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Vodafone and O2 4G experience thread
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LegendaryAced
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“Heathrow was good on Vodafone for me though. Not 4G everywhere, but where I did get it I could get some nice speed test results of over 70Mbps.”

I will test Vodafone's performance at Heathrow on my return. Hopefully they will have LTE 2600 at Heathrow. It is the largest airport.
jchamier
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by LegendaryAced:
“I will test Vodafone's performance at Heathrow on my return. Hopefully they will have LTE 2600 at Heathrow. It is the largest airport.”

EE 4G at Vodafone back at Christmas 2014 with an iPhone 5s managed 85mbps. The fastest I'd seen - but that was at the gate for departure. In Terminal 2 the coverage was hit and miss, often 3G. The networks need to have good 3G in the terminals to support all those voice calls they've planned people are making. (When people are now using data, WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger etc!).
Pedro_C
20-12-2015
I've produced a new guide for New Vodafone and O2 Masts (4G): recognising towers and frequencies

Enjoy! There's quite a lot of information there even if I do say so myself.
lightspeed2398
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by Pedro_C:
“I've produced a new guide for New Vodafone and O2 Masts (4G): recognising towers and frequencies

Enjoy! There's quite a lot of information there even if I do say so myself.”

404 not found Pedro. Was looking forward to reading it as well!
Pedro_C
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by lightspeed2398:
“404 not found Pedro. Was looking forward to reading it as well!”

It's up now: New Vodafone and O2 Masts (4G): recognising towers and frequencies

I apologise if the pictures are a little slow: long phone line problems
jchamier
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by jchamier:
“EE 4G at Vodafone”

ha ha, what was that?! Replace Vodafone with Heathrow.
japaul
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by jchamier:
“EE 4G at Vodafone back at Christmas 2014 with an iPhone 5s managed 85mbps. The fastest I'd seen - but that was at the gate for departure. In Terminal 2 the coverage was hit and miss, often 3G. The networks need to have good 3G in the terminals to support all those voice calls they've planned people are making. (When people are now using data, WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger etc!).”

I was at Heathrow Terminal 2 the other day and Vodafone was very good with lots of 2600. EE didn't have any 2600 and was actually quite poor on 4G with even webpages struggling to load (don't know if it was just a bad time). EE 3G was much better than 4G.

At Gatwick I find the complete opposite. EE very good with Vodafone struggling (mostly due to 4G coverage still being quite poor there).
clewsy
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by Pedro_C:
“It's up now: New Vodafone and O2 Masts (4G): recognising towers and frequencies

I apologise if the pictures are a little slow: long phone line problems”

Why are you hosting it on your personal PC?
Pedro_C
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by clewsy:
“Why are you hosting it on your personal PC?”

I'm hosting it on a server at home, not my personal PC. As for why at home at all, professional hosting costs money, even shared VMs are more than I'd like to pay.
The website is built and tested on a Windows NT4 VM too.
voodoofish
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by d123:
“You are right, it's only available on the iPhone 6s and 6s+ and as of this week the Galaxy s6 and edge. I think I posted a link on the previous page.”

I know, I meant maybe the exec office can explain why though as I assume the implementation on iPhone 6 and 6s is the same. Presumably at first they wanted to limit take up by limiting to customers on the newer iPhone only, but at this point you'd have thought they could have expanded availability out a bit more.
d123
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by voodoofish:
“I know, I meant maybe the exec office can explain why though as I assume the implementation on iPhone 6 and 6s is the same. Presumably at first they wanted to limit take up by limiting to customers on the newer iPhone only, but at this point you'd have thought they could have expanded availability out a bit more.”

This is Vodafone you are talking about, it's not often they will do things just for the customers benefit. They are probably hoping to squeeze every last upgrade out of it that they can...
jchamier
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by Pedro_C:
“I'm hosting it on a server at home, not my personal PC. As for why at home at all, professional hosting costs money, even shared VMs are more than I'd like to pay..”

£2.50/m in maidenhead?
https://my.virtualservers.host/index...dn/?group_id=6
clewsy
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by Pedro_C:
“I'm hosting it on a server at home, not my personal PC. As for why at home at all, professional hosting costs money, even shared VMs are more than I'd like to pay.
The website is built and tested on a Windows NT4 VM too.”

I think it's great that you have gone that way with it. You must have a decent bb connection to host that and a static IP?

Any reason why you haven't got the Linux server OS route?
rasseru16
20-12-2015
Best network for voice calls only?
clewsy
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by rasseru16:
“Best network for voice calls only?”

O2 or Voda on average, but all depends where you are. For eg. In Staffs EE is shocking, old 2g sites that hardly get inside a building yet o2/VF have 4g and decent 3g now.

Other people will say quite the opposite for their area.
Pedro_C
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by clewsy:
“I think it's great that you have gone that way with it. You must have a decent bb connection to host that and a static IP?

Any reason why you haven't got the Linux server OS route?”

I set up a server 2000 active directory setup in my house when I was about 12 and I've stuck with windows server since pretty much. The plan was to linux the site, but I didn't get beyond trials.

The website is hosted in one of three places all dynamic IP:
Surrey house: 10/1 VDSL
Leeds friend: 76/20 VDSL (though very rarely here)
London friend: 50/50 FTTP (often here)

As the site grows (I've got EE mast setups and a whole load more stuff to cover), I might consider the £2.50 virtual server option (or hope that BT's database will decide I can get FTTP (the neighbours can and I'm a stone's throw from the manifold GRRR)
thebennyboy
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by Pedro_C:
“I set up a server 2000 active directory setup in my house when I was about 12 and I've stuck with windows server since pretty much. The plan was to linux the site, but I didn't get beyond trials.

The website is hosted in one of three places all dynamic IP:
Surrey house: 10/1 VDSL
Leeds friend: 76/20 VDSL (though very rarely here)
London friend: 50/50 FTTP (often here)

As the site grows (I've got EE mast setups and a whole load more stuff to cover), I might consider the £2.50 virtual server option (or hope that BT's database will decide I can get FTTP (the neighbours can and I'm a stone's throw from the manifold GRRR)”

I've got a server machine you can put your site on if you want. I use it for personal stuff like teamspeak and hosting a couple of websites for mates. Can give you an area on it if you want. It's connected on a 100 Mbps dedicated line.
Stereo Steve
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by rasseru16:
“Best network for voice calls only?”

Probably VO2 in most places as they run voice on a lower frequency. However, that may change in the next 12 months depending on equipment as EE and 3 roll out voice over IP. Potentially EE should end up better than VO2 for voice but we'll see.

Vodafone has the capacity to compete on voice and data but they are well behind on rollout and still have huge tracts of the UK with little or no data coverage at all. That should change but how soon?
jonmorris
20-12-2015
Many places have seen a huge improvement this year, but I'd be realistic and say (late) 2016 will be a real turning point.

With more upgrades, more planning issues resolved and more fibre installed, there's going to become a time when Vodafone totally transforms. With more 2G refarmed for 3G (and I assume that's DC-HSPA when upgraded too) and VoLTE, it will have a lot of capacity too.
blueacid
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by rasseru16:
“Best network for voice calls only?”

The big question in reply is "what device?". For something like a 2G only phone / carphone, Vodafone or o2 probably.

If you're looking to buy a smartphone, it could be worth waiting a bit to see what the VoLTE situation looks like in a few months
rasseru16
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by blueacid:
“The big question in reply is "what device?". For something like a 2G only phone / carphone, Vodafone or o2 probably.

If you're looking to buy a smartphone, it could be worth waiting a bit to see what the VoLTE situation looks like in a few months ”

2G only mobile with no internet capability :P it'll be for my nan
d123
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“
With more upgrades, more planning issues resolved and more fibre installed, there's going to become a time when Vodafone totally transforms. With more 2G refarmed for 3G (and I assume that's DC-HSPA when upgraded too) and VoLTE, it will have a lot of capacity too.”

Problem is, EE will probably be rolling out 5G by the time that happens
maverickjesus
20-12-2015
Originally Posted by d123:
“Problem is, EE will probably be rolling out 5G by the time that happens ”

I dunno, they are getting taken over by BT, or as they should be known, 'Asset Sweating Enterprises PLC'.
DevonBloke
20-12-2015
Yeah, then we'll have to scrap the whole thing and go back to using pagers probably.....
DevonBloke
20-12-2015
Current;y where I am O2 is king for voice. Vodafone a close second (if you can handle the totally crap audio quality). Seriously I was on EEWC the other day when my cousin called me (VF) and it sounded like she was literally using a tin can with a piece of string....
If EE enable the right 4000 odd sites with 800, look out......
If they don't then , er,.... still O2......
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