Heinz ketchup, the main ingredient is :
Tomatoes (132g per 100g Ketchup)
How can they get 132g tomatoes in 100g of Ketchup?
Tomatoes (132g per 100g Ketchup)
How can they get 132g tomatoes in 100g of Ketchup?
Explain this : Tomatoes (132g per 100g Ketchup)
The tomatoes have been through a process that produces a concentrate - you'll find the word mentioned on a lot on liquid packs, like juices, squashes, etc.
If you were to try making your own tomato ketchup from fresh tomatoes, you would start off with a pan full of chopped tomatoes and end up with about a quarter, maybe less, of end product.
The concentration process intensifies flavour.
If you were to try making your own tomato ketchup from fresh tomatoes, you would start off with a pan full of chopped tomatoes and end up with about a quarter, maybe less, of end product.
The concentration process intensifies flavour.
Originally Posted by andersonsonson:
“Think I get it now but still confusing”
“Think I get it now but still confusing”
If you simmer something the water in it will evaporate and the solids in the product will become increasingly consolidated. That’s the basis of it.
Personally, I can't be doing with making my own tomato sauce when there are so many good ones on the market at very reasonable prices, but when I make my own pizzas I make a tomato primer for the topping by reducing down a can of chopped tomatoes along with other ingredients, such as: caramelised chopped onion, Worcestershire sauce, balsamic vinegar, and a few other secret ingredients
Try it some time, it's quite a simple process.
Yeah, because it renders down during cooking. It's the same as quarter pounder burgers being advertised as precooked weight - it always shrinks to an extent.
Originally Posted by petral_gal:
“Yeah, because it renders down during cooking. It's the same as quarter pounder burgers being advertised as precooked weight - it always shrinks to an extent.”
“Yeah, because it renders down during cooking. It's the same as quarter pounder burgers being advertised as precooked weight - it always shrinks to an extent.”
"Rendering" is usually used to describe melting the fat on meat, i.e. the fat is rendered out.
Whereas with the tomatoes, it's more about evaporating the water in them, which is quite a lot.
With liquids, especially when using wine, a similar process is used to evaporate the alcohol so that the fruit is left, usually referred to as a: 'reduction'. When meat juices are used, the fat that has been rendered is often skimmed off during the process of reduction.
Which explains why the Aldi tomato ketchup tastes so good.
That has 189g of tomatoes per 100g ketchup whereas Heinz only has 132g.
Confirms what I've always thought, Heinz is overpriced and really not that good.
That has 189g of tomatoes per 100g ketchup whereas Heinz only has 132g.
Confirms what I've always thought, Heinz is overpriced and really not that good.
Originally Posted by Peter_CJ:
“"Rendering" is usually used to describe melting the fat on meat, i.e. the fat is rendered out.
Whereas with the tomatoes, it's more about evaporating the water in them, which is quite a lot.
With liquids, especially when using wine, a similar process is used to evaporate the alcohol so that the fruit is left, usually referred to as a: 'reduction'. When meat juices are used, the fat that has been rendered is often skimmed off during the process of reduction.”
“"Rendering" is usually used to describe melting the fat on meat, i.e. the fat is rendered out.
Whereas with the tomatoes, it's more about evaporating the water in them, which is quite a lot.
With liquids, especially when using wine, a similar process is used to evaporate the alcohol so that the fruit is left, usually referred to as a: 'reduction'. When meat juices are used, the fat that has been rendered is often skimmed off during the process of reduction.”
*pedant alarm* I'm sure everyone understood the meaning i.e that the tomato sauce reduces as the excess moisture boils away.
Originally Posted by tallguy9:
“Which explains why the Aldi tomato ketchup tastes so good.
That has 189g of tomatoes per 100g ketchup whereas Heinz only has 132g.
Confirms what I've always thought, Heinz is overpriced and really not that good.”
“Which explains why the Aldi tomato ketchup tastes so good.
That has 189g of tomatoes per 100g ketchup whereas Heinz only has 132g.
Confirms what I've always thought, Heinz is overpriced and really not that good.”
Depends what you like I suppose. More of something doesn't make it better imo, a case in point being cocoa solids in chocolate. I find that 70% stuff bitter and inedible, and, if eating dark chocolate at all, would prefer the Bournville variety at 39%
Originally Posted by Welsh-lad:
“Depends what you like I suppose. More of something doesn't make it better imo, a case in point being cocoa solids in chocolate. I find that 70% stuff bitter and inedible, and, if eating dark chocolate at all, would prefer the Bournville variety at 39%”
“Depends what you like I suppose. More of something doesn't make it better imo, a case in point being cocoa solids in chocolate. I find that 70% stuff bitter and inedible, and, if eating dark chocolate at all, would prefer the Bournville variety at 39%”
Not a good comparison because it contrast two opposite correlations, i.e. the more cocoa solids there are in chocolate the less sugar and other sweetening ingredients there will be, whereas, reducing down fruits usually makes them sweeter. Tomato ketchup usually has sugar added during blending, so again, not a good comparison.
Some people like tomato ketchup but not tomatoes, which is probably related to the added flavouring and sweetness of ketchup.
Originally Posted by tallguy9:
“Which explains why the Aldi tomato ketchup tastes so good.
That has 189g of tomatoes per 100g ketchup whereas Heinz only has 132g.
Confirms what I've always thought, Heinz is overpriced and really not that good.”
“Which explains why the Aldi tomato ketchup tastes so good.
That has 189g of tomatoes per 100g ketchup whereas Heinz only has 132g.
Confirms what I've always thought, Heinz is overpriced and really not that good.”
Oh forogt to suggest - have you ever tried Wilkin and sons ketchup?
They're the ones who do Tiptree marmalade and suchlike.
I quite like it as a change but is quite sweet. My granny was a kitchen maid in her youth, and in that rôle, used to make her own tomato ketchup - much sharper and more runny than what we'd consider today.
I made it once and wasn't keen!
Originally Posted by Welsh-lad:
“I think it's a perfectly ok comparison.”
“I think it's a perfectly ok comparison.”
Only if you're comparing eating just chocolate with just ketchup, which no one does. Ketchup is added in small proportion to other stuff, so a better comparison is using low-cocoa chocolate chips when cooking a cake. It doesn't taste as nice as high-cocoa chocolate, which is exactly what cooking chocolate is. Cooking chocolate is a legacy from the days before high-cocoa chocolate was so readily available in supermarkets. Grating high-cocoa chocolate over trifle or other whipped cream deserts is also a lot nicer than Cadbury's and similar.
I find that ketchup with lower amounts of real tomato tastes weak and more vinegary, and don't really taste of real tomato at all. Heinz Organic tastes a lot better than their normal one simply because it has a lot more tomato, as do some supermarket own-brands. Morrisons is 157g and has tiny amounts of clove and paprika extract to add an extra element to the flavour. Because it's a lot cheaper than Heinz Organic, I usually get that.
I tried Lidl ketchup once and didn't like it. I'm sure the last time I looked at Aldi's own brands, neither the 'value' or the 'normal' versions had nowhere near 189g, so I'll have to look again. Is the original poster sure it was Aldi's own brand and not a brand you can also buy anywhere, such as Pudliszki which is very high in tomato content.
Originally Posted by Welsh-lad:
“I think it's a perfectly ok comparison.
The poster likes Aldi ketchup because it contains more tomatoes than Heinz.
I prefer Heinz because it contains fewer tomatoes and more of the other ingredients.
I also prefer fewer cocoa solids and more of the other ingredients in chocolate.”
“I think it's a perfectly ok comparison.
The poster likes Aldi ketchup because it contains more tomatoes than Heinz.
I prefer Heinz because it contains fewer tomatoes and more of the other ingredients.
I also prefer fewer cocoa solids and more of the other ingredients in chocolate.”
That sounds reasonable to me, it's whatever tickles your tastebuds
Originally Posted by Isambard Brunel:
“I tried Lidl ketchup once and didn't like it. I'm sure the last time I looked at Aldi's own brands, neither the 'value' or the 'normal' versions had nowhere near 189g, so I'll have to look again. Is the original poster sure it was Aldi's own brand and not a brand you can also buy anywhere, such as Pudliszki which is very high in tomato content.”
“I tried Lidl ketchup once and didn't like it. I'm sure the last time I looked at Aldi's own brands, neither the 'value' or the 'normal' versions had nowhere near 189g, so I'll have to look again. Is the original poster sure it was Aldi's own brand and not a brand you can also buy anywhere, such as Pudliszki which is very high in tomato content.”
No I'm not losing my marbles its definitely Aldi's standard Bramwells range and they've not changed the recipe for a few years
