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Vodafone and O2 4G experience thread
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Gigabit
06-01-2016
I am afraid mast plans are not told to the general public, by Vodafone.
InfamousTeal
06-01-2016
Originally Posted by Gigabit:
“I am afraid mast plans are not told to the general public, by Vodafone.”

So you reckon his 10th of January was made up?
d123
06-01-2016
Originally Posted by Gigabit:
“I am afraid mast plans are not told to the general public, by Vodafone.”

I don't think Vodafone even tell their network engineers .
jonmorris
06-01-2016
I hope you got a copy of the chat emailed to you after!
Stereo Steve
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by M1kos:
“Here's the one in Bexleyheath due to go live next week https://www.dropbox.com/s/0hie0ijtda..._0237.JPG?dl=0”

Enjoying your twitter feed. Lot's going on in Cornwall I see. Any ideas on the South Hams? Totnes? Did they get back to you on that? They have some big masts down here which would cover a hell of a lot of ground if they were to put them first eg. Beacon Hill.

EE need some proper competition in rural areas to drive prices down. I think at the mo only VOD can offer it.
drues1986
07-01-2016
vodafone fastest i experienced 16.66 Mbps

O2 fastest i experience 18.90 Mbps
jaffboy151
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by Stereo Steve:
“Enjoying your twitter feed. Lot's going on in Cornwall I see. Any ideas on the South Hams? Totnes? Did they get back to you on that? They have some big masts down here which would cover a hell of a lot of ground if they were to put them first eg. Beacon Hill.

EE need some proper competition in rural areas to drive prices down. I think at the mo only VOD can offer it.”

If they roll 4g out in towns and rural areas where you are Steve as they have around these parts then they tend to do the smaller masts first missing out the latter ones, can't work out if it's a deliberate strategy or just backhaul delays, they've activated several smaller sites around some towns here when the one main site could cover it all and then some, maybe it's because it would get swamped.
Nearest 4g mast to me peaks out in the high 40's, the one that serves me at home peak out at 20 but that is over 8 miles away in Crewe.
Fastest Vodafone speed I've seen was in manchester over Christmas, Mid to high 60s
Struggled somewhat over new year with speeds down sub 2meg.
Hope they start lighting up some rural masts early on this year, EE need some competition that's for sure
camer_000
07-01-2016
Before i switched to Voda, i got a 50GB sim in the christmas offer to test them out to see if it was better than O2 (which it was) and to see if it was better than 3 (which overall, mainly down it having better signal indoors, it was). Here are some speedtests i have gathered over the time (a few weeks):

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resi...thint=album%2c
M1kos
07-01-2016
This was voda today in se London off 2600/800 https://www.dropbox.com/s/hzrztkxy3u...13-02.png?dl=0
lightspeed2398
07-01-2016
Originally Posted by M1kos:
“This was voda today in se London off 2600/800 https://www.dropbox.com/s/hzrztkxy3u...13-02.png?dl=0”

That's a bloody good speed. Has Vodafone's 2600 rollout progressed anymore since they announced it a year and a bit ago?
M1kos
07-01-2016
To find out if ya local mast is gonna be upgraded firstly look on your local authority planning website search for it using keywords Antennas cabinets or telecom etc look regularly on Voda planned maintenance anything over two or three days could be one. If it's a monopole look on roadworks.org finally keep a look out on o2 website too as they announce on their status page if 4G work is going on. Hope this helps
M1kos
07-01-2016
2600 now available in suburban London about 10 miles from charing cross even on at asite in Dartford Kent (although not very fast!)
Orbitalzone
08-01-2016
I was at Heathrow today near Harmondsworth on the Bath Road and got 31mbps / 9.95mbps on Voda 4G
M1kos
08-01-2016
I've done a few speed tests today all around 80mbps from 4G+ sites in Woolwich and Charlton
Orbitalzone
08-01-2016
I was testing my work provided Voda SIM, do they have double speed options like EE and would my Moto X Play phone be capable of higher 4G speeds?
DevonBloke
08-01-2016
Originally Posted by Orbitalzone:
“I was testing my work provided Voda SIM, do they have double speed options like EE and would my Moto X Play phone be capable of higher 4G speeds?”

Well I think they are using the full 20Mhz of 2600 which is what EE call double speed.
Also the X play has a Cat 6 modem so yes you can use a full 20Mhz LTE carrier and also you can use carrier aggregation (requires CAT 6) to aggregate 800 and 2600 together.

There are two things here though. "Double speed" is just an EE buzz word to mean the full 20Mhz speeds as opposed to being capped at (effectively) 5/10Mhz "single" speed.
4G+ or CA is the ability to combine 2, 3 or more carriers together to increase not only speed but also network efficiency.
EE are currently aggregating 20Mhz of 1800 and 20Mhz of 2600 to pruduce some silly speeds.
Vodafone aggregate their 10Mhz or 800 with 20Mhz of 2600 to produce pretty good speeds.
Your phone can do both these things.
jonmorris
08-01-2016
But until EE lifts the 150Mbps cap, Vodafone will manage better speed test results at times.

EE is now testing 600Mbps in the field, which is crazy fast - and 4G still has a long way to go, at least until the networks reach a point where they're happy and things slow down for a bit.
DevonBloke
08-01-2016
True, true, forgot about the cap.
Well done that man!
jchamier
08-01-2016
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“But until EE lifts the 150Mbps cap, Vodafone will manage better speed test results at times.”

For those people hitting the cap, like the poster at 142mbps.

Maybe the reason for the cap is to see how many people reach it?

Quote:
“EE is now testing 600Mbps in the field, which is crazy fast - and 4G still has a long way to go, at least until the networks reach a point where they're happy and things slow down for a bit.”

I would assume that this is planning for the increasing explosion in data usage, essentially we will see insane speeds for a while, but actually it will average out into sensible speeds for more people concurrently.
jonmorris
08-01-2016
Once I can stream multiple UHD videos, I think I might need a bit more than a 10GB plan on SIM only.
DevonBloke
08-01-2016
Nobody is streaming multiple UHD videos on 4G.
Not going to happen. That's why the allowances are so tight.
Speeds might be fast but that's because it's normally only you on it at the time hitting it hard.
Capacity is just not there for that on 4G. Not for a lot of users anyway.
That ain't happening until they figure out how to get 200 bits per hertz and that might require magic or something.
japaul
08-01-2016
But it could be done on 4G with eMBMS (multicast).
lightspeed2398
08-01-2016
Originally Posted by DevonBloke:
“Nobody is streaming multiple UHD videos on 4G.
Not going to happen. That's why the allowances are so tight.
Speeds might be fast but that's because it's normally only you on it at the time hitting it hard.
Capacity is just not there for that on 4G. Not for a lot of users anyway.
That ain't happening until they figure out how to get 200 bits per hertz and that might require magic or something.”

LTE Broadcast might make that a possibility?
DevonBloke
08-01-2016
Originally Posted by japaul:
“But it could be done on 4G with eMBMS (multicast).”

Originally Posted by lightspeed2398:
“LTE Broadcast might make that a possibility?”

This is very true chaps. Had totally forgotten about that even though EE filled Wembley with it and said how bloody great it was.
ja - I'm just glad you didn't disagree with my opinion that multiple standard LTE connections would not be up to it.
japaul
08-01-2016
Don't have to agree with you to like or respect you
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