Vodafone and O2 4G experience thread

beans0ntoast · 04-01-2016, 23:39

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I mean he says he travels everywhere including the South West!!!!!
WTF??
Does he only travel to the South West bits that have 3G/4G because there really aren't that many. I mean you can't even get down here without only being on 2G a lot!
Of course if he's a Luddite who only needs voice then we are in a whole different ballpark!!!

Yep, Wavejock!

He'd be no good travelling to East Northamptonshire as the vast majority of that area (outside of densely populated areas) is 2G only too!

I hope he doesn't go to North Norfolk either... because there is a lot of Norfolk that is 2G only.. However, on a more positive note, the Ingoldisthorpe mast has gone Vod 2G/3G/4G and the Wells-Next-The-Sea mast have gone CTIL 2G/3G(900)/4G.

You can tell whether a CTIL mast is 3G900 or 3G2100 because you can go to O2's checker and click the link that says about phones that don't work on 3G900. It will then show the 3G2100 coverage.

edit: Found another sticky situation for Vod (though O2 is ok), and that is Fakenham, Norfolk. I'd say that is quite a densely populated area. EE/MBNL fine coverage on 2100. O2's checker says good for 3G 22100. Vodafone? No coverage!
It's like a re-run of Totnes again!

DevonBloke · 05-01-2016, 00:14

I realised tonight that I now have continuous 4G from Totnes to home (well except the last 300 yards). That means I now have the same from Torquay to home which is about 12 miles. (since the new mast came on before Christmas)
My Son got an iPod touch (don't I know it : ) for Christmas and my Nephew had sent him some videos over iMessage.
He hooked up to my hotspot and watched them all the way home over 4G.
Not sure why I'm enthusing about that too much since he could have done that over 3G as well.
I guess it's because the entire journey (pretty much) would have been EDGE then GPRS on Vodafone.
I hope Gigabit is right and they pull their finger out soon.
Would be nice to have some options one day.

jonmorris · 05-01-2016, 01:07

I'm now finding it hard to ever go down to 2G on Vodafone in my daily travels, and when I'm on 3G the speeds are often in excess of 10Mbps which is amazing given it wasn't that long ago that 3G could still mean speeds of 0.05Mbps or even less.

In London, I was getting speeds in the 90s and even outside over 60, on 4G, comparing well with EE and even beating EE at times.

I'm really looking forward to seeing how the networks compare by the end of the year. Vodafone must be starting to use its 2600 in more and more places now and it's moving a big difference.

Skippy2005 · 05-01-2016, 08:10

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Originally Posted by beans0ntoast

He'd be no good travelling to East Northamptonshire as the vast majority of that area (outside of densely populated areas) is 2G only too!

I hope he doesn't go to North Norfolk either... because there is a lot of Norfolk that is 2G only.. However, on a more positive note, the Ingoldisthorpe mast has gone Vod 2G/3G/4G and the Wells-Next-The-Sea mast have gone CTIL 2G/3G(900)/4G.

You can tell whether a CTIL mast is 3G900 or 3G2100 because you can go to O2's checker and click the link that says about phones that don't work on 3G900. It will then show the 3G2100 coverage.

edit: Found another sticky situation for Vod (though O2 is ok), and that is Fakenham, Norfolk. I'd say that is quite a densely populated area. EE/MBNL fine coverage on 2100. O2's checker says good for 3G 22100. Vodafone? No coverage!
It's like a re-run of Totnes again!

I don't think that's entirely correct as I believe Vodafone is rolling out a nationwide 3G2100 network as well as 3G900, where as o2 are using 3G900 in less built up areas, that's what I was led to believe, I'd be happy for someone to correct me.

moox · 05-01-2016, 10:22

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Originally Posted by DevonBloke

I mean he says he travels everywhere including the South West!!!!!
WTF??
Does he only travel to the South West bits that have 3G/4G because there really aren't that many. I mean you can't even get down here without only being on 2G a lot!
Of course if he's a Luddite who only needs voice then we are in a whole different ballpark!!!

Yep, Wavejock!

He certainly doesn't travel to my bit of the SW either. Maybe he means Bristol and Bath which are probably brimming with high quality Vodafone 4G out of every mast and tower? He must never use his phone in the car or on the train either

jonmorris · 05-01-2016, 10:28

I am not sure the exact plans, other than Vodafone saying they'll be refarming a lot of 2G 900 for 3G, and expecting that this will mean VoLTE isn't as important as it will be elsewhere. Presumably they hope to turn up 800 coverage a bit more, and have most people fall back to 3G for voice as they would today (or 2G).

GreenLantern · 05-01-2016, 12:24

Just on the train from Paddington to Bristol or Bath, half the journey is 2G/No Signal on Vodafone let alone the parts where the coverage might be considered useable.

Then again I'm aware the old Intercity 125s don't do much for signal penetration.

Having said that EE seem to manage a useable(ish) 3G connection for most of the journey - and again on the Virgin service on the WCML - can't say I use the east coast enough to comment on that one.

moox · 05-01-2016, 12:48

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Originally Posted by GreenLantern

Just on the train from Paddington to Bristol or Bath, half the journey is 2G/No Signal on Vodafone let alone the parts where the coverage might be considered useable.

Then again I'm aware the old Intercity 125s don't do much for signal penetration.

Having said that EE seem to manage a useable(ish) 3G connection for most of the journey - and again on the Virgin service on the WCML - can't say I use the east coast enough to comment on that one.

The HSTs/IC125 are better than most trains in my opinion. If there's a signal outside it's going to be almost as good inside.

It's the newer trains that are literal faraday cages - such as the Voyagers that CrossCountry/Virgin use.

MBNL has generally good coverage of both main lines to the SW IMO.

jonmorris · 05-01-2016, 13:17

Older trains are better for signal as they won't have solar reflecting film to aid the HVAC - which restricts signals.

Those trains are getting Wi-Fi now so that should help a bit.

The new trains will likely be like other modern trains. I wonder how the similar designed Class 395 trains on Southeastern are for phone signal? Might give a clue.

Gigabit · 05-01-2016, 13:18

South West Trains trains are terrible for signal.

jonmorris · 05-01-2016, 13:35

Same reason. Film to reduce internal temperatures in the summer. Again, on the newer trains. Older ones should be fine as they're mostly made of cardboard!

Gigabit · 05-01-2016, 15:19

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Originally Posted by jonmorris

Same reason. Film to reduce internal temperatures in the summer. Again, on the newer trains. Older ones should be fine as they're mostly made of cardboard!

I can't remember the oldest trains that they use but I haven't been on one in the last 5 years that has been good for signal.

beans0ntoast · 05-01-2016, 18:21

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Originally Posted by Skippy2005

I don't think that's entirely correct as I believe Vodafone is rolling out a nationwide 3G2100 network as well as 3G900, where as o2 are using 3G900 in less built up areas, that's what I was led to believe, I'd be happy for someone to correct me.

I didn't know that, but I know for certain that some masts are 3G900 only, i.e. no 3G2100.

For example, an old VOD mast in Woodhall Spa (Lincs) was upgraded from 2G900 to 2G900, 3G900, 4G800. If you look at the top right photo on this page: http://pedroc.co.uk/recognising_voda..._4G_setups.htm you'll see the long panels in use on another mast. Those same long panels were used on the Woodhall Spa mast.

I think that in rural areas, CTIL are going for more coverage via 3G900. If CTIL roll out nationwide 3G900 (on virtually every mast), they could refarm 2G900 to 3G900 to help with capacity. Most phones nowadays have 3G900 capability.

jaffboy151 · 05-01-2016, 18:39

Anyone have a idea how much of 2g 900mhz Vodafone plan to refarm for 3g?
Am I correct in thinking there only using 5mhz at the moment?

Skippy2005 · 05-01-2016, 18:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaffboy151

Anyone have a idea how much of 2g 900mhz Vodafone plan to refarm for 3g?
Am I correct in thinking there only using 5mhz at the moment?

Currently I think it's 5mhz MIMO to increase the capacity, 2x10 would be nice turned up then 800 can match.

I can easily get 10mb from my mast on 900, at any time of day sometimes a little more.

Pedro_C · 05-01-2016, 20:51

Vodafone seem to like the clamp on new top shrouded antennas for replica telegraph poles.

jchamier · 05-01-2016, 20:58

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Originally Posted by Pedro_C

Vodafone seem to like the clamp on new top shrouded antennas for replica telegraph poles.

Spoils the telegraph pole look with that. A similar monopole near me has a tiny whip on top which I thought to start with could be a lightning conductor. I think its O2's.

jaffboy151 · 05-01-2016, 22:30

This is the planned design for a replica telegraph pole mast close to me, https://www.dropbox.com/s/k3irazh0ew...40191.pdf?dl=0
Should look quite smart.much nicer then those fudged top hat ones in Pedro's pictures. Here it is in its present state (almost) https://www.dropbox.com/s/q7hych84sp...09-17.png?dl=0
It now has an additional Huawei cabinet in place and I'm 80% sure the existing mast is somehow 4G'd.

clewsy · 05-01-2016, 22:37

I thought they had been turned down in Stone? They come back in again?

Pedro_C · 05-01-2016, 22:47

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Originally Posted by jaffboy151

This is the planned design for a replica telegraph pole mast close to me, https://www.dropbox.com/s/k3irazh0ew...40191.pdf?dl=0
Should look quite smart.much nicer then those fudged top hat ones in Pedro's pictures. Here it is in its present state (almost) https://www.dropbox.com/s/q7hych84sp...09-17.png?dl=0
It now has an additional Huawei cabinet in place and I'm 80% sure the existing mast is somehow 4G'd.

That was planned for the ones in the top pictures. Probably decided they no longer needed the future expansion. Unless the fudged hat is bigger than I thought. Perspective can do weird things...

jaffboy151 · 06-01-2016, 00:13

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Originally Posted by clewsy

I thought they had been turned down in Stone? They come back in again?

The mast in the pictures & plans is near Trentham Gardens clewsy, though just noticed tonight Vodafone has reapplied for planning permission for one of the masts in Stone, on the Litchfield Road,
Sensibly they've decided to go with the taller replica telegraph pole this time as the green Street pole was chucked out.
I'm sure it will still get heeps if objections if not for the height increase then for the extra cabinet, whilst moaning about mobile reception on the local got I'm... but that's Stone for you, wonder if Bill Cash MP will personally object this time..

clewsy · 06-01-2016, 07:14

I thought that looked like Trentham, however mobile coverage at the village isn't too good at all. Your right about Stone though, however these people need to weigh up what they want from their mobile phones.

M1kos · 06-01-2016, 08:58

Bromley council near me have turned down so many new site monopoles I've lost count now vo2 are trying again at many of the same sites with those top hat type silly 10m masts with only one big cabinet that won't even clear the roofs of the houses! Why are some councils just so anti mast

M1kos · 06-01-2016, 09:03

Here's the one in Bexleyheath due to go live next week https://www.dropbox.com/s/0hie0ijtda..._0237.JPG?dl=0

InfamousTeal · 06-01-2016, 21:05

This is a good read.

Spoke to a guy on the vodafone live chat today to ask if he knew any dates for when 4G would be coming. He said in 4 days time, which I assume is not correct, there's been no work done to the mast and none planned, but we'll see.

My main point, he didn't know what a mast was. Here's some of our conversation:

Me: and do you know where that mast will be exactly?
Shubham: I didn't get you , Can you please elaborate
James: where is the new 4G mast?
Shubham: Mast,???? What do you mean by Mast ?
James: the thing that provides signal
James: the cell tower
Shubham: Oh, James, We will be Installing that on this Sunday
James: yes, i know. where is it though?
Shubham: James, I am not sure about the location as I am from offshore Webchat team and that will be decided by our technical team and they have all the information regarding it

So that's reassuring. I then tested to see if he knew Northern Ireland was part of the UK, he didn't, and told me I'd be roaming and it'd cost me extra, which is entirely wrong.

Then, I asked him to check a postcode for me for 4G plans, (the third one I'd asked him to check, but he seemed to be doing them quickly and easily) and he replied with this rather out of nowhere response:

Shubham: James, I'd like to inform you that 4G services are not a Joke, it takes a lot of investment and time to make the 4 G signals available

What is he even talking about?

had a good giggle at some of his answers

04-01-2016, 23:39	#2101
beans0ntoast Inactive Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 932	Quote: Originally Posted by DevonBloke I mean he says he travels everywhere including the South West!!!!! WTF?? Does he only travel to the South West bits that have 3G/4G because there really aren't that many. I mean you can't even get down here without only being on 2G a lot! Of course if he's a Luddite who only needs voice then we are in a whole different ballpark!!! Yep, Wavejock! He'd be no good travelling to East Northamptonshire as the vast majority of that area (outside of densely populated areas) is 2G only too! I hope he doesn't go to North Norfolk either... because there is a lot of Norfolk that is 2G only.. However, on a more positive note, the Ingoldisthorpe mast has gone Vod 2G/3G/4G and the Wells-Next-The-Sea mast have gone CTIL 2G/3G(900)/4G. You can tell whether a CTIL mast is 3G900 or 3G2100 because you can go to O2's checker and click the link that says about phones that don't work on 3G900. It will then show the 3G2100 coverage. edit: Found another sticky situation for Vod (though O2 is ok), and that is Fakenham, Norfolk. I'd say that is quite a densely populated area. EE/MBNL fine coverage on 2100. O2's checker says good for 3G 22100. Vodafone? No coverage! It's like a re-run of Totnes again!

05-01-2016, 00:14	#2102
DevonBloke Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Totnes, Devon Posts: 6,694	I realised tonight that I now have continuous 4G from Totnes to home (well except the last 300 yards). That means I now have the same from Torquay to home which is about 12 miles. (since the new mast came on before Christmas) My Son got an iPod touch (don't I know it : ) for Christmas and my Nephew had sent him some videos over iMessage. He hooked up to my hotspot and watched them all the way home over 4G. Not sure why I'm enthusing about that too much since he could have done that over 3G as well. I guess it's because the entire journey (pretty much) would have been EDGE then GPRS on Vodafone. I hope Gigabit is right and they pull their finger out soon. Would be nice to have some options one day.

05-01-2016, 01:07	#2103
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	I'm now finding it hard to ever go down to 2G on Vodafone in my daily travels, and when I'm on 3G the speeds are often in excess of 10Mbps which is amazing given it wasn't that long ago that 3G could still mean speeds of 0.05Mbps or even less. In London, I was getting speeds in the 90s and even outside over 60, on 4G, comparing well with EE and even beating EE at times. I'm really looking forward to seeing how the networks compare by the end of the year. Vodafone must be starting to use its 2600 in more and more places now and it's moving a big difference.

05-01-2016, 08:10	#2104
Skippy2005 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 731	Quote: Originally Posted by beans0ntoast He'd be no good travelling to East Northamptonshire as the vast majority of that area (outside of densely populated areas) is 2G only too! I hope he doesn't go to North Norfolk either... because there is a lot of Norfolk that is 2G only.. However, on a more positive note, the Ingoldisthorpe mast has gone Vod 2G/3G/4G and the Wells-Next-The-Sea mast have gone CTIL 2G/3G(900)/4G. You can tell whether a CTIL mast is 3G900 or 3G2100 because you can go to O2's checker and click the link that says about phones that don't work on 3G900. It will then show the 3G2100 coverage. edit: Found another sticky situation for Vod (though O2 is ok), and that is Fakenham, Norfolk. I'd say that is quite a densely populated area. EE/MBNL fine coverage on 2100. O2's checker says good for 3G 22100. Vodafone? No coverage! It's like a re-run of Totnes again! I don't think that's entirely correct as I believe Vodafone is rolling out a nationwide 3G2100 network as well as 3G900, where as o2 are using 3G900 in less built up areas, that's what I was led to believe, I'd be happy for someone to correct me.

05-01-2016, 10:22	#2105
moox Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 14,645	Quote: Originally Posted by DevonBloke I mean he says he travels everywhere including the South West!!!!! WTF?? Does he only travel to the South West bits that have 3G/4G because there really aren't that many. I mean you can't even get down here without only being on 2G a lot! Of course if he's a Luddite who only needs voice then we are in a whole different ballpark!!! Yep, Wavejock! He certainly doesn't travel to my bit of the SW either. Maybe he means Bristol and Bath which are probably brimming with high quality Vodafone 4G out of every mast and tower? He must never use his phone in the car or on the train either

05-01-2016, 10:28	#2106
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	I am not sure the exact plans, other than Vodafone saying they'll be refarming a lot of 2G 900 for 3G, and expecting that this will mean VoLTE isn't as important as it will be elsewhere. Presumably they hope to turn up 800 coverage a bit more, and have most people fall back to 3G for voice as they would today (or 2G).

05-01-2016, 12:24	#2107
GreenLantern Inactive Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: London, UK Posts: 178	Just on the train from Paddington to Bristol or Bath, half the journey is 2G/No Signal on Vodafone let alone the parts where the coverage might be considered useable. Then again I'm aware the old Intercity 125s don't do much for signal penetration. Having said that EE seem to manage a useable(ish) 3G connection for most of the journey - and again on the Virgin service on the WCML - can't say I use the east coast enough to comment on that one.

05-01-2016, 12:48	#2108
moox Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 14,645	Quote: Originally Posted by GreenLantern Just on the train from Paddington to Bristol or Bath, half the journey is 2G/No Signal on Vodafone let alone the parts where the coverage might be considered useable. Then again I'm aware the old Intercity 125s don't do much for signal penetration. Having said that EE seem to manage a useable(ish) 3G connection for most of the journey - and again on the Virgin service on the WCML - can't say I use the east coast enough to comment on that one. The HSTs/IC125 are better than most trains in my opinion. If there's a signal outside it's going to be almost as good inside. It's the newer trains that are literal faraday cages - such as the Voyagers that CrossCountry/Virgin use. MBNL has generally good coverage of both main lines to the SW IMO.

05-01-2016, 13:17	#2109
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Older trains are better for signal as they won't have solar reflecting film to aid the HVAC - which restricts signals. Those trains are getting Wi-Fi now so that should help a bit. The new trains will likely be like other modern trains. I wonder how the similar designed Class 395 trains on Southeastern are for phone signal? Might give a clue.

05-01-2016, 13:18	#2110
Gigabit Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,887	South West Trains trains are terrible for signal.

05-01-2016, 13:35	#2111
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Same reason. Film to reduce internal temperatures in the summer. Again, on the newer trains. Older ones should be fine as they're mostly made of cardboard!

05-01-2016, 15:19	#2112
Gigabit Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,887	Quote: Originally Posted by jonmorris Same reason. Film to reduce internal temperatures in the summer. Again, on the newer trains. Older ones should be fine as they're mostly made of cardboard! I can't remember the oldest trains that they use but I haven't been on one in the last 5 years that has been good for signal.

05-01-2016, 18:21	#2113
beans0ntoast Inactive Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 932	Quote: Originally Posted by Skippy2005 I don't think that's entirely correct as I believe Vodafone is rolling out a nationwide 3G2100 network as well as 3G900, where as o2 are using 3G900 in less built up areas, that's what I was led to believe, I'd be happy for someone to correct me. I didn't know that, but I know for certain that some masts are 3G900 only, i.e. no 3G2100. For example, an old VOD mast in Woodhall Spa (Lincs) was upgraded from 2G900 to 2G900, 3G900, 4G800. If you look at the top right photo on this page: http://pedroc.co.uk/recognising_voda..._4G_setups.htm you'll see the long panels in use on another mast. Those same long panels were used on the Woodhall Spa mast. I think that in rural areas, CTIL are going for more coverage via 3G900. If CTIL roll out nationwide 3G900 (on virtually every mast), they could refarm 2G900 to 3G900 to help with capacity. Most phones nowadays have 3G900 capability.

05-01-2016, 18:39	#2114
jaffboy151 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Woore, Cheshire/Shropshire Posts: 1,675	Anyone have a idea how much of 2g 900mhz Vodafone plan to refarm for 3g? Am I correct in thinking there only using 5mhz at the moment?

05-01-2016, 18:44	#2115
Skippy2005 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 731	Quote: Originally Posted by jaffboy151 Anyone have a idea how much of 2g 900mhz Vodafone plan to refarm for 3g? Am I correct in thinking there only using 5mhz at the moment? Currently I think it's 5mhz MIMO to increase the capacity, 2x10 would be nice turned up then 800 can match. I can easily get 10mb from my mast on 900, at any time of day sometimes a little more.

05-01-2016, 20:51	#2116
Pedro_C Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Surrey, UK Posts: 660	Vodafone seem to like the clamp on new top shrouded antennas for replica telegraph poles.

05-01-2016, 20:58	#2117
jchamier Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: This forum Posts: 3,392	Quote: Originally Posted by Pedro_C Vodafone seem to like the clamp on new top shrouded antennas for replica telegraph poles. Spoils the telegraph pole look with that. A similar monopole near me has a tiny whip on top which I thought to start with could be a lightning conductor. I think its O2's.

05-01-2016, 22:30	#2118
jaffboy151 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Woore, Cheshire/Shropshire Posts: 1,675	This is the planned design for a replica telegraph pole mast close to me, https://www.dropbox.com/s/k3irazh0ew...40191.pdf?dl=0 Should look quite smart.much nicer then those fudged top hat ones in Pedro's pictures. Here it is in its present state (almost) https://www.dropbox.com/s/q7hych84sp...09-17.png?dl=0 It now has an additional Huawei cabinet in place and I'm 80% sure the existing mast is somehow 4G'd.

05-01-2016, 22:37	#2119
clewsy Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Midlands Posts: 2,860	I thought they had been turned down in Stone? They come back in again?

05-01-2016, 22:47	#2120
Pedro_C Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Surrey, UK Posts: 660	Quote: Originally Posted by jaffboy151 This is the planned design for a replica telegraph pole mast close to me, https://www.dropbox.com/s/k3irazh0ew...40191.pdf?dl=0 Should look quite smart.much nicer then those fudged top hat ones in Pedro's pictures. Here it is in its present state (almost) https://www.dropbox.com/s/q7hych84sp...09-17.png?dl=0 It now has an additional Huawei cabinet in place and I'm 80% sure the existing mast is somehow 4G'd. That was planned for the ones in the top pictures. Probably decided they no longer needed the future expansion. Unless the fudged hat is bigger than I thought. Perspective can do weird things...

06-01-2016, 00:13	#2121
jaffboy151 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Woore, Cheshire/Shropshire Posts: 1,675	Quote: Originally Posted by clewsy I thought they had been turned down in Stone? They come back in again? The mast in the pictures & plans is near Trentham Gardens clewsy, though just noticed tonight Vodafone has reapplied for planning permission for one of the masts in Stone, on the Litchfield Road, Sensibly they've decided to go with the taller replica telegraph pole this time as the green Street pole was chucked out. I'm sure it will still get heeps if objections if not for the height increase then for the extra cabinet, whilst moaning about mobile reception on the local got I'm... but that's Stone for you, wonder if Bill Cash MP will personally object this time..

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06-01-2016, 07:14	#2122
clewsy Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Midlands Posts: 2,860	I thought that looked like Trentham, however mobile coverage at the village isn't too good at all. Your right about Stone though, however these people need to weigh up what they want from their mobile phones.

06-01-2016, 08:58	#2123
M1kos Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 499	Bromley council near me have turned down so many new site monopoles I've lost count now vo2 are trying again at many of the same sites with those top hat type silly 10m masts with only one big cabinet that won't even clear the roofs of the houses! Why are some councils just so anti mast

06-01-2016, 09:03	#2124
M1kos Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 499	Here's the one in Bexleyheath due to go live next week https://www.dropbox.com/s/0hie0ijtda..._0237.JPG?dl=0

06-01-2016, 21:05	#2125
InfamousTeal Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 303	This is a good read. Spoke to a guy on the vodafone live chat today to ask if he knew any dates for when 4G would be coming. He said in 4 days time, which I assume is not correct, there's been no work done to the mast and none planned, but we'll see. My main point, he didn't know what a mast was. Here's some of our conversation: Me: and do you know where that mast will be exactly? Shubham: I didn't get you , Can you please elaborate James: where is the new 4G mast? Shubham: Mast,???? What do you mean by Mast ? James: the thing that provides signal James: the cell tower Shubham: Oh, James, We will be Installing that on this Sunday James: yes, i know. where is it though? Shubham: James, I am not sure about the location as I am from offshore Webchat team and that will be decided by our technical team and they have all the information regarding it So that's reassuring. I then tested to see if he knew Northern Ireland was part of the UK, he didn't, and told me I'd be roaming and it'd cost me extra, which is entirely wrong. Then, I asked him to check a postcode for me for 4G plans, (the third one I'd asked him to check, but he seemed to be doing them quickly and easily) and he replied with this rather out of nowhere response: Shubham: James, I'd like to inform you that 4G services are not a Joke, it takes a lot of investment and time to make the 4 G signals available What is he even talking about? had a good giggle at some of his answers