoming one from a mast point of view and new terms having to be agreed to rent there roof space! some of the BT sites are looked after by Aquiva i believe
rasseru16
25-07-2015
My MiFi is picking up O2 & Vodafone 4G on a manual network scan, but when I try to connect with my Tesco Mobile sim card registration fails. Could it be in testing phase?

Screenshot: http://s23.postimg.org/x0jtcqwln/O2_...twork_Scan.jpg
Skippy2005
25-07-2015
Originally Posted by M1kos:
“Go and have a look at the site within the dates hopefully some new shiny antennas will be gleaming from the top of the tower!! defo looks to be an upgrade good if it is as CTIL had issues with BT over upgrading their sites due to voda/o2 becoming one from a mast point of view and new terms having to be agreed to rent there roof space! some of the BT sites are looked after by Aquiva i believe”

I pasted the BT exchange building today walking into town, the road is dug up and it's emergency work being carried out for BT by Thanet or someone like that so I'm not sure! Some green fibre cabs are also being installed by the looks of things, there is about 40 BT open reach vans in car park as they obviously don't work weekends! Strange that someone else is carrying out the work when it's the main base for the district?
Skippy2005
25-07-2015
Originally Posted by Skippy2005:
“I pasted the BT exchange building today walking into town, the road is dug up and it's emergency work being carried out for BT by Thanet or someone like that so I'm not sure! Some green fibre cabs are also being installed by the looks of things, there is about 40 BT open reach vans in car park as they obviously don't work weekends! Strange that someone else is carrying out the work when it's the main base for the district?”

Unless they are adding the backhaul for O2??
clewsy
25-07-2015
Originally Posted by rasseru16:
“My MiFi is picking up O2 & Vodafone 4G on a manual network scan, but when I try to connect with my Tesco Mobile sim card registration fails. Could it be in testing phase?

Screenshot: http://s23.postimg.org/x0jtcqwln/O2_...twork_Scan.jpg”

A friend on Tesco says the same that he can't get 4g, so think it's one of those things you can use if you agree to a new 4g contract. So the customers on the old contracts are stuck wirbt 3g.
rasseru16
25-07-2015
Originally Posted by clewsy:
“A friend on Tesco says the same that he can't get 4g, so think it's one of those things you can use if you agree to a new 4g contract. So the customers on the old contracts are stuck wirbt 3g.”

That's odd because Tesco includes 4G at no extra cost regardless of plan. I have recieved 4G signal before with the same sim card I have but it doesn't wanna join the 4G network in my town.
clewsy
25-07-2015
Originally Posted by rasseru16:
“That's odd because Tesco includes 4G at no extra cost regardless of plan. I have recieved 4G signal before with the same sim card I have but it doesn't wanna join the 4G network in my town.”

I can't comment with only having a 3g phone, however he has called them and they say they have enabled 4g, however it won't find 4g. I think he was then told that he would need to take out a new sim only contract as they are the ones with the 4g sim cards. Not sure how correct any of this is, other than I know he doesn't get 4g.
Gigabit
25-07-2015
So a new mast has gone live in Alton, Hants for O2.

I believe it was previously a Vodafone-only pole mast and only served GPRS. It has had Vodafone 3G and 4G for at least six months so the O2 delay was strange but O2 3G and 4G are now live on it.

It also is EDGE-enabled for O2 - I assume all new O2-enabled masts are automatically given EDGE?

Throughput is still appalling on 3G (1Mb is about the average) but Vodafone 3G is consistently at least 10Mbps. I don't believe it is 900MHz 3G enabled but I'd have to test this.
Gigabit
25-07-2015
Originally Posted by rasseru16:
“That's odd because Tesco includes 4G at no extra cost regardless of plan. I have recieved 4G signal before with the same sim card I have but it doesn't wanna join the 4G network in my town.”

That's actually not the case - if you have an old plan you don't get 4G for free: you have to upgrade to one of the newer plans.
clewsy
25-07-2015
This is my problem with Tesco as don't want 18 months with them when they could be sold, and those are the best sim only deals.

Shame Sainsburys mobile can't have access to Vodafone's 4g
Gigabit
25-07-2015
Originally Posted by clewsy:
“This is my problem with Tesco as don't want 18 months with them when they could be sold, and those are the best sim only deals.

Shame Sainsburys mobile can't have access to Vodafone's 4g”

Go SIM-only and buy the phone SIM-free,

Much cheaper (in nearly all cases).
mrMick
26-07-2015
I note Vodafone have plans to massively improve the network in my area. Just in time for me leaving lol.. typical! Still, good to see it on the horizon, even if it is a few years too late, really.
Skippy2005
26-07-2015
Originally Posted by uno:
“It does sound like you will be getting a 4G upgrade to your mast next week.

Quite often the backhaul upgrades will show on planning websites as BT as although its C&W fibre it is BT Openreach that do the work and connect it up. If a shared mast with O2 it may also show Virgin Media work too for their work as well.”

I have just found on roadworks.org O2 are removing the old cabinets and replacing with new on 23rd August, I did a little wee when I found this ha ha. I wonder if the work tomorrow for the next 4 days is to upgrade and fire up new Vodafone cabs and 2/3/4G with O2 coming along in August to link themselves up.
clewsy
26-07-2015
Originally Posted by Gigabit:
“Go SIM-only and buy the phone SIM-free,

Much cheaper (in nearly all cases).”

Yes but there best sim only deals are now 18months as well.
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