I have to say that as a user of EE WiFi calling not having SMS would be the most annoying thing ever. I'm always sending them.
I can only think their engineers are idiots who feed crap to top management and they buy it.
Having WC without SMS would be worse than not having WC at all.

Why there's no more 3G/4G in Devon I just don;t know.
In rural south Devon here is the only mast that's live (and that's not completely rural as it's in Kinsbridge). https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.28...8i6656!6m1!1e1
Since this pic in 2014 there is now another dirty great big cab there (for the 4G). Drove past it the other day.
To see how atrocious their rollout is (and why we get so mad about it) just go to the Vod checker and put in kingsbridge. https://www.vodafone.co.uk/explore/n...-map/index.htm
Hi the 4G button and zoom out. Madness.
The best bit? Hit the 3G button. Oh look at all that 3G...... no wait,.... it bloody 2G.
How they can call themselves a mobile network I don't know.
I know voice is still THE base service for any network but they are taking the p***.

There is no WiFi calling of any kind on Android devices, not officially anyway.

T-Mobile US has it on a few Nexus phones, in conjunction with Google? Plus there's project fi

I mean Vodafone WiFi calling. It is not available on any Android phone, yet. It is coming soon so the Samsung Galaxy S6/S6 Edge.

If its like EE they don't have it on all Android phones either ?

EE Firmware needs to be loaded guessing custom configuration for the WiFi Calling settings.

I'm guessing Android is moving to more of the carrier file model employed by iOS but I'm not sure.

Anyway I need an official response from Vodafone as to how they simply missed SMS out of the WiFi calling implementation that they had.

Its a bit shoddy on their part IMO.

I just know Vodafone doesn't support WiFi calling officially on any device that isn't an iPhone.

- DevonBloke

Further to your post about the map I thought I'd put the photos with the full country on 4g on from the MapServer.

However there's been an interesting development since I was last on the map server.

There are now four 4g maps for the country. If anyone can identify the different uses it would be appreciated.

They are as follows:

-4g Live Service - https://imgur.com/8GF5fre

-LTEPlanCoverageMap - https://imgur.com/KGhrOGj

- 4G Live VoLTE - https://imgur.com/YqO6nAk

- 4G Plan OTOC - https://imgur.com/ZXjZf9g

You keep saying that like someone else has made that comment, they haven't,

SMS over WifiCalling on Vodafone is being discussed.

Start here, Green Lantern asking if there is any change to Vodafone WifiCalling not carrying sms (no mention of phone type).


You fly off at a tangent after probably not reading his post properly:


He tries to clarify:

But you just go on and on:





You still haven't actually noticed (or answered) the question about sms support...

Wifi calling now seems essential for a few.

That is a very fast change of events!

A bit like mobile phones, one day a purely business tool, the next the entire world has to have one...

So are you talking about SMS support on the iPhone? If so, I'm afraid I wouldn't know much about that but I hope it's being tested.

What?
No, SMS support over WiFi calling on Vodafone.
Not talking about iOS or Android or anything else OS wise.
Specifically why would you launch WiFi calling without SMS support?
Bonkers.

I have no idea why they wouldn't. I can't say I've been informed that it didn't support SMS via WiFi but if that's the case it seems like a strange decision.

Perhaps they'll add it when they support more devices.

I haven't totally lost faith in Vodafone just yet, I was very impressed with the rapid expansion of 4g around my area, but as I said earlier a worrying pattern started to appear, that of only upgrading 3g sites.
I have to agree with Pedro and Steve on the backhaul point, as almost all of the 2g site upgrade plans I've seen involve using microwave links and only a few key sites having fibre to them. I'm sure it is tough to get microwave links and fibre to masts but EE seem to manage OK, and to more masts then cornerstone.
I hope for the industry Vodafone don't revert to type of the 4g roll out front as the market needs them to challenge EE and maintain some competition, they are the only network which has the budget and spectrum to do it, Three & O2 are screwed on that front,
If Vodafone do end up doing a half arsed rollout then EE will be unrivalled and I'm sure we will see costs with them rise while data allowances shrink.
Or if Vodafone continue to believe 2g is king and just enough is good enough then they could end up the blockbusters of a mobile market which splits in 2 half's..
EE premium end & a combined three/O2 at the budget end providing cheap slower bulk data and budget calls and text packages for the 50% none smartphone O2 customers..

I think Vodafone has at least acknowledged the days of 2G are pretty much over, albeit for M2M services (and Vodafone and others will point out that as things like smart meters get upgraded, they'll switch to 3G or 4G), hence the plan to switch a lot of 2G spectrum to 3G.

As such, Vodafone isn't just banking on 4G but also 3G (it has lots of spectrum after all) and it's one reason why it doesn't necessarily feel VoLTE is the be all and end all to its plans.

We all know that 2G and non-upgraded 3G on Vodafone is awful - if not totally unusable - but where the sites HAVE been upgraded, it's fair to say that it's pretty much as good as Three or EE.

Likewise for O2, where even GPRS and EDGE can work at near maximum speeds for each technology now it has the backhaul in place. Ironic that once the site has fast 3G and 4G, almost nobody will need the 2G (except, again, for some M2M applications).

Don't you work for them? (Or know someone working there?)

Vodafone cleverly don't mention sms anywhere on their WifiCalling page either.

From their eforum:


https://forum.vodafone.co.uk/t5/Appl...s/td-p/2437102

https://forum.vodafone.co.uk/t5/Appl...ighlight/false

Yep gonna email the Exec Office and try and get an official response out of them.

Good luck, hopefully it gets you somewhere (but I doubt it, they are stupid enough to believe WifiCalling is the description, and that's why it's only calling).

Thank god the EE lot are more intelligent...

So hang on.... it is technically possible.....
Oh wait, I just sent one and got a reply back from my cousin (on Vodafone ironically : ) over EE WiFi Calling.
If it's possible, then why not implement it?
This is where I have to go back to some advice I was given many moons ago.
You have to laugh or else you'd cry.
Vodafone are screwed.
They must surely be run by idiots.
I mean they have to be don't they?
These people are running a national mobile network, in the UK, not a poor country, in the 21st century.
God help us all.

You are under the misapprehension that Vodafone actually care for their customers and think that giving them an excellent service is the best way forward (while the truth is completely the opposite).

The management seem to only care about costs but what you say is completely untrue for everyone below them. But they don't make the decisions

Then they are screwed.
If the workers aren't happy you're screwed.
The poor people at the front end probably get all the shit while the management worry about money.
Not a good model in this day and age.
Customers are just numbers in the system.
Oh dear.

That is true, the poor sods on the front line take the flak but have very little power to do much, so the customer with the difficult problem almost never gets a quick resolution.

From what I have heard the Voda Retail staff have had all CS functions removed and are expected to be sales robots only, it doesn't help when customers still go into Voda retail and expect the staff to help when all they can do now is phone CS, just like the customer could do and often end up talking to a non Voda staff person in an outsourced call centre, it's absolute madness.

There is evidence that EE CS is getting better. At least on the business side.
Had a few queries the other day, one being I have aquired my Daughter a Second Hand, refurbished iPhone 5 from the Envirofone shop. A grade, and you would think it was new.
She currently has an old 3Gs which was my ex's and then mine and now it's being held together with Sellotape (glass has cracked). Still works of course, it's an iPhone.
Needed a nano SIM as the one she has is only a Standard/mini SIM.
The lovely lady in Scotland (Kiera I think) couldn't help me enough and after sorting that sorted 2 other issues, answered a slightly technical question (that I didn't expect either a male or female to be able to answer before anyone thinks that was in any way sexist, it wasn't) and wouldn't let me go until I was completely happy that everything was ok.
Reminded me of Orange CS in the mid 90s where they would put you through to an actual engineer and you could get stuff fixed (which I did once).
I gave her 5 out of 5 on all the text survey questions afterwards!!!

I've been back with EE for a year in 2 days (contract taken out 17/12/14) and haven't had any bad CS in that year.

(Technically back, I've also still got an Orange line that has been active since around 1997 but I don't really use it and it's currently on a £0 a month plan).