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Vodafone and O2 4G experience thread
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David_bl1
12-11-2015
Originally Posted by Pedro_C:
“It is normal, seen it fairly frequently.”

Do they add 3G later, or does it remain 2G + 4G?
Pedro_C
12-11-2015
Originally Posted by David_bl1:
“Do they add 3G later, or does it remain 2G + 4G?”

Mostly they just stay as 2G/4G, though I have seen one gain 3G later on.
jaffboy151
12-11-2015
Not seen any evidence of this happening around my area. Where are these masts?
Only realised the other day that Vodafone had 4g-2g switching, put my LG G4 into 2g/4g mode then tried to make a call, it worked fine and dropped back to 4g once finished. It also switched over to 2g fine when I received a call, for some reason I didn't think this was possible, my next thought was if it is clearly possible why is 4g coverage limited to we'll under 900mhz 3g areas instead of just under 900mhz 2g? Seems a waste of such a great new technology to limit it in such a way, plus surely the 2g fallback would only apply to those users outside 900mhz 3g but still with 2g so the demand would be any greater on the old tech. 😕
DevonBloke
12-11-2015
Originally Posted by jaffboy151:
“Not seen any evidence of this happening around my area. Where are these masts?
Only realised the other day that Vodafone had 4g-2g switching, put my LG G4 into 2g/4g mode then tried to make a call, it worked fine and dropped back to 4g once finished. It also switched over to 2g fine when I received a call, for some reason I didn't think this was possible, my next thought was if it is clearly possible why is 4g coverage limited to we'll under 900mhz 3g areas instead of just under 900mhz 2g? Seems a waste of such a great new technology to limit it in such a way, plus surely the 2g fallback would only apply to those users outside 900mhz 3g but still with 2g so the demand would be any greater on the old tech. 😕”

It is possible to do CSFB to 2G. Vod would find this easier than EE since their 2G network is set up for handling a lot of 2G calls anyway.
EE's isn't since most calls go over 3G and I suspect they want to bring some more 1800 over to 4G at some point.
Perhaps Vodafone are doing it to 2G where their 2G kit is new enough.
Still means the 800 has to be slightly restricted on power to stay within 2G's fixed 900 footprint, but no where near as bad as keeping it within 2100.
I still think EE and Three will have an advantage in coverage ultimately since their 800 can be cranked up to 11 and they have a denser network.
Although I think CTIL will eventually have nearly as many masts as EE.
M1kos
12-11-2015
Originally Posted by Pedro_C:
“Mostly they just stay as 2G/4G, though I have seen one gain 3G later on.”

Rubbish. 3G gets implemented eventually more often when the original site is O2 there is a delay
interactiv-uk
12-11-2015
Originally Posted by M1kos:
“Rubbish. 3G gets implemented eventually more often when the original site is O2 there is a delay”

There are a lot of 2G/4G sites out there, most noticeably in the Voda half of the country. A lot of new sites i've seen start as 2G/4G and get 3G added a few days later - dunno if this takes longer to set up than the other technologies.
Gigabit
12-11-2015
In Hampshire, there have been sites with 4G added over a year ago and still no 3G...
LegendaryAced
12-11-2015
We'll be doing some work on our 2G network in this area - to keep things running smoothly. This may affect your calls. Sorry if you notice any disruption.We're expecting to start work on 12am 13 Nov 2015 and have things back to normal by 3am 13 Nov 2015.

That is for Brighton and Hove area. I wonder what changes they will make. Just a routine server software update?
jaffboy151
12-11-2015
Originally Posted by LegendaryAced:
“We'll be doing some work on our 2G network in this area - to keep things running smoothly. This may affect your calls. Sorry if you notice any disruption.We're expecting to start work on 12am 13 Nov 2015 and have things back to normal by 3am 13 Nov 2015.

That is for Brighton and Hove area. I wonder what changes they will make. Just a routine server software update?”

Saw that message and a few variations of it for the 12th and 13th when you type in various locations around Staffordshire, Shropshire & Cheshire, not sure what's going on, there as bad a three for these notices and nothing different happening.
jaffboy151
13-11-2015
Well it's Friday night... Doesn't seem much activity on this thread or on any of the other usual threads on the mobile phone forum,
so I think it's time for some mast Porn...
Zipped my anorak up tight against the wind today and popped out in my lunch break to the nearby Halesfield industrial estate where cornerstone are in the middle of a three day upgrade to an old O2 mast, no sure why they chose this mast which covers a lot of nothing for the 2nd 4g mast in Telford Shropshire so far? The mind boggles as I can think about 15 other vod/O2 masts off the top of my head that would benefit people more in the area. But at least it's a start
Here's the mast as it was:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gj7xv3adup...23-58.png?dl=0
And work today
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pjiv06ego3...4_HDR.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q1d6891si2...5_HDR.jpg?dl=0
Seems I'd just missed the last of the antennas getting fitted,
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i1wifv1ct0...5_HDR.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cd4c3d8u2z...4_HDR.jpg?dl=0
Wanted to have a chat to the guys on the ground but it was fairly windy and raining somewhat, not really relaxing conditions so gave it a miss this time..
M1kos
14-11-2015
I've pinched a pic for my twitter feed hope that is OK. Where is the site exactly
Denco1
14-11-2015
At least one pair of those antennas look very bulky, as if it was an antenna integrated radio (AIR) although I could easily be wrong.
clewsy
14-11-2015
4g on o2 in Newcastle. Well just outside the town centre at the Sainsburys site.

ps.. the newcaslte "down south"
DevonBloke
14-11-2015
Originally Posted by jaffboy151:
“Well it's Friday night... Doesn't seem much activity on this thread or on any of the other usual threads on the mobile phone forum,
so I think it's time for some mast Porn...
Zipped my anorak up tight against the wind today and popped out in my lunch break to the nearby Halesfield industrial estate where cornerstone are in the middle of a three day upgrade to an old O2 mast, no sure why they chose this mast which covers a lot of nothing for the 2nd 4g mast in Telford Shropshire so far? The mind boggles as I can think about 15 other vod/O2 masts off the top of my head that would benefit people more in the area. But at least it's a start
Here's the mast as it was:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gj7xv3adup...23-58.png?dl=0
And work today
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pjiv06ego3...4_HDR.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q1d6891si2...5_HDR.jpg?dl=0
Seems I'd just missed the last of the antennas getting fitted,
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i1wifv1ct0...5_HDR.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cd4c3d8u2z...4_HDR.jpg?dl=0
Wanted to have a chat to the guys on the ground but it was fairly windy and raining somewhat, not really relaxing conditions so gave it a miss this time..”

A tightly fitting anorak and two unsightly erections???
I'm going to report you and get you banned.

Great pics. I never see EE doing anything around here.
It just kind of happens. I think they've perfected invisibility or something.
jaffboy151
14-11-2015
Originally Posted by M1kos:
“I've pinched a pic for my twitter feed hope that is OK. Where is the site exactly”

Here's where the site is as shown on site finder
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6v5myyi9ts...03600.png?dl=0
To my surprise it's a Vodafone site, whereas the works notice on roadworks.org is from O2.
Went past the site again today but didn't have time to stop, still busy wiring in all the antenna feeds, still puzzled as to why they chose this mast, apart from some industrial units it doesn't serve any urban area primarily.

Originally Posted by DevonBloke:
“A tightly fitting anorak and two unsightly erections???
I'm going to report you and get you banned.

Great pics. I never see EE doing anything around here.
It just kind of happens. I think they've perfected invisibility or something.”

It's rare for me to catch anything happening despite all the action in thee parts over the past months, it's usually happening around home when I'm at work or around work when I'm at home or away somewhere...
Don't threaten to ban my mighty erections or I'll break out my stash of dead mast porn
pepstar
15-11-2015
Originally Posted by jaffboy151:
“Here's where the site is as shown on site finder
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6v5myyi9ts...03600.png?dl=0
To my surprise it's a Vodafone site, whereas the works notice on roadworks.org is from O2.
Went past the site again today but didn't have time to stop, still busy wiring in all the antenna feeds, still puzzled as to why they chose this mast, apart from some industrial units it doesn't serve any urban area primarily.


It's rare for me to catch anything happening despite all the action in thee parts over the past months, it's usually happening around home when I'm at work or around work when I'm at home or away somewhere...
Don't threaten to ban my mighty erections or I'll break out my stash of dead mast porn ”

Good work bud, you've moved to EE now from Three? how are you finding EE compared to three? I'm thinking of switching too!
LegendaryAced
16-11-2015
Originally Posted by pepstar:
“Good work bud, you've moved to EE now from Three? how are you finding EE compared to three? I'm thinking of switching too!”

I recently moved from Three to Vodafone.
So far everything seems fine. And I get full 3G at work (previously 1 bar or none). The building I am in, in Brighton, has 3G pico cells installed.
Stereo Steve
18-11-2015
Unless I'm seeing things, VOD 3G coverage appears (from the map) to have massively improved in the South Hams (Devon) overnight. I can't see that they have activated any new masts and it's mostly the outdoor coverage that seems to have improved. I'm assuming that they may have added 3G900 to existing 3G2100 masts?
Pedro_C
18-11-2015
Originally Posted by Stereo Steve:
“Unless I'm seeing things, VOD 3G coverage appears (from the map) to have massively improved in the South Hams (Devon) overnight. I can't see that they have activated any new masts and it's mostly the outdoor coverage that seems to have improved. I'm assuming that they may have added 3G900 to existing 3G2100 masts?”

The map has changed. There's far more outdoors 3G, with less red (2G data) areas shown. However, the predicted indoor 3G coverage from my local site has dropped to almost none (~100m around the mast)
Pedro_C
18-11-2015
Emailed the Chartered Surveyor listed on the planning form about my local Vodafone site as it got planning permission approved one year, three months ago and there are no signs that the work has even started... Am I likely to get a reply? Probably not.
Darkmarsupial
18-11-2015
Shrewsbury 4G map on Voda looking a bit more accurate now. Really small, poor coverage area with no mention of any planned upgrades. Disappointing for me as my home postcode had shown that I'd get some element of 4G coverage for the past four months, and now the map accurately shows next to nothing where I live, despite being merely half a mile from the town centre. So no Vodafone 4G for me.
It looks like it's just a tick-box exercise to say they have 4G in Shrewsbury.

Shame.
M1kos
18-11-2015
They have just added a low signal threshold l outdoor layer too the 3G maps humm looks better than red I suppose
M1kos
18-11-2015
Here's a question could voda get any kind of 4G to using an old Alan dick Antenna as my local site is apparently getting upgrade to 4G the guys are in the cabinet now but there's no pp for new Antennas could they use 1800 or possibly 2300?
Stereo Steve
18-11-2015
Originally Posted by M1kos:
“They have just added a low signal threshold l outdoor layer too the 3G maps humm looks better than red I suppose”

So no actual network changes then? I assumed they must have rolled out 3G900 to existing 3G sites. Not that it works anyway.

Still, good to see a nice few areas finally getting VO2 4G down this way. Something is happening at last.
David_bl1
18-11-2015
The new "outdoors only" signal threshold for 3G on the coverage checker is wishful thinking... certainly no Voda 3G signal near me in the areas currently marked in grey.
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