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Another question, providing O2 rollout their 1800mhz for 4G properly with the correct backhaul and to enough sites! What sort of speeds are we looking at minus congestion? Around 30mb?? And in theory what sort of speeds if they are CA with 800mhz? Would O2 likely rollout of 1800mhz as MIMO to increase capacity??
Also do you think they will need to do a nationwide rollout given they could soon be part of 3, or could it be ploy to safeguard their spectrum like EE have ensuring they are using it all to avoid a sell off?? Thanks ❓ I don't think it has anything to do with the Three deal (which isn't even being looked at by the authorities yet). In any case the spectrum is already being used by them. They are just repurposing it. |
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I'd forgotten that several cat 4 devices will be able to take advantage in the meantime before they get there hands on Three's 800MHz, if/when that happens.
Any idea if they still plan on using 0.8MHz of 2G along with the 5MHz of 1800MHz 4G? I guess that would be pretty pointless though, maybe they are just replacing 1800MHz 2G cards with 4G cards meaning only cabinet work would be required and no feeder or antenna work. The priority thing will be interesting as it goes against what normally happens as you say. The carriers still have to work as standalone ones. When I was in Italy recently I noticed Vodafone had different priorities for 1800 as in some areas they have 10MHz of it in use and in other areas 15MHz. |
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Vodafone SIM Only back on the discounted price. They really can't make up their minds can they?
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I think they just want to just get more customers as they need to build their subs base really.
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I think they just want to just get more customers as they need to build their subs base really.
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Well its economies of scale I guess. If they get more customers then they can reduce unit costs and I suspose makes it easier to keep them long term.
They arnt bad prices on the offers. They should really just stick at them and they could increase customer base nicely. |
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Well its economies of scale I guess. If they get more customers then they can reduce unit costs and I suspose makes it easier to keep them long term.
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Yeah
Vodafone are said to be an awful network and well behind EE |
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Yeah
Vodafone are said to be an awful network and well behind EE |
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Vodafones 4G network is turning out to be bloody good. They're signal penetrates better and travels further and speeds aren't half bad. I would say pure network speeds aren't everything and id take a solid reliable and slightly slower speed anyday. I believe quickly Vodafone are starting to offer this.
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So Vodafone are a UK-based company and their primary market isn't the UK?!?
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I'm sure I've asked this before but nevermind.
Why does my Vodafone smartphone constantly switch between GPRS and EDGE, even though the location of the phone remains the same? |
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I'm sure I've asked this before but nevermind.
Why does my Vodafone smartphone constantly switch between GPRS and EDGE, even though the location of the phone remains the same? |
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So Vodafone are a UK-based company and their primary market isn't the UK?!?
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I'm sure I've asked this before but nevermind.
Why does my Vodafone smartphone constantly switch between GPRS and EDGE, even though the location of the phone remains the same? Quote:
2g wise no, they're in front. 3g and 4g they're well behind but catching up rapidly. They've got money to chuck at the problem.
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2g wise no, they're in front. 3g and 4g they're well behind but catching up rapidly. They've got money to chuck at the problem.
They're going to have to spend a lot of money to get close to EE or 3 in terms of coverage - and even where there is coverage they haven't spent any money on backhaul (as the local VF 3G site proves. I can get 20+Mbps on EE or 3, 10-15Mbps on O2 (where it exists), and a whopping 1Mbit on Vodafone) |
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What annoys me about Voda is they buy up loads of spectrum and don't do anything with some of it - dunno if his is tactical to stop other operators using it. That certainly did this with 3G, successfully buying the same amount as 3 which was more than O2, Orange and T-Mobile. They were in the best place for 3G rollout but just sat on the spectrum! There should be some sort of use it or lose it policy (unless there is but Ofcom don't really push it).
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Vodafone have had money to chuck at the problem since 3G was brand new. They've spent the last decade doing pretty much the opposite.
They're going to have to spend a lot of money to get close to EE or 3 in terms of coverage - and even where there is coverage they haven't spent any money on backhaul (as the local VF 3G site proves. I can get 20+Mbps on EE or 3, 10-15Mbps on O2 (where it exists), and a whopping 1Mbit on Vodafone) https://flic.kr/p/xEGVBc |
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Because it's likely to be switching between masts, one is likely to have been upgraded at some point to Edge only or recently to 2/3/4G. G is really the first generation 2G data.
![]() It now also switches to HSPA+ which is a very poor signal indeed - no data flows over it so it'll be very intelligent and stay on that for about 10 minutes before switching to a bar of 4G which does work and then back down to EDGE again... |
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It now also switches to HSPA+ which is a very poor signal indeed - no data flows over it so it'll be very intelligent and stay on that for about 10 minutes before switching to a bar of 4G which does work and then back down to EDGE again...
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Is it me or dos Vodafone go to 3G on standby? And H+ when data is getting used?
Question Is. If your in a 4G area dos it default to 2G/3G if no Data is passing? |
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Is it me or dos Vodafone go to 3G on standby? And H+ when data is getting used?
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My phone stays in 4G all the time unless someone calls me I've hardly ever see 3G anymore only on very old masts which haven't been updated otherwise it's always H or H+
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