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#2326 |
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Are you referring to me? No I'm not a champion just stating how it is here, I live in the Cotswold area of outstanding natural beauty no mast in this area is built near population because of the perceived health risk at the time, therefore coverage is poor. The TV relay is 4 miles away which is 2G only, no dish or lattice tower construction are allowed and have always been refused permission, telegraph pole style allowed and that's it. The city of Gloucester is 7 miles away and is behind the Cotswold hills which completely block out everything.
I believe that Gigabit is referring to some nutter on the Vod forums who spouts crap and pretends to speak for them..... I least I hope that's what he meant.. : ) |
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#2327 |
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Oh dear, you are just up the road from me (well relative to Glasgow anyway : ) and your VO2 coverage looks only marginally better than mine. "No 4G planned"
![]() I don't think they like us. The cross is where I live. The boundary is roughly where I work (self employed IT guy). http://s11.postimg.org/3p8xfumbn/screenshot_64.png 3G is a joke and I do wish ofcom would do something about it. Here it is.... oh wait, the red is actually 2G so should be white! Idiots. http://s11.postimg.org/640t0a2kj/screenshot_62.png |
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#2328 |
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Hahahaha. No no no...
I believe that Gigabit is referring to some nutter on the Vod forums who spouts crap and pretends to speak for them..... I least I hope that's what he meant.. : )
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#2329 |
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There you are Devon! You missed the arguments!
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Sorry, was it good? I was busy at the time. Trying to do 19 things at once as you do!
![]() Apparently EE is to make coverage much better in my area this year - now the long wait. Perhaps I should rename my username as DevonMK2? |
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#2331 |
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Not too much my friend haha
![]() Apparently EE is to make coverage much better in my area this year - now the long wait. Perhaps I should rename my username as DevonMK2? ![]() Will be interesting to see then... |
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#2332 |
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I have seen a 4G phone at -120dBm but still with an ASU of over 15, giving a very decent throughput.
Coming from an age when you messed around with cb radio and walkitalkies as a kid I'm still amazed something so small like my phone, sat downstairs in the middle of my house can communicate with a mast 8-10 miles away. Quote:
Basically the country is split down the middle - Telefonica have the east, Scotland and Northern Ireland, while Vodafone have the west up to and including Glasgow and wales. In each area the relevant company has full control of the rollout of 2G 3G and 4G networks and has sole access to all of O2 and Vodafone's sites in that area. They can choose which sites they continue to use for both networks and which to decommission in order to reach the required coverage levels.
I hope that helps a bit - a good analogy is to think that Vodafone have a network in the West that O2 has access to and O2 has a network in the east that Vodafone has access to. Within the M25 is slightly different - each operator continues to manage their own 2G and 3G networks with the 4G being overlaid by Telefonica north of the Thames and Vodafone the south. Quote:
Oh dear, you are just up the road from me (well relative to Glasgow anyway : ) and your VO2 coverage looks only marginally better than mine. "No 4G planned"
![]() I don't think they like us. The cross is where I live. The boundary is roughly where I work (self employed IT guy). http://s11.postimg.org/3p8xfumbn/screenshot_64.png 3G is a joke and I do wish ofcom would do something about it. Here it is.... oh wait, the red is actually 2G so should be white! Idiots. http://s11.postimg.org/640t0a2kj/screenshot_62.png |
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#2333 |
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If Vodafone wants to be a serious player in the future they're going to have to add data to areas like these and simular ones here and across the country.
There is about to be a technology explosion and I think so far the only network who have seen it coming is EE. I think it's possible that EE will be a victim of their own success in that everyone will migrate to them causing major capacity issues. In less than 10 years automated cars will be using cellular to communicate with each other. It won't be just us doing YT videos, it'll be Tesla owners doing EV OS updates while parked in Tesco. I just hope they can keep the upgrades going to keep up. |
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If Vodafone want to even exist in the near future they better get data everywhere and quick.
There is about to be a technology explosion and I think so far the only network who have seen it coming is EE. I think it's possible that EE will be a victim of their own success in that everyone will migrate to them causing major capacity issues. In less than 10 years automated cars will be using cellular to communicate with each other. It won't be just us doing YT videos, it'll be Tesla owners doing EV OS updates while parked in Tesco. I just hope they can keep the upgrades going to keep up. But your right about Vodafone and O2, even your average person isn't going to except having no data access over wide areas soon, I already consider 2g as virtually no service and like emergency backup so to speak. Even if Vodafone roll out 800mhz 4g everywhere though, it's going to struggle soon enough with capacity due to the legacy of having fewer masts serving larger areas, Vodafone will be fine with 2600mhz in larger towns and cities, but many areas where they've traditionally had 1 big mast and maybe 1 smaller mast to cover a town it will soon get swamped, legacy wise they could do with some 700mhz to add some depth to the 800mhz coverage here, at least until they can start refarming bands they use for 3g I do think in the next 18/24 months if other networks haven't started to challenge EE, EE them selves could struggle as everyone will migrate to them for data, in rural tests of any signal whatsoever around here they already beat Vodafone coverage wise with most of it 3g & 4g and just a little 2g still hanging on. All this talk of data though does make me think of three and how they seem to have stuffed a grenade in there mouth and shot themselves in both legs at the same time so to speak. They pushed along for years never making any money, leading the way with data whilst other networks looked at them and laughed, then soon as it takes off, while there still way in the lead, one small push for 4g licences and rollout (small compared to the cost of 3g anyways) but no, from then on they seemed to have lurched from one bad decision to the next, it's hard to take them seriously now. |
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Vodafone and O2 have got the mast back fully after a week long outage that neither of them seemed to recognize on their status checkers! I reported the fault on O2's checker 3 times (voice, data, SMS) and got others to do so and also posted on the VF forum so if they didn't know about it from their systems, they certainly did from me.
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#2336 |
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South east Wales Monmouthshire county Quote:
What area are you in? Just wondering if it's in the Tef of VF part of the country
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#2337 |
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Got some good vodafone speeds at Birmingham airport today. Also had 3G/4G all the way there via the M42, which was pretty good as welll.
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#2338 |
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im in london and find vodafone apart from their awful customer service to be a better network than 3..i get internet 4g nearly everywhere and at fast speeds. I got 4 bars in my house and with 3 there were time i had no signal what so ever.
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#2339 |
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Got some good vodafone speeds at Birmingham airport today. Also had 3G/4G all the way there via the M42, which was pretty good as welll.
http://imgur.com/a/yfSEu |
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#2340 |
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Shropshire seems to be getting special attention from Vodafone over the next few weeks with at least 2 more masts getting upgraded in Telford and at least 3 masts in Shrewsbury, with yet more work laying ducting and fibre around the tesco extra on featherbed Lane and Harlescott Road, though this seems to have been going on for months now.
Not sure if they're heading towards the O2 mast up the road or the big Vodafone mast nearby around the battlefield Park n ride.. What ever happens, coverage should be boosted in both areas come the middle of Feb. |
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#2341 |
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South Hams. Nothing. See here:
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/life/p...cle4379007.ece You can't see the whole article unless you subscribe but number one is Totnes, Devon. Another study says Totnes in only the fourth coolest place to live in the UK. Only he fourth. http://www.hebdenbridge.co.uk/news/2013/057.html Yet, Vodfone has NO data coverage here. They have supposed EDGE but it doesn't work and never has. You would have to drive a good distance to download anything on VOD. Is this some kind of sick joke? Comedy. |
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#2342 |
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Vodafone and O2 have got the mast back fully after a week long outage that neither of them seemed to recognize on their status checkers! I reported the fault on O2's checker 3 times (voice, data, SMS) and got others to do so and also posted on the VF forum so if they didn't know about it from their systems, they certainly did from me.
Surely in this day and age the network flashes up a problem like that. |
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Hey, I saw an O2/Vodafone pole mast today, well I've seen it before, but today it was different, the top of it was missing and you could see the antennas and stuff inside it!
Unfortunately I didn't take a pic of its antennas exposed and I couldn't find any google images pictures of similar stuff either . Anyway this is what it looks like normally:https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.75...2!8i6656?hl=en The top fat bit was gone and you could see the antennas and everything. roadworks.org says O2 are gonna do work on it on 14 Feb, maybe to add 4G to it or something but yea I thought it was weird that it was exposed at the top, it wasn't like that before lol. Maybe I'm just overhyping this and you see it a lot but it's never been exposed like that before. Might try and take a pic next time although I'd feel a bit shy cause people would probably think why is he taking a picture of that lol, I'm always afraid of being judged lol. |
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Here is the current Vodafone volte map
http://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/vi...rver&source=sd also planned 4g coverage http://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/vi...rver&source=sd |
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Hey, I saw an O2/Vodafone pole mast today, well I've seen it before, but today it was different, the top of it was missing and you could see the antennas and stuff inside it!
Unfortunately I didn't take a pic of its antennas exposed and I couldn't find any google images pictures of similar stuff either . Anyway this is what it looks like normally:https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.75...2!8i6656?hl=en The top fat bit was gone and you could see the antennas and everything. roadworks.org says O2 are gonna do work on it on 14 Feb, maybe to add 4G to it or something but yea I thought it was weird that it was exposed at the top, it wasn't like that before lol. Maybe I'm just overhyping this and you see it a lot but it's never been exposed like that before. Might try and take a pic next time although I'd feel a bit shy cause people would probably think why is he taking a picture of that lol, I'm always afraid of being judged lol. Nah just take the picture. Get that anorak on and get the picture. Who cares what Luddites think anyway. Get there on the 14th and take a pic of the antenna and the engineers doing the job. Pretty certain that isn't against the law, as long as you don't show their faces....... probably! Oh, and can I have a large Big Mac meal with chocolate milkshake please?
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Here is the current Vodafone volte map
http://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/vi...rver&source=sd also planned 4g coverage http://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/vi...rver&source=sd That's just the current 4G map. Vodafone don't do VoLTE yet. Would be a bit pointless here anyway..... they don't do 4G! |
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Sorry, what???
That's just the current 4G map. Vodafone don't do VoLTE yet. Would be a bit pointless here anyway..... they don't do 4G! |
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Here is the current Vodafone volte map
http://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/vi...rver&source=sd also planned 4g coverage http://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/vi...rver&source=sd |
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Hey, I saw an O2/Vodafone pole mast today, well I've seen it before, but today it was different, the top of it was missing and you could see the antennas and stuff inside it!
Unfortunately I didn't take a pic of its antennas exposed and I couldn't find any google images pictures of similar stuff either . Anyway this is what it looks like normally:https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.75...2!8i6656?hl=en The top fat bit was gone and you could see the antennas and everything. roadworks.org says O2 are gonna do work on it on 14 Feb, maybe to add 4G to it or something but yea I thought it was weird that it was exposed at the top, it wasn't like that before lol. Maybe I'm just overhyping this and you see it a lot but it's never been exposed like that before. Might try and take a pic next time although I'd feel a bit shy cause people would probably think why is he taking a picture of that lol, I'm always afraid of being judged lol. Don't give in to fear, fear leads to hate, hate leads to anger, anger leads to suffering, or so yoda told me in the 80s I had a few people looking at me last week on Aldi car park in Nantwich as I got out my big camera to get some close ups of the not yet live cornerstone mast upgrade with its 3 panels per sector, must be waiting for backhaul as only 3g from it still and speeds were poor. As it's by a the train station though I think they though I was a train spotter, not sure if that's better or worse :-/ There was a street pole I used to drive past on my way to work which had its shroud missing for a few months, it was a Vodafone site which had its mast and cabinets replaced when O2 was added, must have developed some fault as the shroud was removed a few weeks after installation and not put back on for ages. For a fairly new site it will soon be on its 3rd mast when it goes 4g sometime this year maybe... Tad wasteful.. |
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Here's a pic with the shroud missing off the same type of mast it's a Jupiter 811 and cab have its Antennas upgraded to 4G https://www.dropbox.com/s/zymcirl20r...A0000.jpg?dl=0
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